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Rick Perry leads Mitt Romney in South Carolina
Politico ^ | Sept 20, 2011 | Juana Summers

Posted on 09/20/2011 6:46:45 AM PDT by Clairity

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a slim lead on former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the latest Winthrop Poll of South Carolina voters.

The poll, taken last week, shows Perry with 29.8 percent support from Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, to Romney's 26.6 percent. No other candidate is in the double digits.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: perry; perry2012; romney; sc2012
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To: RobaWho
All this would happen in year one, and then she’d get serious.

Considering that most Presidents get 1 to 3 items on their agenda enacted, your ideas should be a book......call it Dreams of My Candidate

41 posted on 09/20/2011 8:04:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: RobaWho

Your list depends on actions by Congress.

Other than RINOs Romney and Huntsman, name one GOP presidential candidate who would veto any of the items you listed if Congress passed such legislation.

That’s the problem with Palinphilia. The Tea Party message no longer needs her as the messenger because most of the GOP candidates would have the same agenda if elected and backed by a Republican-controlled Congress.


42 posted on 09/20/2011 8:04:17 AM PDT by peyton randolph (B. Hussein Obama solved Bush's "problem" of a AAA credit rating)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I agree with your list--for the most part--but Ford was never close to being as liberal as Clinton.
A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have...."
- Gerald R. Ford
Ford was a right-of-center moderate and made no pretensions otherwise, but he was never a liberal and he was probable more conservative than Nixon.

Bill Clinton is, was and always has been a liberal. The only difference between him and Obama is that he was smart enough to see when he had been out maneuvered and to co-opt the Republican agenda when it was politically advantageous.
43 posted on 09/20/2011 8:06:33 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: shield

You must have misread something, because I never said I’d stay home, and luckily I won’t need to as I’ve been working tirelessly on behalf of Gov. Palin. When she get’s in, my prayer and belief is your only option will be Obama or Palin. Palin was responsible for McCain’s 47% vote share. If not for her, McCain would have maybe received 40%. So, in 2012, Our voter “floor” is 47% - now begin to ADD all the Dems, liberals, youth, Jews, independents, women that have flocked away from Obama (See NY-9), and subtract all the youth, blacks, Dems, Women, Indies, illegals, hispanics and Linerals that simply will not show up to vote for Obama - 2012 is “Game over” for Obama - IF Conservatives will act like Conservatives, be Actual Conservatives and Nominate an Actual Conservative (see NY-9), America will have a chance to be saved.


44 posted on 09/20/2011 8:09:31 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: Artemis Webb

If one receives a massive “mandate” from the voters, and your party controls 60 or more Senate seats, picks up 30 or 40 additional house seats and you win the Presidency in 2012 with a 65% to 35%, or 60% to 40% margin, I’d call that a HUGE MANDATE, wouldn’t you? Howe many people would have said Reagan could cut federal taxes from 78% to 28%?


45 posted on 09/20/2011 8:14:41 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: Clairity
It is indeed going to be Perry or Romney, and it isn't going to be Romney. I have a better chance of winning SC than Romney does and if he can't compete in SC, he can't win the nomination. Every election cycle it's the same. Polls with ridiculous results claim an absurd amount of attention. People believe that McCain or Romney or some other progressive can win in SC. The media pumps a horse race where none exists. In the end, everyone who relies on the legacy media for information is taken aback when something utterly predictable happens.

Perry will win Iowa and SC comfortably. NH will be close. Perry will be the presumptive nominee before FL votes. Romney's toast and, for better or for worse, we're stuck with Perry.

Palin entering the race wouldn't change anything substantial. She would probably accelerate Romney's inevitable collapse. He would quickly be running third in a three person race and his moderate support would gravitate to Perry as the only realistic alternative to Palin.

Fair or not, most Republicans of all stripes see Palin as a high risk nominee who doesn't offer enough rewards to justify the risks. Perry would beat her handily in IA and SC. With Palin in the race Mitt probably couldn't even win NH. If Perry wins IA and NH, he'll be the de facto nominee before any other votes are counted.

Any way I game this out, barring some dramatic event like a sexting scandal a la Weiner, Perry wins. That's disappointing for those of us who had our hearts set on someone better qualified to nullify Obama and set our ailing nation right. But sensible people don't ignore reality just because it's disappointing. “Fed Up!” offers us some hope that Perry will be equal to the task that's waiting for him at the far end of the campaign. Conservatives should read it and keep hope alive.

The alternative is waiting for a Palin announcement like cultists on a rooftop watching for the end of the world. Palin probably isn't running and even if she is it won't change the outcome. The cards are dealt. There's not much percentage in pining for a better hand. We've got to play the hand we've got. Folding isn't an option.

