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Hey Professors, Pay Up [$10,000 for medical records proving the Bachmann HPV anecdote is true]
American Thinker ^ | 9/20/11 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 09/22/2011 10:13:51 AM PDT by ZGuy

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To: DJ MacWoW

The year mattered only in the respect that it was written with specific objections to Perry’s method of mandate that would (could) be irrelevant if implemented differently by a future Texas legislature.

But I guess we disagree on the opt-out. I’ve seen it work.

(My whole family got whooping cough last year.)


101 posted on 09/22/2011 2:31:48 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dudoight
Why should anyone have to tell the government "NO!".

See Post 93

102 posted on 09/22/2011 2:32:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Dudoight

My point is that until more is known, the option should be to opt IN, if the parent wants to do so. Not to start with a requirement and then opt out. A change in starting assumptions.


103 posted on 09/22/2011 2:37:39 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Whooping cough is some nasty stuff. I had it when my sister had rheumatic fever. I stayed at home and she lived at Grandma’s. I always got sick when I got vaccinations too. I had to be revaccinated in 1985 but can’t remember which one it was. They said the 50’s vaccine didn’t work and everyone needed to be revaccinated.


104 posted on 09/22/2011 2:39:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

This reminds me of the case where a 17-year-old guy had cancer and had tried the chemo and was so sick from it he just didn’t even want to live. He and his family researched an alternative therapy that they believed was very effective and chose to do that. A social worker reported the parents for child abuse, for not insisting that he do the chemo and/or radiation therapy. So the parents had the choice of doing what they and their son believed was best and have their son taken away from them and put under the care of a social worker who would force him to do the chemo etc.... or just agree to do the chemo etc that made their son suicidal.

IOW, they literally had no option of saying no to medications that a social worker thought they should have.

Great choice, huh? If this was an issue of whether a full-term, fully-born infant who survived abortion would be given food, the government would insist that it was the woman’s choice whether she abused that child to death, all in the name of “my body, my choice”. But when it’s a decision that truly only affects the one making the decision - no innocent life being forced into death by somebody else’s choice - there’s no such thing as personal choice.

This is literally the government forcing drugs down a kid’s throat. Here in Amerikkka.


105 posted on 09/22/2011 7:25:06 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: DJ MacWoW

I had the German measles vaccination as a kid but after our first child was stillborn they checked and found that I was not immune to German measles. I had to get another vaccination before we could try to conceive again.


106 posted on 09/22/2011 7:28:28 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: UCANSEE2
I think that the mixing of the terms Mental Retardation and Brain Damage are not that unusual for a layman

That may be the case, but they are distinctly different. So far the 10K is safe.

107 posted on 09/22/2011 10:21:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Wuli
However, that still does NOT mean that Bachman was wrong

NO. But Bachmann reported a claim. It is up the claimant to substantiate the claim, not the skeptic to disprove it, which is essentially logically impossible.

108 posted on 09/22/2011 10:30:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lazlo in PA

Bachmann merely repeated what a woman in the audience told her, and brain damage can certaily be like mental retardation, so that’s what the woman called it.


109 posted on 09/23/2011 1:22:25 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“I think that the mixing of the terms Mental Retardation and Brain Damage are not that unusual for a layman.”

Exactly. I don’t know why some people don’t see that.


110 posted on 09/23/2011 1:24:20 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“But Bachmann reported a claim. It is up the claimant to substantiate the claim, not the skeptic to disprove it, which is essentially logically impossible.”

That is not the point.

A skeptic that steps out to prove Bachman wrong, while offering evidence that does not amount that proof, has in fact offered just “so many words, full of sound and fury signifying nothing” [to paraphrase a famous line].

You’re right, no one is REQUIRED to prove Bachman wrong. She should back up her own statement.

But, anyone TRYING to show proof of why Bachman is wrong should do so on a more substantial basis than what the author in the AmericanThinker offered.

In the eyes of anyone looking for “proof”, he proved himself no better than Bachman. That’s the issue, against his piece in the AmericanThinker.


111 posted on 09/23/2011 12:14:12 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: ZGuy

The thing that surprised me the most was this...I thought the term “mental retardation” was not used anymore?

Special Olympics,Special needs, something challenged etc are better terms I thought.

To say I am the mother of a mentally retarded child, or that my child acquired mental retardation...are not terms that are proper to use anymore I thought? So that was suspicious sounding to me.


112 posted on 09/25/2011 11:27:16 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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