Ungland...
Posted on 09/18/2011 7:56:17 AM PDT by george76
Good.
You are probably correct that no charges will be filed.
But, I do not want to live under a system where I am guilty until proven innocent....which is what this is.
In Britain, you only have the right to self-defense after the state approves it.....meaning you do not have a right, but a privilege.
Because, for better or for worse, that is the procedure. Police have to establish that the death was not premeditated and the homeowner acted in self-defence.
Once that is established, and it will be establish, he’ll be released.
One thing to note is that arrest is a different thing in the UK to the US. There are no arrest records over here. Nothing permanent will go against this man’s name for being arrested and then released. He is also not in ‘jail’, he will be in an individual cell in the police station and will no doubt be released on bail within a few hours.
I don’t defend the UK approach to self-defense or criminal justice AT ALL.
But this “arrest” is routine police procedure after a violent death and does not have the same implication as an arrest in the US.
You misunderstand the term ‘guilty until proven innocent’. If this should go to court, which it won’t, the the onus would be on the prosecution to prove his guilt, rather than the defendant to prove his innocence.
As it is, the man has been arrested on ‘suspicion of murder’. He is not guilty of anything yet.
GUY DESERVES A MEDAL!
And at times it looks like a new kind of ‘police state’ with the police acting unwittingly as enablers of the criminals, who as we know, all have only the best of intentions in breaking into people’s homes. It’s even harder for a victim to come out smelling like a rose when
it’s discovered that the home invaders weren’t armed or not
provably armed.But another poster was probably correct in assuming that the victim will (eventually) be sent on his way. It’s the eventually part that is so vexing: a long, drawn-out process has to be set in motion, where at every point the victim has to be reminded of the “complexities” of the law, and how close he might come to being judged “guilty” in some way.
Knives don’t kill people . . .
This idiot to be somehwere in idiot Europe...
Correction-
This had to be somewhere in idiot Europe...
Want to buy edit button >_<;
Ungland...
If he were my neighbor, the man just saved my home from robbery and possibly the murder of my immediate family.
He deserves a medal and a reward not jail until bail!
In Texas the police would have shook his hand and told him to buy a gun so he could have taken both of vermin out instead of just one.
The Queen’s Gestapo will be going from house to house demanding that subjects turn in their knives.
It’s England! It’s the way things work there. Bad guy becomes the victim and the victim becomes the bad guy.
Not in the UK.
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