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Is the Tea Party Over?
New York Times ^ | 10/9/11 | Bill Keller

Posted on 10/09/2011 7:25:05 PM PDT by DRey

The latest Fox poll offered Republican voters a menu of 11 candidates and found...not only were voters scattered across the conservative landscape, but 1/4 of the Tea Party adherents sampled were still “not impressed” with anyone. It’s hard to impress a movement that only knows what it is against. Now, barring some wild twist of fate, there are two men standing: Mitt Romney, the methodical, thrill-free, ideologically elastic technocrat from Massachusetts, who has made himself the default nominee; and the last hope of the hard core, the Not Mitt: Rick Perry.

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...whatever you think of his deviations from Tea Party purity, they make some sense in the context of Texas. His decision to let children of illegal immigrants attend state colleges at the in-state tuition rate, which so scandalizes the zero-tolerance conservatives, is conventional bipartisan pragmatism in Texas. The logic is: if the federal government can’t keep illegals out, it’s not our fault, but we can at least steer them away from the welfare rolls or jails and into productive lives.

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In this race, Rick Perry is the Tea Party’s dream candidate, the one remaining figure who could translate a noisy backlash into serious power. If Rick Perry loses, the Tea Party will have missed the opportunity of a lifetime. If he wins, Perry being Perry, it’s not entirely clear whether he will appease its members, but my guess is he’ll try. “Rick Perry is the only candidate who would actually close down a cabinet department,” one longtime admirer told me, when I asked whether a President Perry would disappoint the Tea Party. “You would see a very happy base — at least for the first term.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: newyorkslimes; nyslimes; occupywallstreet; perry; projection; romney; silentmajority; teaparty; wehavejobs
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To: PaleoBob

I like peeking behind the liberal curtain from time to time. I find it informative. Sorry if you don’t agree.


41 posted on 10/09/2011 8:09:06 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Biggirl

To the freeper ‘craig’s list’ story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2790347/posts?page=103


42 posted on 10/09/2011 8:09:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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Is the NY TIMES still in business? I thought they went out with Zoot suits and raccoon coats.


43 posted on 10/09/2011 8:09:36 PM PDT by TheBigB (The revolution will not be tweeted.)
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To: cripplecreek
If the tea party doesn’t want to vote for St Rick its clearly dead. LOL

lol! So says the NYTimes and Perry's supporters.

44 posted on 10/09/2011 8:11:49 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: Jim Robinson; cripplecreek
We need to put an end to this.


45 posted on 10/09/2011 8:13:49 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: DRey

no.


46 posted on 10/09/2011 8:17:31 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: DRey

Who keeps reading this paper?


47 posted on 10/09/2011 8:20:30 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: DRey

There is no doubt that Ron Paul will stay in the race, taking 10+% or substantially more. Perry might not even last the year. Romney is a Northern RINO, Perry is a Southern RINO.

Ron Paul invented the tea party.


48 posted on 10/09/2011 8:21:07 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
"Ron Paul invented the tea party."

The hell you say.

49 posted on 10/09/2011 8:22:38 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
YA AIN’T SEEN NUTTIN’ YET!

What's a movement if it isn't being heard?

The current Occupy 'whatever' is the movement being heard, and the "tea party" is silent, as far as I can tell.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Those who scream the loudest, get the attention.

Right now, the perception is that, the tea party is no longer active, and that the "Occupy Wall Street" movement is how Americans feel right now.

Whether that's true or not doesn't matter. What matters is that, they're getting the attention, and the media is making sure that they get a lot of attention, and the people at home are being misled.

Astroturf or not, the "Occupy" movement is winning the argument right now.

The tea party is dormant and ineffective right now. The other side is winning the argument.
50 posted on 10/09/2011 8:22:38 PM PDT by adorno (<)
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To: pallis

Damned straight. The Tea Party is going to go into high gear for 2012. I am fine with Cain, Bachmann, Santorum. No to Rino Romney, or amnesty loving Perry.


51 posted on 10/09/2011 8:23:26 PM PDT by kgrif_Salinas
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To: DRey; All

Great thread. Thanks to all posters.

TEA (Taxed Enough Already) is NEVER over. Witness history. Our history.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


52 posted on 10/09/2011 8:24:06 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Jim Robinson

Liberals report as fact what they hope will come to be. Makes it pretty easy to see what is really upsetting them. Darn those pesky facts, they keep getting in the way of liberal fantasies.


53 posted on 10/09/2011 8:26:12 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: DRey

Flyover country peons and peasants keep getting in the way of their betters in the DC RinoCracy....


54 posted on 10/09/2011 8:30:11 PM PDT by mo
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To: DRey

I don’t think the tea party will be over just because there is not good Presidential candidate.

Just work to get conservatives in Congress, especially the Senate.

I will not vote for Romney, the RNC can stuff it.
If Romney is the nominee, the Republican party is finished IMO

I might (and I stress might) vote for Perry depending on running mate. Don’t like Perry much either, but at least it doesn’t seem like he is the RNC freeze dried candidate.

Most likely I’ll skip voting for President and just focus on Congressional, State and local races and try to get as many conservatives in as possible (and as many status quo Republican out as possible).


55 posted on 10/09/2011 8:30:49 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Jim Robinson

Indeed, they do wish. Sorry to inform the NY Times, but we’re busy trying to vet candidates and find replacements for those 23 soon to be vacant Democratic Senate seats.


56 posted on 10/09/2011 8:31:12 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: DRey

Frigging NYSlimes trying to pick out candidate again. FU NYT!


57 posted on 10/09/2011 8:31:30 PM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Abiding by the constitution automatically gives us limited government, lower taxes, less regulation, free market solutions, honest government (if we impeach/remove the crooks), and individual liberty! The constitution was designed to allow us to do all of that. We have failed to hold their feet to the fire.

Nailed it Jim. The Tea Party is for restoration of the Constitution.

58 posted on 10/09/2011 8:43:11 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: DRey

Nah....they are just brewing!


59 posted on 10/09/2011 8:53:24 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Milan Puskar: Forever a Mountaineer!)
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To: DRey

Just my thought but it seems as though the Democrat and MSM are itching for any sort of Tea Party protest that can bump up against the OWS and the ensuing violence can be blamed in the Tea Party. They also long to unleash the pent up violence of the union / Marxist coalition behind OWS.


60 posted on 10/09/2011 9:00:05 PM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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