Rick Perry leads Mitt Romney in South Carolina

Politico ^ | Sept 20, 2011 | Juana Summers

[Clairity]

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a slim lead on former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the latest Winthrop Poll of South Carolina voters.

The poll, taken last week, shows Perry with 29.8 percent support from Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, to Romney's 26.6 percent. No other candidate is in the double digits.

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

I fear you have vastly misoverestimated her support and time is running out, but we’ll see. Keep the faith.

[TexasFreeper2009]

No, not Bachmann alone, two rigged debates with each and every question poised as an attack on Perry. So Perry had to simultaneously fight 6 others and several moderators all out to get him and him alone to the exclusion of all others.

(although Santorum did manage to completely destroy Paul)

[RobaWho]

Seriously, that’s your answer? Most “polls” don’t want her to run? So now you’re a believer in media polls, huh? Wow - a whole new category of voter - “Poll Conservative” - obviously those polls have massive credibility, just as the ones that show Obama approval ratings at 46%, huh? How about you invest $4, watch “The Undefeated” and then tell me she’s not the only leader our country deserves. Try as the media might to hide the fact that Palin is a hero and the most successful Governor in US History - a FACT - they will no longer be able to DUPE a public that distrusts the media as much as they distrust Obama - yet here you are arguing that you don’t support Palin because “the media polls” report that you shouldn’t because “she can’t win”. This is known as “circular logic” and it doesn’t even pass the smell test.

[Servant of the Cross]

Toto, I've a feeling we're not in 1979 (or 1960) anymore!

[deport]

Winthrop Poll Results Of September 2011

Among the Winthrop Poll findings:

• When asked about Barack Obama’s job performance as president, 40% of all respondents approved, while 50.7% disapproved. Independents—whom many cite as a key factor in the 2012 election--disapproved by 56.5%.
• Among Republicans/Republican leaners definitely planning to vote in the GOP Primary, Rick Perry—who entered the race for the GOP nod during an appearance in SC—lead Mitt Romney by 30.5% to 27.3%--within the margin of error.
• When Republicans/Republican leaners who are definitely planning to vote in the Primary were asked who they thought the eventual 2012 Republican nominee would be—regardless of the one they currently supported—Rick Perry was named most frequently, by 35.4%, while 29.4% chose Mitt Romney.
• Michele Bachmann is polling back to where she was in Winthrop’s April 2011 Poll, when the two frontrunners—Huckabee and Romney—were chosen by 35.7% of Republicans/Republican leaners definitely planning to vote in the GOP Primary. In the new Winthrop Poll, the two frontrunners (Perry and Romney) collectively hold 57.8% of the support from that group. In absolute terms this means Bachmann is back to where she started in April. In relative terms, she has slipped.
• Herman Cain’s numbers, among Republicans/Republican leaners definitely planning to vote in the SC Primary, have gone from 2.1% in the Winthrop April 2001 Poll to 7.7% in this current poll.
• Among Republicans/Republican leaners, 67.8% said they did not consider themselves members of the Tea Party movement, but 74.4% of the same group said they generally agree with the Tea Party’s principles.
• Among Republicans/Republican leaners who are definitely planning on voting in the GOP Primary in SC, 59.9% said that it was more important to select a Republican presidential nominee who matched their beliefs, while 33.5% in this category disagreed, saying it was more important to select a candidate who could beat President Obama in 2012.
• Among Republicans/Republican leaners, 74.7% feel the term “socialist” describes President Obama very well or well.
• Among Republicans/Republican leaners, almost 30% believe President Obama is a Muslim.
• Among Republicans/Republican leaners, 36% continue to believe the president was either probably, or definitely, born in another country. Even though a long-form birth certificate for the president was produced between the Winthrop April 2011 Poll and now—showing he was born in Hawaii—just 5.2% fewer respondents now believe Obama was born outside the country than those back in April (36% now vs. 41.2 % in April).
• Among Republicans/Republican leaners, 62.4% identify the economy/financial crisis and jobs/ unemployment as the biggest problems facing the U.S.
• As events were recently held in the U.S. to commemorate the 10^th anniversary of the September 11^th attacks, nearly three-in-four (73.3%) Republicans/Republican leaners said they believed our country’s efforts to combat terrorism have made it much more safe, or somewhat more safe. But when the same group was asked if the Obama Administration has been more or less effective than the George W. Bush Administration at combating terrorism, 42.3% said they felt it has been either somewhat less effective or much less effective than the Bush Administration.

