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Perry tells NH no to border fence
Yahoo ^ | 9/3/11 | Steve Peoples - ap

Posted on 09/03/2011 1:35:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry says he opposes a fence along the U.S. border with Mexico.

Speaking to hundreds of New Hampshire voters at a private reception Saturday afternoon, the Texas governor says a fence would be ineffective and take too long to build.

The comments, which produced one angry shout, expose a rift with some conservative voters over Perry's immigration record. Tea party activists in Texas have been particularly upset by his steady opposition to the fence. He also signed a law giving illegal immigrants in-state tuition for Texas universities.

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To: NormsRevenge

Looks like ole Ricardo Perrito is keeping his options open for a potential Obama/Perry 2012 ticket...


241 posted on 09/03/2011 3:32:00 PM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'....Rumor has it)
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To: Jedidah

You’re right, I’d let highly skilled workers in. But proponents of “guest worker” programs are generally talking about Mexicans with 8th grade educations.


242 posted on 09/03/2011 3:32:09 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: NormsRevenge

Protecting the states from invasion is one of the primary duties of the office.

If he won’t keep his oath to protect the life, liberty and property of the American people, he’s disqualified himself right out of the gate.


243 posted on 09/03/2011 3:32:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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To: omega4179

“The Fix is in, its either open borders with Perry or open borders with Hussein.”

Since that issue is a wash, look at the rest of the issues facing us this election. I ask you to vote accordingly.


244 posted on 09/03/2011 3:33:39 PM PDT by Grunthor (Did she announce yet? No? Whatever.)
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To: JayGalt

If we do not exit those who broke in we will lose this country.There is no allegiance through amnesty. If America wants to remain in control we will have to start creating a respectable labor pool from within.
A WELL-DESIGNED fence will slow it down and give operational control if guards are put there.


245 posted on 09/03/2011 3:33:54 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: 9YearLurker
No need for a guest worker anything with 18% effective unemployment.

When you round up 500 Americans willing to pick crops, send me their names and I'll get them a contract.

WENATCHEE, Wash. - A crackdown on illegal immigration could leave cherry growers without enough pickers, as the crop ripens in a few weeks. The manager of the Washington Growers Clearinghouse in Wenatchee, Kirk Mayer, says if growers can't harvest the crop, they risk losing their business. The highly perishable cherries are labor intensive. Mayer says they require six pickers per acre, compared to one picker per acre for apples. A labor shortage was already expected this season. Some growers lost part of their crop last year for lack of pickers.

246 posted on 09/03/2011 3:34:44 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: 9YearLurker
No need for a guest worker anything with 18% effective unemployment.

When you round up 500 Americans willing to pick crops, send me their names and I'll get them a contract.

WENATCHEE, Wash. - A crackdown on illegal immigration could leave cherry growers without enough pickers, as the crop ripens in a few weeks. The manager of the Washington Growers Clearinghouse in Wenatchee, Kirk Mayer, says if growers can't harvest the crop, they risk losing their business. The highly perishable cherries are labor intensive. Mayer says they require six pickers per acre, compared to one picker per acre for apples. A labor shortage was already expected this season. Some growers lost part of their crop last year for lack of pickers.

247 posted on 09/03/2011 3:34:44 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: central_va

That is because NH believes in ‘Live free off of pork or die”

first in nation guarantees much porko...


248 posted on 09/03/2011 3:35:52 PM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'....Rumor has it)
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To: Liberty Valance

Agree with your solutions.


249 posted on 09/03/2011 3:36:28 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: 9YearLurker
I’d let highly skilled workers in.

As a highly skilled worker thanks for the stab in the back.

250 posted on 09/03/2011 3:36:52 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Polybius
look at those illegal aliens in the video jumping over Border Fence like jack-rabbits

You won't find many videos of Palestinians jumping over the Israeli border fence like jack-rabbits.

If you want to get rid of illegals, start hitting illegal EMPLOYERS hard.

You've got a point there. Some illegals will simply go to a underground cash-only lifestyle, but you're right, many will leave.

But the Dem's won't go for tougher laws because most illegals are future Dem voters.

And the Rep's, well they're mainly spineless kick-the-can-down-the-road types.

251 posted on 09/03/2011 3:37:26 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Hey, I did a lot of guard duty on the AMERICAN SECTOR ~ in West Germany. NOBODY got across that border unless they had a steam roller.

After every big storm the GDR would go out there and roll over the mines and blow them up. Then they'd put in new mines.

There was a simple chicken wire fence along most of the sector I was on ~ ON OUR SIDE. It was there as a safety device. You didn't want to get any closer to the border than that chicken wire fence because there were MINES on the other side, and if one went off you could get injured. Plus, sometimes those mountain storms were bad enough that the mines washed out of the zone ended up on our side. There were some "divots" where they'd run the fence back further up the hill so we'd know the area beyond wasn't safe even though it was well within the American zone.

