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Why Federal Government Trumps the States
US News & World Report ^ | September 23, 2011 | Rick Newman, Chief Business Correspondent

Posted on 09/24/2011 7:11:32 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

It sounds quaint. But giving Washington less control over our affairs, and the states more control, is a bad idea.

Here's why: People move.

Anybody who has relocated from one state to another knows there's a huge hassle factor associated with simply adapting to a different set of rules.

There's also the dubious proposition that states manage their business better than the federal government. It's true that nearly all states are required to balance their budgets, which creates a degree of spending discipline. But that's hardly the same thing as responsible government.

It's worth keeping in mind that the national press corps is centered in Washington and New York, and for all its flaws, there are still hundreds of dogged journalists eager to ferret out wrongdoing and pounce on scandalous behavior.

In state capitals, by contrast, there's far less oversight and a thin press corps that can't possibly keep tabs on every shady deal.

Yeah, there are a lot of problems with the federal government. But 50 different sets of rules isn't one of them.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: communism; journalism; republic; socialism
The author is a moron.

There I said it!

1 posted on 09/24/2011 7:11:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Agreed.


2 posted on 09/24/2011 7:14:04 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Federalists have been around since the Constitution became the law of the land.

I believe that some of these clowns would actually like re attach the country to England or something.


3 posted on 09/24/2011 7:16:53 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Boy, I can smell the fear, we must be winning the debate.....


4 posted on 09/24/2011 7:17:51 AM PDT by stockpirate ("A people get the leaders they deserve......")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

yes he is.


5 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:02 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie
Re: It's true that nearly all states are required to balance their budgets, which creates a degree of spending discipline. But that's hardly the same thing as responsible government.

Haven't read USN&WR for a decade or more due to statements like that above!

6 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:43 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“...and a thin press corps that can't possibly keep tabs on every shady deal.”

and that is the main point, the essence of favoring central control of government and rule by federal bureaucracies.

7 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:51 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You said it! A brass plated a-hole too!


8 posted on 09/24/2011 7:19:51 AM PDT by pgkdan (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There's also the dubious proposition that states manage their business better than the federal government.

Is it presumable, that every man, the instant he took his seat in the national Senate or House of Representatives, would commence a traitor to his constituents and to his country? Can it be supposed that there would not be found one man, discerning enough to detect so atrocious a conspiracy, or bold or honest enough to apprise his constituents of their danger? If such presumptions can fairly be made, there ought at once to be an end of all delegated authority. The people should resolve to recall all the powers they have heretofore parted with out of their own hands, and to divide themselves into as many States as there are counties, in order that they may be able to manage their own concerns in person.
Alexander Hamilton federalist #26

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I think calling this author a moron is an insult to morons.

9 posted on 09/24/2011 7:20:07 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Laws of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The author is a moron.

You are being kind to the writer. Way to kind! :)

10 posted on 09/24/2011 7:20:11 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here's why: People move.

That's also a good reason why things should be at the lowest level possible. It provides an effective feedback mechanism. If the laws are bad, then people move out. For example, if a state wants to form its own little socialist republic, then the workers and companies flee while the moochers pile in. Very quickly the state will see its budget crash and have to fix the problem. On the other hand, it takes far longer for a whole country to see the problem of the productive moving out as Greece is now and the US is beginning to see with some multinational companies deciding they would rather be based outside to the US because of our increasing regulations and corporate taxes.

11 posted on 09/24/2011 7:20:43 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In state capitals, by contrast, there’s far less oversight and a thin press corps that can’t possibly keep tabs on every shady deal.

You mean like the MSM keeps tabs on shady deals. Wake up moron. People move and that is a choice they make willingly.
I could go on but... it is enlightening to watch someone make money printing BS. Maybe you should get a real job.


12 posted on 09/24/2011 7:21:52 AM PDT by wita
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just Wow. Does a more moronic person exist?

Let’s abandon the 10th because people “move.” As if the country never had a westward migration or Manifest Destiny? (quaint old term — still taught?)

And the Washington press corps reports on corruption? LOLOL — stop it, you’re killing me.


13 posted on 09/24/2011 7:23:05 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
In state capitals, by contrast, there's far less oversight and a thin press corps that can't possibly keep tabs on every shady deal.

