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Diebold voting machines can be hacked by remote control
Salon ^ | Sept. 27, 2011 | Brad Friedman

Posted on 09/27/2011 9:11:14 AM PDT by Clairity

Exclusive: A laboratory shows how an e-voting machine used by a third of all voters can be easily manipulated

It could be one of the most disturbing e-voting machine hacks to date.

Voting machines used by as many as a quarter of American voters heading to the polls in 2012 can be hacked with just $10.50 in parts and an 8th grade science education, according to computer science and security experts at the Vulnerability Assessment Team at Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois. The experts say the newly developed hack could change voting results while leaving absolutely no trace of the manipulation behind.

"We believe these man-in-the-middle attacks are potentially possible on a wide variety of electronic voting machines," said Roger Johnston, leader of the assessment team "We think we can do similar things on pretty much every electronic voting machine."

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: diebold; elections; electronicvoting; hacking; voterfraud; votingmachines
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This is Obama's REAL strategy to win the 2012 elections.

Notice -- "no trace left behind".

Republicans should demand that these machines NOT be used.

1 posted on 09/27/2011 9:11:19 AM PDT by Clairity
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To: Clairity

how can you hack something with a remote control that doesn’t send of recieve signals?

I can’t hack my toaster.


2 posted on 09/27/2011 9:15:10 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Clairity

you’re right this is the rat strategy but you turned wrong at the fork- they are all ready setting up “the election was stolen” BS after obozo gets his ass kicked...


3 posted on 09/27/2011 9:15:37 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Clairity

Are these the ones that were bought from Venezuela, does anyone know? I wonder if the way things shape up that Obama will be tossed out and someone else (Primary Challenger, etc.) replace him for the 2012 election, and then voter/election fraud used (ala THIS) in order to win the seat for a Dem, again. I have strongly believe there would be a push to use the machine to steal the election (Like “Speculation” with Reid in Nevada this last election).

Remember the “It’s who counts the votes that matters” quote. Still applicable.


4 posted on 09/27/2011 9:16:48 AM PDT by JDW11235
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To: Clairity

More likely it is their plan to make baseless accusations that any Republican victories in Dem-controlled states are the result of imaginary vote tampering by Republicans, because the boogie-man owner of Diebold is a Republican.

Vote tampering is a Dem hallmark. Lying is a Dem hallmark. They always accuse their opponents of doing that which they themselves are doing, even though their accusations are false.


5 posted on 09/27/2011 9:18:36 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: God luvs America

“wrong at the fork- they are all ready setting up “the election was stolen” BS after obozo gets his ass kicked...”

I hadn’t even thought of that, but believe you to be correct. Good catch. It’s a darned if you do, darned if you don’t either way. We need secure election machines and processes, and now.


6 posted on 09/27/2011 9:18:39 AM PDT by JDW11235
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To: TexasFreeper2009
all your bread are belong to us


7 posted on 09/27/2011 9:19:46 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Clairity

Sigh...Law of Unintended Consequences. Back to paper ballots.


8 posted on 09/27/2011 9:19:54 AM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: God luvs America

Precisely. Diebold is a favorite target of moonbats because I guess the company or some of its executives gave money to Republicans at some point? But regardless, they love to throw out conspiracy theories that Diebold machines are only hackable by Republicans and that they’re going to be used to “disenfranchise the poor” and steal elections.

Rats don’t need to hack voting machines to steal elections. They’ve been doing it since the days of paper ballots and mechanical machines.

}:-)4


9 posted on 09/27/2011 9:20:33 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: Clairity
Republicans should demand that these machines NOT be used.

Near as I can tell, Republicans had four years to close the open primaries hole and did nothing about it. I don't expect they have any more concern about this.

10 posted on 09/27/2011 9:20:45 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Clairity
Diebold voting machines can be hacked by remote control

Sorry, no wireless I/O on voting machines. But I do have it on good authority that dead voters can cast votes without ever leaving the cemetery.

11 posted on 09/27/2011 9:21:10 AM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Clairity

Gee. I can guarantee I can hack any computer-based device too if I have time to take it apart and install a wireless device in it. This video is dumb.


