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1 posted on 09/01/2011 1:36:26 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A gay student killed Larry King?
Was this after his last show??


2 posted on 09/01/2011 1:37:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“The trial was followed closely by gay-rights groups that have fought hard to protect homosexual and transgendered students from campus bullying.”

No, what they want is a free ticket to sexually harass their fellow students without repurcussions.
They want their aggressive non-stop come ons to be protected by law so that their victims cannot fight back or protect themselves.
That’s what they want.


3 posted on 09/01/2011 1:42:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is a sad sequence of events. The gay kid was a freak, a bully, and a genuinely bad kid who enjoyed hurting others and was enabled by his parents and other adults, but none of those flaws merits killing him - if the adults in the school had done their job. The killer was abandoned and failed by every adult in his life, including his parents, teachers, school administrators, and finally the prosecutors. I can’t imagine how American values deteriorated to the point where no one was willing to do the right thing throughout this entire sequence of blunders.


6 posted on 09/01/2011 1:44:45 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m sorry, this case is pretty clear cut. A fourteen year old kid brought a gun to school and shot someone execution style. Does the school share some fault for letting King act the way he did? Yes. But the kid, both of them, knew exactly what they were doing. A guy coming up and flirting with you does not justify killing them.

And the family is disgusting. They knew about abuse going on in the home and just stood by? Isn’t this how serial killers develop?


12 posted on 09/01/2011 1:52:34 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A thorny question would be “why does current American society tolerate aggressive deviant behavior?”


13 posted on 09/01/2011 1:55:59 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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Not that killing was justified..but the little freak asked for a whupping at very least.

Tranny wasn't the victim of bullying but the bullier.

22 posted on 09/01/2011 2:12:54 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The trial was followed closely by gay-rights groups that have fought hard to protect gay and transgendered students from campus bullying.

King was merely the Gaystapo's newest tool, their new Matthew Sheppard. That is a worse crime than the actual murder. They couldn't care less about King.

39 posted on 09/01/2011 2:34:18 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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“The prosecution says it was a calculated murder carried out in part because McInerney was exploring white supremacist ideology and didn’t like homosexuals.”

You know what? I can’t blame the kid for “exploring white supremacist ideology” after he is being sexual harassed by an aggressive homo and the teachers and parents won’t do a damn thing about it. The authority figures failed him, so he turned to trashy riff-raff that offered him a sense of self-empowerment and a way to reassert his masculinity. In a deluded and counterproductive way, to be sure, but I can see why the kid would get disillusioned and drift towards a crowd like that.

I don’t want to sound like I’m excusing murder, but I also can see how he might have, in desperation, not seen any other options. Having been a teenage boy myself, I can imagine how humiliating it must have been to get harassed day in and day out by a flaming homo, in high school, in front of GIRLS and not be able to do anything about it. Teenagers aren’t the best at finding rational solutions to difficult problems like that; they are more likely to lash out and do something foolish. The homo was poking a sleeping bear, and he got mauled.


60 posted on 09/01/2011 3:18:44 PM PDT by Boogieman
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This raises a very interesting future issue.

When a heterosexual man goes to a bar hoping to meet a woman, his overall intention is to use his limited resources of time and money to attract a woman.

If he sees what he *thinks* is a woman, who is in reality a transsexual, either a man just wearing women’s clothing, or a man who eventually wants or is partially through a sex change operation, and if that transsexual is a homosexual—if that transsexual *does not* identify themselves as a male, they are committing an act that could be called “fraud”.

Fraud exists when someone uses false pretenses to obtain money or other consideration, including sex, from another person. It is not just a “white lie”, or “everybody lies about sex” situation, but an act of *theft*.

And I will add, even if a man has been fully transformed into having what appears to be a female body, they will be sterile, no longer able to reproduce, which is the entire purpose of marriage, NOT JUST SEX.

So, in a situation like this, which is common, of attempted *theft*, the response of the victim needs to be considered.

If you were at a bar, and a pickpocket took your wallet, and you caught them doing it, what would be the limits to the amount of violence you could reasonably use to detain them for the police?

But there is a problem there, as *right now*, there is no criminal recognition of transsexual fraud, so there is no punishment for someone who commits such an act, *unless* their victim takes it upon themselves to punish them.

This creates an interesting situation.

If a heterosexual man goes to a bar to meet women, and instead meets up with a transsexual who *identifies* himself as a transsexual, then that heterosexual man has absolutely no right to physically assault that transsexual. They have lost neither time nor money, so should just move on.

However, if a heterosexual man meets with a transsexual who pretends to be a woman, lying to him for the purposes of obtaining consideration, or even some type of sex, and the heterosexual man at some point realizes that they have been deceived, it should not be any surprise that he gets violent with the imposter.

It is *not* a “hate crime”, caused by “homophobia”, it is a “reaction to crime, crime”. He has attacked a thief who has tried to steal from him.

From this viewpoint, anything in his background that would contribute to a violent response on his part is legitimate as mitigating factors, or reasons why he did not “just walk away”. Someone may just as well choose to “just walk away” from an attempted pickpocket. But many will not.


62 posted on 09/01/2011 3:21:28 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Sounds as though the jury is hearing about the dark hideous underbelly of "gay rights". The kid snapped after being tormented by the mentally ill sex pervert who was lionized and pampered by the school administration. Did the killer do the right thing? No. But people more easily do the wrong thing - especially 14 yr old kids - when the adults around them do evil. The kid was basically abused by the mentally ill sex pervert and every single adult in that school system who allowed it.

