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Poll: Republicans On Verge Of Shocking NYC Upset
Hotline On Call ^ | September 9, 2011 | Steven Shepard and Jessica Taylor

Posted on 09/09/2011 7:10:13 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican

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To: FreeReign

Those are Hassidic neighborhoods. Less-conspicuous Orthodox Jews of other persuasions are indeed abundantly represented in CD9. Weprin, for example, is said to be Modern Orthodox and wears a kippah.

The Brooklyn part of the district actually voted for McCain!


81 posted on 09/09/2011 3:38:37 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Michael Barone described Schauer as “the Flying Dutchman of New York politics.” He would move to run in a new district practically every decade, and represented districts based in the Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn through the years.


82 posted on 09/09/2011 3:58:21 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: justiceseeker93; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

Ferraro’s CD went a bit further south than NW Queens (Astoria et al), didn’t it? The great Serphin Maltese almost won the CD when she vacated it in 1984, and he later served as a state senator in a district that included quite a bit of the Queens portion of the current NY-09.


83 posted on 09/09/2011 4:00:27 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: BlackElk

The woman whose husband was shot on the subway (the black gunman waited until the train crossed into Nassau County so that it wouldn’t count as a murder in David Dinkins’s NYC) is Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy, but she was first elected in the NY-04 (Western Nassau, including Garden Grove and Hempstead villages) in 1998, defeating a first-year Republican whose name eludes me. LeBoutillier was a freshman when he lost his reelection bid to Congressman Mzarek (sp?) in 1982 (he had won in the NY-06 in 1980, but ran in the NY-03 in 1982 (which I believe included a lot more of Nassau than his 1980 CD took in).


84 posted on 09/09/2011 4:12:23 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

¿Uh...what are you saying?

¡Help!


85 posted on 09/09/2011 4:19:46 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: ken5050

only Conservative party ran..

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008/elections/ny/house/1134/


86 posted on 09/09/2011 4:23:47 PM PDT by wardaddy (Eric Clapton was never God, Dick Cheney is....get his book...he should have been President)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

yes..only a CP guy...the site I researched the percentages did not clarify

the GOP guy got 40% last time


87 posted on 09/09/2011 4:24:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (Eric Clapton was never God, Dick Cheney is....get his book...he should have been President)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Well it was mostly the westernmost part when first elected in ‘78 (the 8th (Ben Rosenthal) and 10th (Mario Biaggi) also took slivers of that area, but more central and northern of it), but for her 3rd and last term, it was mostly just the entirety of the NW part of Queens. I had to look at the large atlas and don’t have a smaller-scale pic (Barone’s Almanac also doesn’t have a map of the NYC district lines at that time for some odd reason).


88 posted on 09/09/2011 4:27:02 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

But...but...the MSM told me that America was just as mad at Republicans as Democrats. They assured me that Congress’s 11 percent approval rating was directed at Republicans.


89 posted on 09/09/2011 4:31:51 PM PDT by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: jjotto; BillyBoy

It is by no means “majority” Romanist, even if we include the Hispanic Democrats in the sh-thole that is Ozone Park.


90 posted on 09/09/2011 4:32:28 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

McCarthy beat Daniel Frisa in ‘96. I find it astonishing she is still polluting Congress 15 years later.

That was Bob Mrazek who beat LeBoutillier in 1982. He ran in fellow freshman GOPer Greg Carman’s seat when their districts were combined. Unfortunately, Carman would’ve been the better candidate and probably would’ve defeated Mrazek (although he got a better deal, a Federal Judgeship) had he chosen not to retire.


91 posted on 09/09/2011 4:35:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Gee whiz, if you think trying to trace the ancestry of NY districts is a pain in the ass, Massachusetts is even worse (well, maybe not).


92 posted on 09/09/2011 4:37:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well done, Fieldmarshal! :)


93 posted on 09/09/2011 4:51:42 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; All
That's quite a bit of complex historical info you presented there, fieldmarshal. Where did you get this historical congressional atlas going all the way back in time? I've never seen one before in any library I've visited.