12 posted on 09/27/2011 9:21:40 AM PDT by MatD
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To: Clairity

We need a few things for an honest vote:

a paper ballot
a voter ID card
a purple thumb

citizens’ box seat gallery and video to watch throughout the entire process from signing in to counting ballots to delivery of ballots to tabulation of numbers at every level.

I will gladly allow the process to take a week to ensure a more honest result.


13 posted on 09/27/2011 9:24:05 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Clairity

Wonder if they will be more votes than voters?.


14 posted on 09/27/2011 9:24:19 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Dahoser
Near as I can tell, Republicans had four years to close the open primaries hole and did nothing about it. I don't expect they have any more concern about this.

The GOP spent the four years making "Kick Me" signs to stick on their own backs.

Would be funny...if the consequences weren't so tragic.

15 posted on 09/27/2011 9:25:52 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Clairity

You have it backwards. Ostupid and Co know they will lose and they are now setting up the excuses for the pending loss. By stating there is “no trace” of the hack they excuse themselves from having to provide any evidence.

I also find it hard to believe a security fix cannot be found which would absolutely stop a hack or would make it so difficult that it would take longer then the machines were actually on line to break in to them.


16 posted on 09/27/2011 9:27:33 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Clairity
Consider the source: Salon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Friedman

The BRAD BLOG

Friedman's blog covers voting rights and election integrity issues in the USA,[1][2] and a number of other subjects related to media reform and political corruption from a progressive standpoint.

His blog site is generally critical of Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold Election Systems),[3] ES&S, Sequoia Voting Systems and electronic voting in general.

Based on his advocacy at The BRAD BLOG and in other publications, he was invited to testify at the Election Assistance Commission's Voting Advocate Roundtable Discussion.[4] Friedman is a noted advocate of a return to paper balloting[5] and of the role of bloggers as journalists.[6] he has been described in the New York Times as “perhaps the most dogged critic of electronic voting machine technology in the blogosphere”.[7]

17 posted on 09/27/2011 9:31:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Clairity

***...can be hacked with just $10.50 in parts and an 8th grade science education,...***

Not to worry, folks, in all my life I’ve never known a liberal to understand 2nd grade science much less 8th grade science.


18 posted on 09/27/2011 9:31:48 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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To: Clairity

ditto.


19 posted on 09/27/2011 9:32:16 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: xzins
Agree with your suggestions. Our "instant results" society is used to voting sometime during the day and hearing the results by 8:00 that evening.

The counting process needs to be accurate, speed can take a back seat.

20 posted on 09/27/2011 9:33:13 AM PDT by ken in texas (Can't Afford a Tagline... send money.)
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To: Clairity
Electronic voting machines in my area also have printed paper ballots which are retained in the voting machines. Does the "no trace left behind" method include a big eraser or bottle of White Out to change that paper?
21 posted on 09/27/2011 9:35:00 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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To: Clairity
  A real voting machine is a piece of paper, a pencil and maybe a small ink pad. The voter simply connects the dots for his chosen candidates and signs the bottom of the ballot. A fingerprint could also be added to the ballot for extra security. Using a computer to do something as simple as placing a vote is ridiculous.
22 posted on 09/27/2011 9:35:02 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Clairity
Good response in Salon's comments section:
And yet Salon defends their own objection to voter IDs solely on the assertion that voter fraud 'never happens'
23 posted on 09/27/2011 9:36:14 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Clairity

Leaves no trace...this is certainly a convenient statement to be made for the benefit of whichever party loses.


24 posted on 09/27/2011 9:37:27 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Texas Fossil

Salon is only reporting it — the original data comes from Argonne National Laboratories Vulnerability Assessment Team.

http://www.ne.anl.gov/capabilities/vat/


25 posted on 09/27/2011 9:41:45 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

A lady in y Community, Not a Staunch Democrat, but a hysterical crazed Democrat died this week, but I am sure she will vote in the next election.


26 posted on 09/27/2011 9:42:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Maurice Tift
A fingerprint could also be added to the ballot for extra security.

