Posted on 09/19/2011 8:42:26 AM PDT by DRey
The battle for the Republican presidential nomination is just heating up. But the choice of running mate is as good as settled, at least if the Beltway buzz is to be believed.
Many party insiders feel that the attractions of Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) for the second spot on the ticket are irresistible.
“Right now, he is head and shouders above everybody else,” Florida-based GOP strategist Rick Wilson told The Hill. (Wilson supported Rubio during his 2010 Senate bid, but did not work for the campaign.)
Garlands have been hurled Rubio’s way with conspicuous frequency in the past few weeks.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Is he a natural born citizen? Not that that seems to matter any more...
All of you who care about what "party insiders" feel, raise your hand !
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Uh, yeah, I thought so.
Me, neither.
Lol. I knew someone would say that. Are you serious? If you listen to the birthers, no, he’s not a natural born citizen. If you listen to the Constitution, the Heritage Society, and precedence, yes, he’s a natural born citizen because he was born in this country and not naturalized. Naturalized citizens can be senators, but not presidents. A president must be born here. The Constitution says nothing about a natural-born citizen having to have parents that were also citizens at the time of the child’s birth. Obviously the GOP wouldn’t be on fire with anticipation for Rubio as VP if he wasn’t eligible.
Rubio may well be the next Reagan. It’s just that for now, the electorate is still recovering from the perfect, bright and shiny, perfectly spoken, flawless, never-said-or-done-anything-wrong candidate, and he is sitting in the Oval Office. Rubio is a gift. Rubio is too perfect. He is also a protege of the Bushes. If Rubio is smart, he won’t want to be under the wing of the next unproven Republican president, to serve as his VP. Rubio can win in his own right and will want to carve out his own message and be president, because his message, ability and attraction is so far superior to anyone else’s. If things stay with him as they are now, he wins in a walk...eventually.
That’s actually what he said last year — he didn’t want to be VP.
I don’t think YOU are listening to precedence.
NBC are persons born on the soil of two citizen parents.
By your definition, any Mexican women can sneak across the border in the last minutes of pregnancy having never set foot in the United States and not knowing a single word of english and most importantly not owing ANY allegience to the United States, have her baby and THAT baby is elidgible to be President of the United States!
Ya right. I don’t think that’s what the founders intended when the contitutional requirment was written.
See what I mean? Birthers. That’s their story and they’re sticking to it.
I thought I read a definitive article here a while back that said Rubio could not qualify for POTUS.
I hope your explanation is correct. I love everything about him.
You got that right but I must confess, what I did raise is a middle digit on one hand. Sorry.......:)
I didn’t write the Constitution. Read the article. No one but the birther — and fringe birthers at that — are concerned he’s not a natural born citizen. There are two kinds of citizens in this country: natural born and naturalized. All that garbage about parents citizenship at the moment of birth is nonsense. And three, two, one, here they come to flame away!
McCain, for example, is a natural born citizen.
He would be a natural born citizen according to Vattel - who said that a child born of a soldier overseas was deemed born in country for such purposes.
He would be a natural born citizen according to the first Naturalization act of 1780 that held that the children born to a US citizen father born overseas were natural born citizens.
He would be a natural born citizen according to current US law and the US Constitution - which only has two subdivisions of US citizens based upon the way citizenship was acquired - either you were born a citizen and are thus natural born - or one had to be “naturalized”.
Not a big quibble, but being born here is not the requirement, being born a US citizen is.
Rubio was born a US citizen. He is not a naturalized citizen. Thus he is eligible for the Presidency or the Vice Presidency - all birther lunacy to the contrary aside.
I guess symantics are important in this type of argument. Thx.
The reason the Constitution stipulates natural-born as opposed to native-born(which Rubio is) is because the founders did not want any first generation Americans who may have had parents fresh off the boat from England filling their young thoughts with the greatness of England and subsequently growing up to become to become a POTUS with divided allegiances. They wanted second generation Americans who grew up with an unencumbered love for America. Yeah, natural born means having parents who were born here, too.
That’s not even the birther argument! Even birthers agree he would be “natural born” if his parents had been naturalized before his birth.
Any article can sound definitive when it only presents one side of a legal argument.
The truth is that there clearly is a lot of disagreement on this topic, particularly on FR, and neither side gives ground on this. However, it is accurate to say that the view that Rubio would not be qualified for President is a minority view overall among legal scholars, no matter how many adherents the argument has FR, and regardless of which side may be correct in an objective sense.
I personally think he's qualified, but I'm tired of arguing it here.
Wasn’t trying to be difficult but dealing with who we are dealing with, accuracy and consistency is essential. Thanks for your otherwise excellent post! :)
Natural born??
Aliens and mutants not eligible?
The constitution requires the president to be a “Natural Born Citizen” and the 12th amendment requires the vice president to meet the same exact requirements.
“Natural Born Citizen” meaning was known to the founders and everyone else at the time, just like we all knew what the meaning of “is” was until Bill Clinton came along. The supreme court has addressed this issue in several opinions and the meaning is clear. Born in the United States to two United States citizens. There is so much info on this here at FR that there is no excuse for you to be so misinformed.
U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 1
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
U.S. Constitution - Amendment 12
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Take it up with the Supreme Court after Perry/Rubio are elected. The case has been proven otherwise on FR.
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