81 posted on 09/01/2011 3:49:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Some info from Wiki for those of us not familiar with the case:

The school could not legally stop King from dressing as such because of a California hate crime law that prevents gender discrimination, although teachers at the school thought that his clothing was clearly in violation of school code, which prevents students from wearing clothing considered distracting.[2] The school issued a formal notice to every teacher on January 29, 2008 via email. Written by eighth-grade assistant principal Sue Parsons, it read, in part:

We have a student on campus who has chosen to express his sexuality by wearing make-up. It is his right to do so. Some kids are finding it amusing, others are bothered by it. As long as it does not cause classroom disruptions he is within his rights. We are asking that you talk to your students about being civil and non-judgmental. They don’t have to like it but they need to give him his space. We are also asking you to watch for possible problems. If you wish to talk further about it please see me or Joy Epstein.[2]

Joy Epstein was one of the school’s assistant principals, and also openly lesbian...

...Brandon David McInerney was born on January 24, 1994 in Ventura, California. His mother Kendra had a criminal history and was addicted to methamphetamine.[2][5] In 1993, Kendra accused her husband William of shooting her in the arm with a .45-caliber pistol.[2] In another incident, William McInerney choked his wife almost to unconsciousness after she accused him of stealing ADHD medication from her older son...

...In August 2008, King’s family filed a claim against E.O. Green Junior High School at Ventura County Superior Court, alleging that the school’s allowing King to wear makeup and feminine clothing was a factor leading to his death.[21] According to the California Attorney General’s Office, however, the school could not legally have stopped King from wearing girls’ clothes because state law prevents gender discrimination.[2]

According to a Newsweek article published on July 19, 2008, some teachers at E.O. Green also allege that assistant principal Joy Epstein was “encouraging King’s flamboyance to help further an ‘agenda’”.[2]...

...Another teacher testified that pupils had told her King would seek them out and follow them into the bathroom, behavior she considered to be sexual harassment. She was told by Epstein the school could do nothing about the behavior.[47]...

...Dawn Boldrin, an English teacher had testified and said she counseled King and told him he should not wear attention getting clothing if he did not want to receive negative attention. However, she gave the teen, who was suffering from a sexual identity issue, a strapless, green, chiffon gown. She meant for him to wear it outside of school. ...”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.O._Green_School_shooting

I don’t know the legal implications, but I don’t see convicting the kid AS AN ADULT. I also don’t see it in any way as a hate crime. It look like murder committed by a kid with a horrible background.

It also looks like a California ‘freaks on parade’ day...what a cesspool of evil and loathsome values being accepted by California, on both sides. Both kids were hung twisting in the winds of adult moral confusion. Kids need guidelines, and all the adults and the state were busy using them for a political agenda of tolerating evil.

See my tagline - this is a sign America (and California) has gone down the toilet. In the America I grew up in, lots of adults would have taken both of these kids away from their morally bankrupt parents and sent them somewhere to grow up. These kids were treated (abused) like pit bulls owned by drug dealers. It is sickening any of this could happen, let alone happen with full support from the government!


93 posted on 09/01/2011 4:20:23 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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From another article:

“The prosecution in closing arguments last week said the jury should find McInerney guilty of first-degree murder...First-degree murder with a gun enhancement carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 50 years in prison.

The defense countered that McInerney was in a dissociative state when he killed King and was not completely aware of what he was doing...should be found guilty only of voluntary manslaughter and use of a firearm, which carries a discretionary sentence as low as 14 years.”

http://www.vcstar.com/news/2011/aug/29/mcinerney-jury-adjourns-for-day-without-verdict/

I agree with a murder charge, but not a minimum sentence of 50 years in prison for a 14 year old with a horrible home who may well have been pressured sexually by the victim. I suspect the jury was reacting to the required punishment, rather than the facts of the case.

Both sides argued for a conviction, but the jury couldn’t agree to send the kid to prison for 50 years minimum!


96 posted on 09/01/2011 4:24:36 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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There are 116 posts. I haven't read them yet. I am willing to bet, though, that not even ONE will address the following:

Both boys were under government **compulsion** to be in each other’s company in the COMPULSORY government school! Government compulsion is backed by armed police threat, folks!

If children are treated like state prisoners why are we surprised that they behave like state prisoners????

And...Our Founding Father put FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY in our First Amendment and likely every state constitution reaffirms this basic human right. Yet....**ALL** government schools every single day TRASH this First Amendment human right to FREELY ASSEMBLE of the students and indirectly that of the parents.

ALL ( Yes, **every**) government schools in this nation are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination!!!! They should be completely abolished. The sooner the better!

I hold every government teacher in contempt. There are NO good government teachers. If teachers didn't establish, uphold, and cooperate with this human rights abomination, they couldn't exist. ( Yeah! I do mean **all** government teachers. None are “good”. They are either stupid, evil or both.)

118 posted on 09/01/2011 5:27:20 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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Welcome to the other side of the leftist coin on the road to utopia. Unintended yet unavoidable NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES

Plain and simple, when injustice is promoted and called 'good' it creates more injustice. Promoting and protecting a pervert and perversion was the first error and we see now the results of such a rotten tree, rotten fruit.

Blame the kids? No, neither, they were/are but pawns. Blame the sick morally devoid leftists that promote this TRASH, we reap what they sow.

132 posted on 09/01/2011 7:07:08 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The boy is guilty.

Time served.

NEXT!


150 posted on 09/02/2011 8:02:29 AM PDT by Mashood
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