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CERN scientists 'break the speed of light'
The Telegraph ^ | Sept. 22, 2011 | Uncredited

Posted on 09/22/2011 6:57:08 PM PDT by danielmryan

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To: danielmryan

It’s either measurement error or we’ll need quantum correction to general relativity (but everyone was expecting to need quantum corrections to GR anyway).

And still no Higgs boson . . .


41 posted on 09/22/2011 7:34:05 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: UCANSEE2

I knew those proton pills weren’t all that. ;^)
Roger the Pill-popper.


42 posted on 09/22/2011 7:35:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (.)
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To: Moose Burger
Photons have no mass either, and are of course restrained by light speed.

Only the ones you have seen.

43 posted on 09/22/2011 7:35:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SunkenCiv
I blush...
44 posted on 09/22/2011 7:36:40 PM PDT by danielmryan
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To: P.O.E.
I’ve always wondered if that’s how angels traversed vast distances and time, i.e., by exploiting some quantum vector.

Maybe angels have no mass.

45 posted on 09/22/2011 7:37:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
Most everything around you was a thought in someone’s mind, and eventually they made it ‘real’.

Not so fast! Serendipity. A lot of stuff was invented purely by accident, while the creators were unsuccessfully trying to create the stuff of their dreams. Post-it notes, as I recall came about from failed attempts to market a strong reusable glue. Years later a colleague accidentally stumbled across a use while gluing a bookmark in his hymnbook. Things that make you go "hymn..."

46 posted on 09/22/2011 7:37:57 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: UCANSEE2

Well, yeah, *rest* mass; on the other side, neutrinos aren’t either fully massless for every definition of mass - gotta check that, I don’t have the exact figures right here.


47 posted on 09/22/2011 7:40:51 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Morpheus2009

See “Cherenkov Radiation”. High speed particles regularly enter the earths atmosphere at superluminal speeds. That is, they exceed the speed of light in that particular medium. This experiment seems to show superluminal speeds in a vacuum. Bad boys, breaking the law.. Would be a huge finding if duplicated, although I suspect an explanation will be found that does not upset Einstein.


48 posted on 09/22/2011 7:41:14 PM PDT by Paradox (Democrats on Obama, They can't deny him, He is them.)
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To: roadcat
A lot of stuff was invented purely by accident,

That's covered under the 'Sh*t Happens' clause. Still, without the 'mind' of man attempting to 'create', post-it notes would never have been a reality.

49 posted on 09/22/2011 7:45:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: roadcat

P.S. Mostly it is due to the fact that we are ‘imperfect’ creators, and only GOD is a PERFECT CREATOR.


50 posted on 09/22/2011 7:46:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: danielmryan

I wonder how much the ticket is for breaking the speed of light?


51 posted on 09/22/2011 7:49:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: roadcat

I believe the ‘wheel’ was an accident left over from the attempt to find a better way to grind wheat and rice.


52 posted on 09/22/2011 7:53:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: danielmryan

They were so fast they got there before they were sent...


53 posted on 09/22/2011 7:56:20 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: danielmryan

Never underestimate that this could be global warmists claiming Co2 affects the speed of light (nutrinos). They will spin this to harm freedom.


54 posted on 09/22/2011 7:56:40 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama unemployment equals national prosperity.)
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To: TexasTransplant
"...effect Man Made Global Warming?"

That would be "affect", not "effect".

55 posted on 09/22/2011 8:00:05 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: SunTzuWu; All

Actually, Neutrinos do have a very VERY small mass.

I recommend the book Neutrino by Frank Close. Really good overview of the history and science of the Neutrino.


56 posted on 09/22/2011 8:00:48 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Conan the Librarian
Actually, Neutrinos do have a very VERY small mass.

Beat me to it. Yup, they have mass. 3 different types of neutrinos are differetiated by their different masses. Scientists had thought them massless years ago, though.

57 posted on 09/22/2011 8:21:14 PM PDT by America_Right (Ron Swanson 2012)
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To: danielmryan

Steven Wright had it correct many years ago. “If you’re traveling in a spacecraft at the speed of light and you turn your headlights on...does it make any difference?”


58 posted on 09/22/2011 8:30:43 PM PDT by lunarville (Common sense ain't so common anymore...)
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To: danielmryan

[One question comes to mind: why didn’t the neutrinos travel backwards in time?]

Because time is a derivative function of state-change and has no “backwards” to travel into.


59 posted on 09/22/2011 8:56:30 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: UCANSEE2
...it's just that light has slowed down

Oh...you mean the speed of dark.

60 posted on 09/22/2011 8:57:38 PM PDT by tarpit
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