46 posted on 09/20/2011 8:14:54 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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To: RobaWho
You have NO clue what the YELL LEADERS of Texas A & M especially when Perry was there are like. They are real men...not some pansy arse men who came out of other colleges in his day.

The Al Gore bs was just that bs...it has been proven that he never was chair for him in Texas NEVER. IF there is anything negative you can find even lies you go for it. This came right straight out of the libtards agenda...a big fat lie...

The other garbage is nothing but more bias bs...left wing bias bs...you bit hook, line, and sinker....poor ole' misguided being.

47 posted on 09/20/2011 8:16:32 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Tulane

Romney would have a bit more trouble motivating the base, but would fare better in the upper Midwest, Northeast, and states like PA and NV.

Perry, however, would be stronger in VA, NC, and probably CO, and NM, as well as Iowa.

Both would do equally well in Ohio and Florida, IMHO.


48 posted on 09/20/2011 8:17:52 AM PDT by RockinRight (Carter Obama and Reagan the nation!)
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To: RobaWho

Perry or Romney or “Sit Home” are not the only three options. Being better than Obama is your standard? Wow, my english bulldog is more qualified than Obama. One, only one leader, proven, vetted, wildly popular and courageous as hell could beat Mr. ObamneyCare & Merck’s top Texas salesman with half her brain tied behind her back - Governor Sarah Palin.
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Yes, I would vote for your Bulldog over Obama.

When Palin gets in, she will be an instant contender. I honestly don’t think she is running, though — I could be wrong, but I just don’t see it.


49 posted on 09/20/2011 8:18:17 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Agree with 99%...though if we are only talking domestic issues, I’d move Nixon below Clinton...


50 posted on 09/20/2011 8:20:12 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: RobaWho

Let me fix that for you:

Anyone that believes Sarah Palin, who is not running, has the intentions, personal courage or respect for our Constitution to radically challenge the Democrat, Republican & Media Parties, by actually DEFEATING OBAMA, will ensure America’s collapse if she is nominated in 2012.


51 posted on 09/20/2011 8:20:21 AM PDT by RockinRight (Carter Obama and Reagan the nation!)
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To: RobaWho

When do you predict Governor Palin will announce?


52 posted on 09/20/2011 8:21:11 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: RobaWho

I worked tirelessly for McRino only one reason was Sarah Palin would have been VP. McRino said he’d only serve one term and Sarah Palin would have been in the right spot to run and win the President for 2012. With her childish way of not declaring and leading her supporters on...as I was probably a strong supporter before most were....I gave up on her. I also looked at lots and lots of internals on Sarah and have had to grasp she can’t win.


53 posted on 09/20/2011 8:21:17 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: RobaWho

Palin could be the Second Coming, but it won’t matter, because:

A - she isn’t running

B - she can’t win if she does

I could do a better job than Obama too, but nobody’s gonna vote for me, either.


54 posted on 09/20/2011 8:22:38 AM PDT by RockinRight (Carter Obama and Reagan the nation!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Did Bachmann hurt him that much?


55 posted on 09/20/2011 8:23:23 AM PDT by RockinRight (Carter Obama and Reagan the nation!)
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To: Diogenesis

It is time for a conservative to enter the race.


Moose seanson ends today so maybe there will be an announcement shortly. Let the games begin.


56 posted on 09/20/2011 8:24:42 AM PDT by deport
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You may be suffering from a teensy, weensy, wittle overdose of lame stream media nausea - you obviously think all the candidates are in this race? Really? Reagan didn’t enter the race until Nov of 79. Kennedy didn’t enter until Jan of 60. Palin has an Army of millions of fans, 35 statewide organizations, 900,000 more Facebook fans that all other republican candidates, COMBINED. She’s running third in most every credible poll that is worded fairly, without an announced campaign. Why do you think she has a Chief of Staff, Foreign Policy Advisor, a Political Action Committee, a massive ground game of volunteers and ZERO need for the mainstream media circuit of fools, pundits, advisors and inside the beltway, establishment types? Please, I pray you, eject yourself from the “group think” universe in which the two parties & the media try to contain you.


57 posted on 09/20/2011 8:27:09 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: Clairity

Well, for me, I’m split already on both these guys. I’m a bit confused on them. My state is irrelevant to the process. But, it’s the lesser of two evils thing again. Which only angers me. Sorry.


58 posted on 09/20/2011 8:27:09 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Tulane

I actually thought of moving Nixon to below Clinton also :)


59 posted on 09/20/2011 8:31:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Great minds...


60 posted on 09/20/2011 8:32:26 AM PDT by Tulane
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