Supremes Deciding How Close Government Can Watch You

wnd.com ^ | Bob Unruh

[Iam1ru1-2]

The Obama administration says that it has the right to attach a GPS unit to your vehicle and watch where you go, with whom you meet, where your children visit friends, whether you go to church or a bar or a bank

[the invisib1e hand]

they already act like they own us. This is just a formality. And they sure know that, too.

[coloradan]

It’s high time to suggest that “public servants” disclose their real-time location, the contents of all their communications (mail, email, phone calls), bank balances, investments, major purchases, and of course address(es), phone number(s) and other such information. Because they’re here to serve us. What have they got to hide?

[Christian Engineer Mass]

>they already act like they own us

Interesting. Like zoo animals.

[microgood]

The government has argued that the 'attachment' of a GPS tracking device on the 'exterior' of the Jones' Jeep was at most a 'technical trespass,' and therefore, was neither a search nor a seizure within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment

Government Lawyers = Evil

[Psalm 144]

More like livestock.

[ThunderSleeps]

I find a GPS on my vehicle I'm going to do some one or more of the following...

• smash it with a hammer
• drive over it with a truck
• soak it in a bucket of water
• soak it in a bucket of water after introducing it to my DeWalt drill
• see if it is bullet proof
• see if it is vice-grip proof
• go to the gas station out just off the interstate, attach it to the first car I see with out of state plates
• sell it on eBay
• take it apart and turn it into a AM crystal radio
• take it onto the local military base, and leave it, see them try to get on base to retrieve it

Ok, seriously for a minute... That last idea brings up an interesting point. What if you work on a base where radio transmissions of any kind are prohibited? In the past I have worked on such a facility. Due to ordnance storage, no RF emissions were allowed, period. (you weren't allowed to have a lighter/flame source at all, and your cigarette lighter had to be removed and in the glove compartment. And yes, they could and would stop and search your vehicle, that was a condition of employment) A GPS tracker transmitting your position would not only be a violation of the regulation (a firing offense) but a genuine safety hazard.

[combat_boots]

Nice list. See that black dot? That is a protype, working RFID chip. Holographic, beautiful images. Little plastic, bandaid looking things stuck on cars. GPS. Cell phones. Anything metal. "Enemy of the State" wasn't just whistling "Dixie."

[UCANSEE2]

See that black dot? That is a protype, working RFID

Too bad they couldn't use this technology on those GUNS walked across the border.

[ThunderSleeps]

Are RFID jammer tags illegal? Yet?

[combat_boots]

Don’t know.

I do like the aluma wallet idea. The info in our magnetic strips and holographs is just an electron away from vast computer networks.

[bamahead]

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[KoRn]

About time to find another country, if this one isn’t going to be ‘fixed’. I suppose we could all move to Antarctica....

[Secret Agent Man]

If I inspect my car and see a gps unit on it I’m taking it off and destroying it. I would automatically assume evil intent and that thieves put it there so they’d know I was out of my house, in order to rob it without me there.

[Still Thinking]

The government’s position will be that tracking you while you’re already in public doesn’t qualify as surveillance because you have no “reasonable expectation” of privacy for things you do in public. This is reasonable to some extent
but to use it to justify this is an overreach, and here’s why: If you were being shadowed by a cop for 5 weeks, you’d know it, and “reasonable expectation” would indeed kick in because you wouldn’t do things you didn’t want him to see. In fact, a court might say having a cop shadow a guy for 5 weeks just trying to develop PC is overly intrusive anyway.

[Still Thinking]

If I inspect my car and see a gps unit on it I’m taking it off and destroying it. I would automatically assume evil intent and that thieves put it there so they’d know I was out of my house, in order to rob it without me there.

Or just remove it and leave it in the garage to give them disinformation. Why tip them off that their plot to snoop on you isn't working, whether we're talking about officially sanctioned crooks or the more mundane type?

[Jim Robinson]

FUBO!!

[Jack Hammer]

“The Obama administration says that it has the right to attach a GPS unit to your vehicle and watch where you go, with whom you meet, where your children visit friends, whether you go to church or a bar or a bank...”

While the electorate, by contrast, does NOT have the right to see the president’s high school or college diplomas, his birth certificate, or even his proof of citizenship.

The hypocrisy is so glaring it would shine the brass off a cannon.

But it’s clear that Americans are no longer citizens in their own country; they are little more than serf’s in Barry’s personal socialist crap hole.

[LibertarianInExile]

“While the electorate, by contrast, does NOT have the right to see the president’s high school or college diplomas, his birth certificate, or even his proof of citizenship.”

BTTT. And of course, in so many states, the public does cannot make the same argument when recording police behavior with a camera. God forbid someone tape a cop on the roadside and then use that “but he’s in public doing these things” in front of a judge when charged with “illegal recording” or “obstruction of justice” or some other crap.

[tbw2]

The irony of this discussion is how many people have GPS units in their cars. If the government gets its desired ruling, does it automatically gain access to the GPS data of those who already have GPS installed on their cars as well?