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Romney [Obama-lite] up in Florida 30% Romney, 24% Perry, 7% Cain-Sept. 22-25, 2011
Public Policy Polling ^ | 28th September 2011 | PPP Polling

Posted on 09/28/2011 2:07:36 PM PDT by shield

Rick Perry's led the Republican field in every Southern state that we've polled since he entered the Presidential race...until now. Mitt Romney continues to lead the way in Florida with 30% to 24% for Perry, 10% for Gingrich, 8% for Ron Paul, 7% for Herman Cain, 6% for Michele Bachmann, 3% for Jon Huntsman, 2% for Rick Santorum, and 1% for Gary Johnson.

Perry had a poor debate performance in Florida Thursday night and our results suggest that the negative coverage he received from that did hurt him some in the state. We started this poll on Thursday night before the debate and in those interviews the race was neck and neck with Romney at 33% and Perry at 31%. But in interviews done Friday-Sunday Romney's lead expanded to double digits at 29-19. More telling might be what happened to Perry's favorability numbers after the debate- on Thursday night he was at 63/23 with Florida Republicans. Friday-Sunday he was at 48/36. Perry's poor performance may or may not prove to be a game changer nationally but it definitely appears to have hurt his image in the key state where it occurred.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fl; florida; leftsdreamman; obamalite; ppp; yeahsureright
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To: TexasFreeper2009

For months...Bachmann was called a RINO,Perry was called a RINO.Cain was dismissed. We are suppose to wait on somebody that gets paid to be a 2012 commentator on her possible future competition and expect her to save us all? While Mitt Obamneycare moves in for the win?I don’t think so.Not I said the fly.

Screw RomneyCare!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2741018/posts


21 posted on 09/28/2011 2:31:55 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (PDS=someone that doesnt dream dates up of a Palin announcement;nor act as Palins campaign manager)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
From Wikipedia:
Public Policy Polling (PPP) is an American Democratic Party-affiliated polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina.[1][2][3] PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman and Democratic pollster Dean Debnam

Florida Freeper


22 posted on 09/28/2011 2:32:45 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: NavyCanDo
WRONGO...

Scientifically-conducted polls such as this one are the most accurate polls. Of course, party primary polls of any kind this early may bear little resemblance to the actual results, but that reflects how the opinion of the electorate is in flux.

As mentioned, internet polls and straw polls are utterly worthless.

The cheap manipulation BY the simple-minded is to believe polls that have results they like, and proclaim polls with results they don't like as "biased" or "rigged."

40 posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:42:06 PM by Strategerist

23 posted on 09/28/2011 2:33:41 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

It still seems a bit early, but I share your concerns.


24 posted on 09/28/2011 2:34:53 PM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: shield

“Scientifically-conducted polls such as this one are the most accurate polls.”

not saying straw polls are any better but this poll is as scientific as global warming


25 posted on 09/28/2011 2:35:32 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: ari-freedom

I know Perry can beat Obama...hands down.


26 posted on 09/28/2011 2:35:37 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I blame this on Bachmann, Santorum, and the deluded followers of Palin and Paul.

Rather heartless of them, LOL

All joking aside, I am a Cain supporter, but the race will ultimately come down to one conservative vs. one moderate, all primary battles do.

Whether that conservative is Cain or Palin or Perry, we shall see.

27 posted on 09/28/2011 2:35:54 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: ari-freedom

Be careful...don’t blow it off...Cain doesn’t have a chance this race since Perry got in is between Mittens and Perry. Hey my second choice has always been Cain always. I am just a realist...live in Texas and watched Perry...all the bias out there against him is mostly unfair and unfounded...hey, Perry has made mistakes...you bet ya’...I have been p*ssed at him plenty of times...but I trust this cotton dry dirt very poor farm boy much more than that NE elite who is a liberal with a R after his name.


28 posted on 09/28/2011 2:40:48 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Romney has only been attacked on ONE issue during the debates, Romneycare, and has gotten a free ride on every other single thing he has ever done, while we nit pick the most ridiculous stuff imaginable about Perry.

Nit Pick? Perry has a position on ILLEGAL ALIENS that is not acceptable to most conservatives.

He proves it each time he speaks about anything to do with the subject.

It is not a nit.

Since you are from Texas, maybe you agree that ILLEGAL ALIENS should have tax payer goodies, I disagree.

They should all be deported, and don't tell me it can't be done, it does take the right kind of leader to do it.

29 posted on 09/28/2011 2:42:15 PM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: TexasFreeper2009

On the thread about the Zogby poll that showed Cain in the lead, Perry supporters were jumping all over the place, telling Cain supporters that this poll didn’t mean anything and not to get too excited.

But Perry supporters fall into the pit of despair when a poll run by democrats, that includes LIBERALS, shows Romney in the lead.

So I’ll throw Perry supporters’ advice right back at cha:

Don’t get too excited.