Well, we can see from whence this asshat emerges. So, in his terminology a dirth in the state capitol cities is offset by what? A plethora of meddling journalists in our Capitol? That is exactly what is wrong with this country - liberal journalists. There used to be a saying "First, kill all the lawyers"; nice sentiment, but wrong profession.

14 posted on 09/24/2011 7:25:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: KarlInOhio
For example, if a state wants to form its own little socialist republic, then the workers and companies flee while the moochers pile in. Very quickly the state will see its budget crash and have to fix the problem.

Great theory, but sure not true in California. We're counting on YOU, Karl, to help us out here.

15 posted on 09/24/2011 7:25:29 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The author is an a$$hat. No question. The anti-federalists of the late 18th century were correct. The Federal usurpation went into high gear with Lincoln the butcher and its been all downhill from there.

States right damn it.

16 posted on 09/24/2011 7:27:36 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
You would have to pay me a lot of money to live in Jersey, Calif, etc... . For instance, enough to store my guns in other states and enough to travel to visit them regularly.

That is the beauty of states rights, each state is allowed to determine its own rules according to the people that live there, we don't have to convince the whole nation to agree with our position. In the alternative, I don't think the majority of people in Jersey want to be a "right to work" state either, so let them keep that law- it means more jobs for my state.

17 posted on 09/24/2011 7:27:59 AM PDT by fini
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

after reading the whole article, this guy is a breathless idiot.


18 posted on 09/24/2011 7:33:08 AM PDT by stylin19a (obama..."Fredo-Smart")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t want the federal government sending money to my state.

I’d rather keep as much of my money as I can and encourage people to come here and spend their money by their own choice.


19 posted on 09/24/2011 7:35:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well I guess he told us. Just forget about states rights and the 10th Ammendment. Big government is good government.


20 posted on 09/24/2011 7:47:13 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Memo to Rick Newman: There would be no Federal Government without the States. =.=


21 posted on 09/24/2011 7:51:11 AM PDT by cranked
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Oldeconomybuyer.
It's true that nearly all states are required to balance their budgets, which creates a degree of spending discipline. But that's hardly the same thing as responsible government.
Luckily for the author, there's no such thing as responsible journalism.


22 posted on 09/24/2011 7:53:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I disagree. You are CRIMINALLY, criminally I say, insulting all the innocent morons out there who have never done anything to you. :)

The author is much worse. He is an intelligent man who applies his intelligence to the advancement of evil.

I’m tired of giving the “progressives” a pass on their moral leprosy.


23 posted on 09/24/2011 7:54:19 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

>Federalists have been around since the Constitution became the law of the land.

I believe that some of these clowns would actually like re attach the country to England or something.<

Yup. These liberal clowns want us to be subjects and slaves instead of citizens. That’s why they love communism and commie leaders, and the more reason why I lean towards a quaint revolution so we could start all over again.


24 posted on 09/24/2011 7:55:38 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The author is a moron.
There I said it!”

Yup, ya sed it. Ya done good.


25 posted on 09/24/2011 7:57:08 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think the little Commie Statist knows exactly what he is doing. Evil isn’t always stupid. He is evil.


26 posted on 09/24/2011 7:59:34 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is this another blog post? Who is US News and World Report?


27 posted on 09/24/2011 8:12:20 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DaxtonBrown

I think it is a “pamphlet” of some kind. I’ve seen one in the dentist waiting room before. Curious things.


28 posted on 09/24/2011 8:13:49 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Anybody who has relocated from one state to another knows there's a huge hassle factor associated with simply adapting to a different set of rules. You have to re-register your car and get a new driver's license. Do that a couple of times, and you'll surely become a fan of a national driver's license.

Calling Rick Newman a moron is too much of a compliment.

Mr. Newman (and I use the title only b/c of convention), one year I twice moved from one state to another. If the small inconvenience causes you to give up liberty, the right of free speech is wasted on you.

29 posted on 09/24/2011 8:18:32 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“It’s worth keeping in mind that the national press corps is centered in Washington and New York, and for all its flaws, there are still hundreds of dogged journalists eager to ferret out wrongdoing and pounce on scandalous behavior.”

Sure they are- as long as its the Republicans. When its the Democrats, they look the other way....


30 posted on 09/24/2011 8:18:43 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Bender2

You got it, brother!