The German border patrol had nominal command over us concerning where we would go ~ many times we'd walk along with them and they'd discuss the mine fields, the loose mines, and that fence.

While there a VOPO tried to escape in the zone up near Hof. He ran across the minefield and missed all the big ones, but he hit a couple of little poppers ~ then one of his guys shot him (for the reward), and the Russians took a couple of days to retrieve him (with a steam roller).

I don't care who you were ~ our guys, their guys, border patrol for GDR or West Germany, or the Russians, or just tourists, spies and others who ended up around there, YOU WERE VERY CAREFUL.

Mines have no conscience and are unrelentingly cruel.

I've seen it. Done it. Been There. A mine field would work quite well. They don't even have all that expensive a maintenance cost ~ and you can put them in the mountains ~ 'cause I've done duty in the mountains with a minefield in front of me.

They are just nasty as all get out and send a clear message ~ get a tourist visa and take the plane to Phoenix!

Comprehensive immigration reform requires a fence, maybe a mine field or two, AND some serious evaluation of visa holders as they enter at our airports. Right now we depend on the consulates abroad to control the visas ~ and they clearly do a poor job. 40% of our illegals are people who entered legally and overstayed! A little interrogation at the airport as they come into the country would help control that. We could use computer systems to back us up on that ~ match faces, pull up criminal records, medical records, all that stuff ~ see what's up.

252 posted on 09/03/2011 3:37:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

I am not a clown. That is a liberal trick attacking the person instead of the position. It shouldn’t fly here on Free Republic. I am as conservative as they come but I am also pragmatic. Did you read the post about the length of the border and the terrain. What part of the recently discovered runway of tunnels did you miss. Don’t pour money and resources into something that won’t work, find a plan that has a likelihood of success by exploiting what we know about human nature. People will do anything to get a better life for their families. They are willing to die by the scores, face rape along the way by their coyotes and the possibility of being exploited as sex slaves. The fence doesn’t exist that can stop people from getting in with that level of desperation. I think people that go on about fences are looking for the easy solution, a straightforward response that will stop the problem, but it is the path to hell, money will be wasted, people will die, contractors will bilk the Gov’t and illegals will flood the country.
We need to recognize that there are some jobs like picking berries that Americans are not willing to do in the numbers we need. So we need visas for workers, tied to actual job requests filtered through state and local government. If there are Americans who want those jobs visas will not be requested by the companies. If we get our country back on track there will be jobs again that do not require us to become migrant workers. Our quotas for legal immigration are politically skewed and invite in people that do not have skills we need. That practice should be addressed. We need to enforce the laws on the books and stop supporting people who are here illegally. It is at the point that they are demanding their rights when they have none.


253 posted on 09/03/2011 3:38:25 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Polybius

That’s a problem, isn’t it?

We have a massive underclass who could indeed pick crops but won’t. Will not. Too hard.

And they’re not Mexican.


254 posted on 09/03/2011 3:38:36 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Polybius
When you round up 500 Americans willing to pick crops, send me their names and I'll get them a contract.

Gonna pay 'em fifty bucks an hour to pick lettuce? Is that you, Senator McCain?

255 posted on 09/03/2011 3:38:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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To: Polybius

If other cherry growers aren’t paying below market wages, there’s no problem with paying what the American labor market demands. And that’s not much in this economy. Pay what the legal labor market demands!


256 posted on 09/03/2011 3:39:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: CharlesWayneCT

If you say so. When we needed him to, in a clutch, support us, he was not 100% for us. “Oh, I think it’s great for the AZ third world sewer (here, have an Amicus bone!), but not for swell civilized us!” Therefore, your guy has to convince me why the law is bad for TX if it’s so wonderful for AZ. And he has a long road to claw back from. If he supports the law in AZ, but not in TX, then I fear for how this guy would be a CEO to the whole nation.

Don’t worry. He won’t try. It’s ridiculous. Nowhere else to go anyway, right? A no vote for Perry is a whole vote for Obama, right?


257 posted on 09/03/2011 3:39:52 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I like both Perry and Palin, and will vote for whichever of them wins.)
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To: central_va

If you’re highly skilled you can compete in the market.

After 45 years of ‘lottery’ immigration and all the illegal immigration, we need to improve our ratio of smart, skilled workers—and there is plenty of global demand for their product.


258 posted on 09/03/2011 3:41:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: JayGalt

Whatever. I’ve heard it all before (Status Quo)

I’m done listening to it.


259 posted on 09/03/2011 3:41:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Winstons Julia
I think we need dye mines on the border.Just think you step on or otherwise activate one of these little babies and you’re immediately turned purple,blue or whatever the color of the month is even dyes that are only visible to special lighting.When you are spotted (which should be relatively easy) you could then be asked for your papers.A dye zone would be set up along the border with warnings informing everyone what is going to happen if you enter the “ no discrimination zone”
260 posted on 09/03/2011 3:42:39 PM PDT by johnny reb (I Have Not Yet Begun To Tea Party!)
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