30 posted on 09/28/2011 2:43:59 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Marie

I don’t knock the Perry supporters at all.Perry got in and screwed up, at least he got in and tried.To those that are diehard Palin supporters Reagan would be classified as a RINO’s he was a former dem,pro amnesty,that appealed to the moderates while holding true too conservative morals and values.I thought this is what Perry was.Can Perry better himself and his policies in another debate?There are Palin supporters that don’t like anybody but Palin and call anybody and everybody RINO’s.No politician has EVER done anything about immigration they all talk about it and do nothing.I think Cain would truly take action on everything. I think we all should say here I am rock you like a HermanCain!


31 posted on 09/28/2011 2:44:21 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (PDS=someone that doesnt dream dates up of a Palin announcement;nor act as Palins campaign manager)
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To: shield

Slick Willard vs. Slick Rick? I’ll take neither of these lifetime members of the Hair Club for Crony Capitalists.


32 posted on 09/28/2011 2:50:05 PM PDT by 83Vet4Life
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To: ari-freedom

I think Perry can beat Obama but I think Cain can clean his clock.Will the GOP allow Cain or will they try to shove Romney in?Romney is not the tea party in any way,shape or form.


33 posted on 09/28/2011 2:51:12 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (PDS=someone that doesnt dream dates up of a Palin announcement;nor act as Palins campaign manager)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I’m sorry, that’s too much - saying Perry is playing the “Reagan” part. And I’m not talking about his positions on various minor issues. I’m not committed to any candidate yet (I don’t want Romney either). But Reagan was far and away the most articulate candidate in that election, his presence and oratory blew everyone in the race...well, out of the race. He really was The Great Communicator.

The best you can say about Perry is that he has the same speaking and presence problems that plagued George W. Bush throughout his career.

Perry is not nimble or swift in debate or oratory - he doesn’t think well on the fly - so how can he possibly be compared to Reagan. It’s not his positions that bother me, it’s his demonstrated inability to run an effective campaign and be an effective presence or an effective speaker and thinker under intense pressure.

Right now he’s looking at the 2011 Fred Thompson Shooting-Star Award.


34 posted on 09/28/2011 2:53:51 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: 83Vet4Life

THEN ROMNEY IS YOUR MAN...go for it...Obama-lite...


35 posted on 09/28/2011 2:54:50 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: tirednvirginia; mikhailovich

Romney had illegals cutting his lawn at his mansion in Belmont, MA; he watched them! Milt then tried to deflect the heat on the issue by saying it was the landscaping company’s responsibility to make sure the workers were legal.

SOOOO, you’re the governor and don’t have the sense to know who’s working on your private property? And he’s going to secure the border? REALLY? HE DOESN’T EVEN DO IT AT HIS OWN HOME!!!

And then there’s that little RomneyCare thing that he headed up...you know, the predecessor to ObamaCare.

Perry ain’t perfect...but has he sat and watched illegals cut his lawn? Did he create the inspiration for ObamaCare?

Yeah, that Mitt’s great...just great...


36 posted on 09/28/2011 2:55:24 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (If not Perry, it's Romney. And if it's Romney, it's Obama.)
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To: Marie

[With that said, I agree with the Perry supporters that we need to destroy that establishment RINO Romney. I can’t stand that guy.]

Agree. I’ll never understand why Bachmann and Santorum didn’t shoot their bullets at Obama and RINO Romney instead of the guy who shared 95% of their positions. It would have made much more sense to take out the RINO first. The only thing that makes sense is that they were pursuing their own self-interest over that of the country.


37 posted on 09/28/2011 2:55:33 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

The point I was trying to make is it is laughable that Romney is being allowed to succeed in attacking Perry from the right.

Romney should be laughed off the stage anytime he attacks anyone on that stage from the right.


38 posted on 09/28/2011 2:58:24 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Clemenza; BobL; Liz; Virginia Ridgerunner; Impy; Dengar01; BillyBoy; South40

*Perrybot mass hysteria and whining ping*


39 posted on 09/28/2011 2:59:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Actually, we’re headed for a deadlocked convention.

I’ve running some numbers on the new GOP rules, and I don’t see a way anyone goes into the convention with 50% + 1 of delegates.

The GOP changed the rules for the primaries. All primaries held before April 1st (38 states) are proportional—no more winner take all.

Romney can’t get above the 30% mark, and I don’t think he ever will no matter how much money he spends.

Romney does have the skill to beat down any candidates that get into the race (as he’s doing with Perry) to ensure they don’t get out front either. I’m guessing Perry will also garner 30-40% of the vote, but not get over 50%.

So come April 1st, you’ll have 12 primaries left that allow winner take all (I’m not sure how many actually will be winner take all). Romney will have about 30% of the delegates, let’s be optimistic for Perry and give him 40% of the deletages, and the other 30% of the delegates will be scattered amoung various other candidates.

Even with the winner take all now in effect, these states are scattered all over the country, so it’s not likely either Perry or Romney will sweep them. Romney and Perry will likely split them up (and maybe 1 or 2 might go to another candidate). In any event, neither Romney or Perry can pick up enough delegates in the last 12 states to put them over 50%.

So we’ll go into the convention with nobody holding over 50% of the delegates. That is going to fun (he said sarcasticly).

Ron Paul could actually be a power player at the convention as will Tea Partiers.


40 posted on 09/28/2011 2:59:51 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Why Not Herman Cain?)
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