31 posted on 09/24/2011 8:26:28 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And all of those moving peasants are too stupid to figure things out and take care of themselves.


32 posted on 09/24/2011 8:39:33 AM PDT by rbbeachkid (Get out of its way and small business can fix the economy.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

According the author’s moronic logic we should also ban private companies: Everyone should work for one big company so when we move no one has to learn new rules.

Liberals are the most feeble minded idiots, everything is hard to them.


33 posted on 09/24/2011 8:41:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This miserable excuse for journalism should be read and ridiculed at the next debate and everyone of it's overarching central government pronouncements soundly ridiculed as anti Constitutional and anti Republic.

This truly is the sad, sad result of the current educational system in this country that is infested with the cancer or collectivism in all it's hideous forms.

34 posted on 09/24/2011 9:01:17 AM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fifty years ago we still had a government that had not yet almost totally wiped out states rights.

In that era a trip around the United States was a much different experience than is the case today. The same can be said about moving from one state to another.

Each state or region provided a different and unique experience.

There were enough differences to give you a feeling for the cultural uniqueness of each region, yet just enough similarity so you knew you were still in the good old USA.

Now the country and our culture has been McDonaldized by the federal government to the point where most differences have been eliminated. And each year they pass more laws and regulations to whittle away at the few unique characteristics that remain.

Soon all that we will have left to distinguish one place from another will be the physical geography: the mountains, swamps, seashores and deserts. The Nanny State federal government will have transformed every other aspect of our culture and society into compliance with the federally approved model.


35 posted on 09/24/2011 9:02:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Seems like the author would favor replacing the states with provinces.


36 posted on 09/24/2011 9:05:59 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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To: KarlInOhio

“If the laws are bad, then people move out. For example, if a state wants to form its own little socialist republic, then the workers and companies flee while the moochers pile in.”

YOU NAILED IT!!! If people don’t like the way their state is run, they can move almost hassle-free to another state (and this lady is a jerk for saying that filling out new tax forms and registering cars at DMV is huge hassle).

What she might have talked about is what it would take for any of us (without family connections) to move and become a citizen of Canada, or even Mexico, for that matter. That’s the ONLY WAY to deal with an out of control federal government (such as one that illegally trashes No Child’s Left Behind)...short of succession or revolution.


37 posted on 09/24/2011 9:13:21 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Federal Government gets the big money and then threatens to withhold it from the states if the states don't adopt seat belt laws, speed limits, DUI minimums, child treatment laws, et al.

It's a racket.

38 posted on 09/24/2011 9:13:48 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

His demographic argument was correct, from 1945 to about 1990, in which America’s population experienced its second major demographic movement.

The first major movement was after WWI, when vast numbers of people moved from rural areas to the coasts. Then after WWII, the second movement began, from the old coastal cities, to the new cities of the West. This was greatly assisted by the creation of the Interstate Highway System.

But this grand demographic change is settling down. As is the need for any federal “normalization” and “standardization” between States.

This is why, more and more, States are beginning to reject unconstitutional federal impositions onto their authority. Under the loose umbrella of the “10th Amendment movement” are a whole slew of arguments for a return to State authority from federal usurpation.

This began with the people, in an almost subconscious level. While most do consider themselves “patriotic”, this extends only to the existence of their nation as a whole, *not* to what their federal government does.

Until the Civil War, Americans identified themselves as citizens of their individual States. After WWI, their individual States were where they were “from”, the assumption being that they had left one State for another. Then after WWII, these State associations became tenuous indeed. Yet even then, especially when traveling abroad, most Americans were loathe to even call themselves “American”.

It was too broad a thing to say, with too many assumptions and associations. Too much baggage. Some tried calling themselves “hyphenated-Americans”, like “Italian-American” or “Mexican-American”, but that is terribly unsatisfying.

But today, with an increasingly *less* transitory population, again the appeal of Statehood returns. People are increasingly comfortable with associating themselves with an individual, and unique, State. A State with its own sights, culture, ethnic mix, and most especially *laws* that the people of that State want.

Not federal laws attempting to become redundant with State laws, so that the federals can “horn in” to any situation that catches their attention. But laws just for that State, tailored by its representatives to what the *citizens* of that State want.