Now, can you please settle this little uncertainty: Did Geraldine Ferraro's Ninth District, either as laid out in 1978 and 1980, or as it was in 1982, ever contain any territory that's in the current NY-9? (If so, my guess is that the overlap would be minuscule.)

BTW, you mentioned some names there that I was aware of and some that I wasn't. FWIW, I once had an opportunity to meet with the late GOP congressman Francis Dorn's son, and knew that Dorn was a Brooklyn GOP congressman during the Eisenhower presidency. I also knew of Sy Halprin as a Republican from Queens who was in Congress for quite a long time.

Your history also demonstrates that, contrary to my previous thinking, congressional redistricting didn't necessarily occur on the heels of every federal census prior to 1960. What made redistricting mandatory after every census since was the SCOTUS' "one man, one vote" ruling in the very early 1960s.

Of course, in accordance with your history, there were also many other redistrictings in New York (and likely many other states) that were precipitated by other causes. That undoubtedly is an interesting subject in and of itself.

94 posted on 09/09/2011 5:14:19 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
"That's quite a bit of complex historical info you presented there, fieldmarshal. Where did you get this historical congressional atlas going all the way back in time? I've never seen one before in any library I've visited."

It should be in your local library or university (if you're near a large city), but I happen to own a copy, which isn't cheap. It's The Historical Atlas of Political Parties in the United States Congress, 1789-1989 by Prof. Kenneth C. Martis. It's a huge "coffee table" book.

"Now, can you please settle this little uncertainty: Did Geraldine Ferraro's Ninth District, either as laid out in 1978 and 1980, or as it was in 1982, ever contain any territory that's in the current NY-9? (If so, my guess is that the overlap would be minuscule.)"

Having scrutinized the Atlas (and Barone's Almanac of the time wasn't helpful because of a lack of maps for the NYC districts), it appears that if there was some overlap, it would've been indeed miniscule (of the current "T" shape extending up into central Queens, it would've only been the westernmost part of the tip-top of that "T", if even that). The 9th of the time (1970s-93) doesn't much resemble its current successor, the 7th. It has been thrust liberally into the East Bronx (whereas before, it wasn't in the Bronx in the modern era, IIRC) and the westernmost portions of the old Queens district have been attached to Maloney's 14th, Rangel's 15th and apparently even a sliver of Serrano's 16th and Velazquez's 12th. Indeed, the current 7th only basically contains the easternmost parts of Ferraro's old seat.

95 posted on 09/09/2011 5:42:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: justiceseeker93
Ferraro's district in the 70s and 80s was northwest Queens. Demographically at the time it was predominantly white, ethnic, Catholic, middle and working class, with a larger percentage of homeowners than NYC as a whole. It was sometimes referred to as "Archie Bunker's district." It would seem as if Ferraro's politics were considerably to the left of her constituents. I believe Ferraro was in Congress for (only) four terms, and resigned when she ran for VP with Mondale in 1984 or shortly thereafter.

I believe Mondale/Ferraro failed to carry Ferraro's own CD 9 against Reagan/Bush.

96 posted on 09/09/2011 6:05:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: AuH2ORepublican

That would be a nice stick in the eye.

thanks for the ping!


97 posted on 09/09/2011 7:22:18 PM PDT by bitt ( Obama is so unpopular now that the Kenyans say he was definitely born in Hawaii)
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To: FreeReign
"I believe Mondale/Ferraro failed to carry Ferraro's own CD 9 against Reagan/Bush."

Absolutely correct. Reagan won the district with 57% to Mondale's 43%.

98 posted on 09/09/2011 7:48:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thanks for the correction. Did McCarthy defeat a Congressman named Dan Frisa (sp.?)


99 posted on 09/09/2011 8:26:35 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: BillyBoy

There is certainly that similarity to IL-5 and Rostenkowski but at least Rostenkowski was crippled by felony indictments and/or convictions whereas Weprin is a dope and a dupe seeking to replace Anthony The Flash Weiner.


100 posted on 09/09/2011 8:40:42 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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