Posted on 09/22/2011 10:13:51 AM PDT by ZGuy
As you might know, Michele Bachmann claimed that a woman came up to her, crying, saying that her child suffered mental retardation after being vaccinated for HPV. A couple of professors question her claim. The story is reported by Chris Moody.
Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann's story about a woman who claimed that her daughter suffered 'mental retardation' after receiving a vaccine against HPV could fetch the woman's family thousands of dollars. But the family can only collect if Bachmann or the unnamed woman can prove the story is true.
Two bioethics professors have offered to pay more than $10,000 for medical records that prove the anecdote Bachmann told after Monday night's Republican presidential debate is true[.]
I'd like to collect that $10,000 now, professors.
I ask the professors to look up a case in the CDC's VAERS database. Specifically, VAERS number 380440. The case was reported in Oregon on February 15, 2010. The patient was 12 years old. The symptoms in that case were reported in the VAERS database as follows. . .
The professors might also look up VAERS case number 396852. That case was reported in New York on August 8, 2010. The patient was 20 years old.
The professors might also look up VAERS case number 339718. That case was reported in Indiana on February 17, 2009. The patient was 13 years old.
Do I get my $10,000 yet?
As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil® were distributed in the U.S. and VAERS received a total of 18,727 reports of adverse events following Gardasil® vaccination. 8% were considered serious*...
*"Serious" means "hospitalization, permanent disability, life-threatening illness, congenital anomaly or death."
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
The year mattered only in the respect that it was written with specific objections to Perry’s method of mandate that would (could) be irrelevant if implemented differently by a future Texas legislature.
But I guess we disagree on the opt-out. I’ve seen it work.
(My whole family got whooping cough last year.)
See Post 93
My point is that until more is known, the option should be to opt IN, if the parent wants to do so. Not to start with a requirement and then opt out. A change in starting assumptions.
Whooping cough is some nasty stuff. I had it when my sister had rheumatic fever. I stayed at home and she lived at Grandma’s. I always got sick when I got vaccinations too. I had to be revaccinated in 1985 but can’t remember which one it was. They said the 50’s vaccine didn’t work and everyone needed to be revaccinated.
This reminds me of the case where a 17-year-old guy had cancer and had tried the chemo and was so sick from it he just didn’t even want to live. He and his family researched an alternative therapy that they believed was very effective and chose to do that. A social worker reported the parents for child abuse, for not insisting that he do the chemo and/or radiation therapy. So the parents had the choice of doing what they and their son believed was best and have their son taken away from them and put under the care of a social worker who would force him to do the chemo etc.... or just agree to do the chemo etc that made their son suicidal.
IOW, they literally had no option of saying no to medications that a social worker thought they should have.
Great choice, huh? If this was an issue of whether a full-term, fully-born infant who survived abortion would be given food, the government would insist that it was the woman’s choice whether she abused that child to death, all in the name of “my body, my choice”. But when it’s a decision that truly only affects the one making the decision - no innocent life being forced into death by somebody else’s choice - there’s no such thing as personal choice.
This is literally the government forcing drugs down a kid’s throat. Here in Amerikkka.
I had the German measles vaccination as a kid but after our first child was stillborn they checked and found that I was not immune to German measles. I had to get another vaccination before we could try to conceive again.
That may be the case, but they are distinctly different. So far the 10K is safe.
NO. But Bachmann reported a claim. It is up the claimant to substantiate the claim, not the skeptic to disprove it, which is essentially logically impossible.
Bachmann merely repeated what a woman in the audience told her, and brain damage can certaily be like mental retardation, so that’s what the woman called it.
“I think that the mixing of the terms Mental Retardation and Brain Damage are not that unusual for a layman.”
Exactly. I don’t know why some people don’t see that.
“But Bachmann reported a claim. It is up the claimant to substantiate the claim, not the skeptic to disprove it, which is essentially logically impossible.”
That is not the point.
A skeptic that steps out to prove Bachman wrong, while offering evidence that does not amount that proof, has in fact offered just “so many words, full of sound and fury signifying nothing” [to paraphrase a famous line].
You’re right, no one is REQUIRED to prove Bachman wrong. She should back up her own statement.
But, anyone TRYING to show proof of why Bachman is wrong should do so on a more substantial basis than what the author in the AmericanThinker offered.
In the eyes of anyone looking for “proof”, he proved himself no better than Bachman. That’s the issue, against his piece in the AmericanThinker.
The thing that surprised me the most was this...I thought the term “mental retardation” was not used anymore?
Special Olympics,Special needs, something challenged etc are better terms I thought.
To say I am the mother of a mentally retarded child, or that my child acquired mental retardation...are not terms that are proper to use anymore I thought? So that was suspicious sounding to me.
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