Justice Thomas recently wrote a brilliant concurring opinion to the McDonald v. Chicago gun control case, which was intellectually both near and dear to his heart, and a passionate defense of the “privileges or immunity clause” of the 1st section of the 14th Amendment. Some of the most brilliant jurisprudence (judicial philosophy) written in over 50 years.

In it, he created an airtight thesis defending the authority of the federal government to protect and defend the civil rights of Americans, when States attempted to limit those civil rights, in this case, 2nd Amendment rights. But in doing so, he also created a doctrine of a strict limitation of federal authority to interfere *except* under those circumstances.

If Tea Party and conservative Republicans run with this idea, it could mean the end of the horrific federal abuses of the “general welfare” and “interstate commerce clause” abuses, that the federal government has run roughshod with since the 1940’s.

And this would mean drastically reducing and even eliminating much of the federal overreach—now more than half the federal government, thus returning the federal government to constitutionality, and elevating the status of the State governments to far more powerful and representational bodies.

In doing so, the public and business will be freed up to transcend the giant wall of federal limitations, barriers, and crippling handicaps placed on them.


39 posted on 09/24/2011 9:14:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I suppose if a national government is better than individual state governments, then a world government must be better than several different national governments.

Think of how convenient that would be. We could all live by the same simple rules (set by our masters of course) no matter where we lived. Sharia law for all. How much more simple could that be?

Nowhere to run. Nowhere to hide.


40 posted on 09/24/2011 9:34:41 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He admits the press is lazy. It’s so much easier to focus their attention on Washington rather than the 50 state capitals. Tragically there also too lazy to keep their eyes on 535 Senators and Congressmen so the President becomes the only game in town.


41 posted on 09/24/2011 9:35:17 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Great find.

>>>giving Washington less control over our affairs, and the states more control, is a bad idea.

>>>Here’s why: People move.

He forgot about:

People have a right to Choose.

Governments hate competition, but it’s a benefit for their citizens. Citizens of New York can leave for Florida or Texas if they decide they are being over-taxed. Only when one state usurps the rights of another’s residents should a federal solution be favored. An example might be pollution from one state flowing into another.


42 posted on 09/24/2011 9:47:43 AM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I read half way through and then remembered why I always take a book to the doctor or dentist office so that I don’t have to read such garbage as U.S. News & World Report. Tell me, do the libs send their magazines out free to such offices?


43 posted on 09/24/2011 10:41:55 AM PDT by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Win!
44 posted on 09/24/2011 12:32:16 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It's worth keeping in mind that the national press corps is centered in Washington and New York, and for all its flaws, there are still hundreds of dogged journalists eager to ferret out wrongdoing and pounce on scandalous behavior.

Herein lies proof positive of your assertion that the author is, as you succinctly stated, a moron. He is a moron on one of two counts, or even possibly both.

If *he* believes that statement, then he is, in fact, a moron. That only holds true if the wrongdoer is not a Democrat.

If he believes that *we* believe the above, then he is equally a moron. We've seen the blatant double standard, and "end justifies the means" mentality for far too long to fail to recognize it when it is, once again, so rudely shoved into our face.

If he believes *BOTH*, then what can I say, he's removed any possible doubt as to his moronhood...

the infowarrior

45 posted on 09/24/2011 12:50:51 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: elpadre; Oldeconomybuyer
[Art.] “...and a thin press corps that can't possibly keep tabs on every shady deal.”

and that is the main point, the essence of favoring central control of government and rule by federal bureaucracies.

Yeah. And then they go ignore the borders, and some of the States get their bills filled, at the expense of all the others.

As for that trope about shady deals, Houston media chased down a Republican county commissioner, who just took a plea bargain on improper gifts from people with business before the County, and they're also after a Democratic city councilman for running some sort of "pay to play" scheme, and they just had a grand jury look at another council member for other improprieties (they no-billed her).

So, how's Holder Justice coming on those charges of improper influence-peddling in Chicago, and the New Black Panthers, and Gunwalker? How's our federal prosecution machine doing, against the defense attorneys for Jose Padilla and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed?

Did we ever get to the bottom of the Shirley Sherrod fraud, and why more black farmers filed suit againt the Agriculture Department than actually exist in America?

46 posted on 09/24/2011 2:52:24 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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