Complete data at the link above.

[samtheman]

I will vote for Perry as he is FAR better than Romney.

I agree.

[samtheman]

The poll, taken last week, shows Perry with 29.8 percent support from Republicans and Republican-leaning independents to Romney’s 26.6 percent. No other candidate is in the double digits.

Hard to believe it's that close.

[samtheman]

You have Ford more liberal than Clinton?

[RobaWho]

Where to possibly begin with all this incredible depth, Erik. You’ve obviously spent seconds or even minutes analyzing all this.

Reagan actually tested a pilot program for Amnesty and IT FAILED - it doesn’t work. No more tests. Even you and Mr. Perry get this, right?

Yes, Reagan did prudent, deficit spending in his successful effort to bankrupt the USSR. He deficit spent due to the mandatory realities of working with Tip O’Neal and a democrat Senate - It was compromise or total gridlock. Governor Palin will be offered the opportunity of “Cut or US Failure” and she will Cut as she did in Alaska - look it up.

Yes, Reagan raised taxes in 1986 - to extremely dismal results. In spite of his attempts at modest compromise, this tax increase experiment - filled with loopholes & crony compromise, was a HUGE fail. Learn the lessons. Even you and Mr. Perry get this, right?

The beginning HUGE step towards Constitutional Order CAN begin in one term, just as the final tipping point towards Cloward-Pivens can be taken in one term - just as the Obama-Soros-Media are attempting. And progressive RINOs in office and RINOs like Perry & Romney will NEVER stop them. Slightly slow them they might, but stop them? Never.

Play in your little dreamland with the false choices the media and ruling-class establishment are presenting you with. Go back to sleep and you’ll be just fine. Trust me, Perry & Romney are on the case!

[samtheman]

Most polls show Republicans don't even want her to run anymore.

Hence the line, "polls are for strippers".

When the polls are consistently against you, it's time to declare all polls invalid.

[RobaWho]

Here’s her Three Big Ideas that will accomplishment virtually everything.

1 - Radical Tax Reform - Fair, Flat, or Similar.
2 - Cut, Cap & Balance.
3 - Total Energy Independence

These three major agenda items will accomplish most, if not all of the 15 items I previously itemized.

No, put down your Donald Duck Disney book on how to discuss politics with big boy - and go take your afternoon nap. Perry will be over soon to sing to you.

[pgkdan]

Yeah right. Let me know when Jesus Christ comes down off the cross to run for President. I’ll vote for him but I’m sure there’ll be plenty around here who would call Him a RINO.

[samtheman]

She’s running third in most every credible poll that is worded fairly, without an announced campaign.

I thought polls were for strippers...

Hmmm... so I guess there are good polls and stripper polls...

All depends on the results ...

If the poll is good for you, it's a poll... if it's not, it's for strippers.

Got it!

[pgkdan]

One, only one leader, proven, vetted, wildly popular and courageous as hell could beat Mr. ObamneyCare & Merck’s top Texas salesman with half her brain tied behind her back - Governor Sarah Palin.

Sorry but quitting 2.5 years into a 4 year term disqualifies her from using her former office as an honorific title.

[RobaWho]

Where your logic goes far afield is here - you believe Perry is a conservative, while you blindly ignore all evidence and facts to the contrary. The Tea Party has NOT impacted Speaker Boehner, Mitch McConnell or most of the RINOs residing in our Congress. 22 members of Congress voted against raising the debt ceiling. Zero in the Senate voted against raising the debt ceiling. Most all serving in congress “play the game” - go along to get along. Palin won’t play. You suffer from the disease of “Republican = good” and “Democrat = Bad” syndrome. Reality is “Both = Failure”. Please, wake up.