Cardcheck writ large? No thank you.

I could go for a thumbprint reader as part of the sign-in process. On line real time comparison to thumbprints given the same day. Try to vote twice, go to jail.

27 posted on 09/27/2011 9:46:56 AM PDT by null and void (Day 979 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Maurice Tift

[ A real voting machine is a piece of paper, a pencil and maybe a small ink pad. The voter simply connects the dots for his chosen candidates and signs the bottom of the ballot. A fingerprint could also be added to the ballot for extra security. Using a computer to do something as simple as placing a vote is ridiculous. ]

Computers in voting should be used to scan the fingerprints on the vote cards and look for duplicates and then once you found the duplicates you find which ones are fradulent and search against the FBI database and once you find a match you persecute the SOB who fraudulently votes to the fullest extent of the law.

Voter fraud should be a felony because it is direct TREASON against the republic.


28 posted on 09/27/2011 9:48:47 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Clairity

Harris County’s Republican Leadership has voting machines that are tamper proof.


29 posted on 09/27/2011 9:49:07 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: null and void

How about using a postcard sized card that you vote on and then before it is placed inthe box you put a physical thumbprint on it in front of witnesses.

Then after the cards are counted the thumbprints are scanned into a computer and they are searched for duplicates. Then your voter investigators investigate those matches and NAIL the bastards who vote fraudulently.

I would even like something like a “voting receipt” that mails you back a sealed card that shows how your vote was entered and if it doesn’t match who you voted for you can alert the election investigators and they can check for fraud.

You could use multiple cards, for elections.

Blue for “National Elections” (president, senators and reps)
Red for “State Eelctions” (State Reps, state issues)
White for “Local Elections” (Mayor, city / county issues )


30 posted on 09/27/2011 9:55:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Clairity

Only a complete Moron would believe that These Electronic voting machines are not being manipulated in places. It is just so easy to do. It is the equivalent of rigging the ballot box.


31 posted on 09/27/2011 9:56:34 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Clairity

Sensationalist crap from the liberals at bradblog. For just 10.50 in parts you can solder up thousands of these MIM boards
and then insert them before an election and remove them after the election. Yeah right.

You don’t have to be smart to see through these leftist hacks, you just have to not be a fool.


32 posted on 09/27/2011 10:01:29 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Clairity

I am tired of our inability to build a secure electronic voting system. I’m also tired of our inability, or lack of will or desire, to build a secure voter verification system.

My right to vote is too valuable a thing, bought at too high a price, to devalue it so much with crappy machines that can’t accurately count my vote, and non-existant verification rules that allow others to vote multiple times, vote for other people, or vote when they have no right to do so.

My new rules for voting would be strict. Nobody votes without a passport or a special government citizenship verification. All votes will be printed at time of vote. The voter will be able to look at the paper, and then the paper will be put in a special locked box corresponding to the machine.

After each election, a random sampling of those boxes will be opened and hand-counted, and the results compared to the electronic box they correspond to. If ANY discrepancy is found, the entire election will be paper-counted. The paper can be designed so it can be scanned, but the scanners will be tested with the hand-counted ballots first to verify THEY have not been tampered with.

Further — each candidate will be allowed to provide their own scan-counter. And if the candidate scan-counter doesn’t match the official count for a particular box, all the votes in that box will be hand-counted.

It will slow down the process in close elections, but it has a great chance of being secure, and verifyable. Biggest problem — people forgetting to drop their votes into the box after reading them. But that’s a stupidity issue, and if you are too stupid to drop a paper in a box, I don’t think we will miss your vote.


33 posted on 09/27/2011 10:02:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Clairity
This attack reminds me of that Armenian Stop & Shop hack of a few years ago. You paid for your groceries with your debit card and watched your account drain away through ATMs all over the world.

Physical access is a risk to any voting system.

34 posted on 09/27/2011 10:03:37 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: GraceG

The whole point of secret ballots is that NO ONE knows how you voted, only THAT you voted.

Signing the ballot, thumb printing the ballot, pasting your photo on the ballot, etc. allows people who voted the “wrong” way to be punished.