[Servant of the Cross]

Play in your little dreamland with the false choices ....

[deport]

The real meat of the poll is as follows:

Thinking ahead to the 2012 Presidential election, who would
you vote for as your FIRST CHOICE to be the next Republican
nominee for President if the primary election were held today?



              Republican/            “Definitely” vote
              Republican Leaners      2012 Repub. Primary
 
Bachmann           4.2                      3.5
Cain               6.8                      7.7
Gingrich           4.6                      5.3
Huntsman           1.3                      1.6
Palin              6.3                      5.8
Paul               4.2                      4.2
Perry             29.8                     30.5
Romney            26.5                     27.3
Santorum           2.6                      1.5
Other              0.8                      0.2
Not Sure          12.1                     11.1
Refused            0.9                      1.2
 


 

Regardless of who you currently support, who do you think
the eventual 2012 Republican presidential nominee will be? 

              Republican/            “Definitely” vote
              Republican Leaners      2012 Repub. Primary
 
Bachmann           4.2                      3.0
Cain               1.2                      1.3
Gingrich           1.5                      1.6
Huntsman           0.3                      0.2
Palin              2.8                      2.5
Paul               2.6                      2.5
Perry             33.4                     35.4
Romney            28.0                     29.4
Santorum           0.1                      0.0
Other              0.4                      0.4
Not Sure          25.0                     22.8
Refused            0.6                      0.8 
 

[pgkdan]

If you define “extreme” as the only Governor in the history of the Gallup polling company’s 75 year history to earn back to back statewide popularity above 80% - the highest rated Governor in US history, then yeah - I do support an extremist.

Any Gov willing to steal the profits of the largest industry in their state to redistribute as a cash payout to that state's citizens would be extremely popular among the check cashers.

[newzjunkey]

Romney is getting a big push from the press. Last week it was Coulter, Ingraham and Huckabee. Sunday it was Fox "All Stars" like Bill Kristol (although he's still wanting Christie).

The new Gallup shows Romney (24%) closing on Perry (31%) with Ron Paul disturbingly at 13% and Bachmann imploding at 5%. The same poll shows Perry is more polarizing, and behind Obama by 5%, but GOP-leaning independents would vote for him by 10% over Romney head-to-head.

[Longbow1969]

Seriously, that’s your answer? Most “polls” don’t want her to run? So now you’re a believer in media polls, huh? Wow - a whole new category of voter - “Poll Conservative” - obviously those polls have massive credibility, just as the ones that show Obama approval ratings at 46%, huh? How about you invest $4, watch “The Undefeated” and then tell me she’s not the only leader our country deserves. Try as the media might to hide the fact that Palin is a hero and the most successful Governor in US History - a FACT - they will no longer be able to DUPE a public that distrusts the media as much as they distrust Obama - yet here you are arguing that you don’t support Palin because “the media polls” report that you shouldn’t because “she can’t win”. This is known as “circular logic” and it doesn’t even pass the smell test.

You gotta let it go chief. Palin is not running, and part of the reason is perhaps the fact she can see how tremendously badly she polls (even within her own party). It's just not going to happen in 2012. Maybe in 2016 if we lose this time around, or perhaps 2020, but not in 2012. Quitting her job as governor, doing fluff RealityTV, hit and run spotlight hogging events, a drawn out presidential tease campaign, etc, have just turned off what now appear to be even a majority of Republicans.

If you want to sit around, bury your head in the sand and deny obvious across the board polling evidence that shows her negatives are astronomically bad and most Republicans don't even want her to run, well, I can't stop you from going through life wearing blinders. You begin to sound like the Christine O Donnell fans that refused to believe all the polls which made it clear she would lose in a landslide. O'Donnell's die hard supporters made similar arguments denouncing polls as media creations, yet when it came time to count the votes the polls were exactly correct.