35 posted on 09/27/2011 10:05:12 AM PDT by null and void (Day 979 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Clairity

The author, I believe, is a left wing crackpot who runs The Brad Blog. His nonsense is routinely spewed on sites like DU and it’s all a bunch of conspiracy drivel. What they believe is that Republicans have been stealing elections with electronic voting machines. They are certain of this and spread loopy conspiracy theories all over that Bush didn’t win Ohio in 2004, that the Republicans didn’t really win the midterms in 2002, etc, etc. Nothing this author says should be taken seriously. He’s a far left nutjob looking for ways to explain away Democrat election losses.


36 posted on 09/27/2011 10:10:46 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Maurice Tift

So, you’re not a big fan of secret ballots, eh?


37 posted on 09/27/2011 10:12:14 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Clairity
Won't even need to hack them. King Obama has at least 45% of the voters and probably can recruit the rest by just buying them.
38 posted on 09/27/2011 10:13:47 AM PDT by Logical me
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If the Dems can do it (manipulate the machines), then WE can do it. So let THEM worry about it. We’re smarter than they are, anyway.


39 posted on 09/27/2011 10:22:25 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Vaduz

You don’t have to wonder; I can guarrentee it.


40 posted on 09/27/2011 10:34:06 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Clairity

Couple this “remote vote rigging” with “media jamming (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2784414/posts)"; to symbiotically prove the fact that WE ALL LOVE OBAMA. WE ALL LOVE OBAMA. WE ALL LOVE OBAMA....

Maybe that has been the plan all along. No need to be for ALL the people when you have their votes already tallied.

When you’ve already labeled and belittled a huge amount of people.

How many times does anyone with even remotely similar opinions as the “Tea Party” have to hear “go to hell”, jokes from TV people, dismissive labeling by has-been Democrats like McCant, before the elite has dissed the whole country?

Who the heck haven’t they offended?

And in the vacuum of power that allows Obama Inc (featuring sensitive-author-murderer, Bill Ayers) to piss all over the furniture of the American House, it is not surprising that Obama Inc is going after a high-tech swindel/stealing of the vote.

So, they have to steal it.

I mean, non of us can even vote without the help of other people. We have to drive on the roads paid for by other people, we have to ahave the GOVERNMENT let us VOTE....


41 posted on 09/27/2011 10:41:23 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Clairity


42 posted on 09/27/2011 10:46:43 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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To: Clairity

>> A laboratory shows how an e-voting machine used by a third of all voters can be easily manipulated <<

We’re doomed! The Democrats will steal the election!!!

>> Voting machines ... can be hacked with just $10.50 in parts and an 8th grade science education, <<

Oh, never mind.


43 posted on 09/27/2011 10:47:31 AM PDT by dangus
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I hack people’s toasters regularly. Ever wonder why the same setting comes out burned half of the time, and under-cooked the other half of the time?

I’d explain how, but I’m off to steal socks....


44 posted on 09/27/2011 10:48:52 AM PDT by dangus
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I’d explain how, but I’m off to steal socks....

Phase 1: Steal Socks
Phase 2:
Phase 3: Profit!

45 posted on 09/27/2011 10:50:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hoodat

I’m guessing electrical interference might prevent votes from being cast?


46 posted on 09/27/2011 10:50:14 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dfwgator

You could be amazed at how much money you can make in the sock market.


47 posted on 09/27/2011 10:52:44 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Clairity

I am sure ACORN and the SEIU know all about how to do this and just in case have boxes of precast ballots ready just like they did to get Al Franken elected.


48 posted on 09/27/2011 10:56:43 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Clairity

You have to physically access the inner workings of the machine, attach an electronic device, keep the electronic device in place for the duration of the vote, and then remove it.


49 posted on 09/27/2011 10:56:52 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Clairity

I despise electronic voting that doesn’t keep physical, verifiable audit trails. This isn’t rocket science at all. That they would build voting machines without verifiable audit trails is, to me, a sure indication of fraudulent intent.


50 posted on 09/27/2011 11:03:54 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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