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Copyright Law Challenged-Jimi Hendrix Invoked
Wall Street Journal ^ | OCTOBER 6, 2011 | JESS BRAVIN

Posted on 10/09/2011 8:43:41 PM PDT by Zilch

WASHINGTON—Supreme Court justices riffed on artists from Shostakovich to Jimi Hendrix in arguments Wednesday about whether Congress can grant copyrights to works by foreign authors never before protected in the U.S. . Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, defending the law, said it brought the U.S. into a convention that can protect American intellectual property abroad and amounted to "the price of admission to the international system." Several justices, however, doubted that taking books and music by long-dead authors out of the public domain could promote the "progress" the Constitution sought to spur through copyright. .

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: copyright; jimihendrix; publicdomain; scotus; solicitorgeneral; supremecourt
I guess the Solicitor General believes it is more important to be members of the International Club then to product the people via the Consitution.
1 posted on 10/09/2011 8:43:47 PM PDT by Zilch
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To: blam; Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Her love’s so heavy gonna make you stagger. Thanks Zilch.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 8:48:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Nice Jimi reference...;-)


3 posted on 10/09/2011 8:54:17 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SunkenCiv

She drinks the blood from the jagged edge...


4 posted on 10/09/2011 9:12:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Zilch; OldDeckHand; tired_old_conservative; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; ...
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

5 posted on 10/09/2011 9:19:26 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Zilch
Several justices, however, doubted that taking books and music by long-dead authors out of the public domain could promote the "progress" the Constitution sought to spur through copyright. .

It's a real pity they couldn't manage to express that same skepticism the laswt time copyright was extended retroactively to make sure Steamboat Willie never makes it into the public domain. I have zero respect for copyright on anything more than 30 years old.

6 posted on 10/09/2011 9:30:16 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Zilch

I’m surprised I agree with Google.


7 posted on 10/09/2011 9:36:17 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: zeugma
It's a real pity they couldn't manage to express that same skepticism the laswt time copyright was extended retroactively to make sure Steamboat Willie never makes it into the public domain. I have zero respect for copyright on anything more than 30 years old.

The Brothers Grimm's heirs should have sued Disney for the unauthorised use of Grimm fairy tales for several of Disney's animated movies and characters.

8 posted on 10/09/2011 9:39:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Zilch

Geez, Hendrix could hardly walk a straight line.


9 posted on 10/09/2011 10:01:34 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Geez, Hendrix could hardly walk a straight line.


He’s a genius, still ahead of his time.

Move over, Rover, and let Jimi take over!


10 posted on 10/09/2011 10:13:18 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Beelzebubba

LOL He could barely sit up; much less stand up.


11 posted on 10/09/2011 10:38:30 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Beelzebubba

It’s been 40 years, and there hasn’t been a vast improvement in guitaring, no clearly better guitarist than Hendrix.


12 posted on 10/09/2011 10:43:35 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Zilch

It would be nice of SCOTUS reasserted the importance of public domain after so many egregious copyright term extensions.


13 posted on 10/09/2011 11:02:30 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins in 2012.)
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To: truthfreedom
It’s been 40 years, and there hasn’t been a vast improvement in guitaring, no clearly better guitarist than Hendrix.

Clearly no greater legend than Hendrix. For the younger generation of guitarists, Hendrix is still at the head of the pantheon. I heard some boys auditioning the other day for a local group and they were clearly inspired by Hendrix.

14 posted on 10/10/2011 12:11:13 AM PDT by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: SunkenCiv
This may be the earliest version of Hey Joe there is. (I always think of Hendrix when I hear Hey Joe).

Love's version of Hey Joe

And finally and later (1966), The Byrds, Hey Joe using the words like the Love group.

15 posted on 10/10/2011 12:26:51 AM PDT by blam ((Deliberate Cruelty Is The Worst Of Human Offenses - Kenko))
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To: no-s

Hendrix was great, the best? Debatable for sure, unlike global warming. The first name that pops in my head Eric Johnson, throw in Ry Cooder, Randy Rhodes, Steve Vai. I could probably name 20 worth debating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IUoSTaD7aw&feature=related
speaks for self.


16 posted on 10/10/2011 12:28:45 AM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: enduserindy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgR8a7ADBrI&feature=related
when younger.


17 posted on 10/10/2011 12:31:42 AM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: enduserindy

Jeff Beck


18 posted on 10/10/2011 12:35:41 AM PDT by Chunga ("Woo hoo!! Palin/West 2012. Unbeatable!!" - Jim Robinson)
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To: enduserindy

thanks for the link. I know what you mean. However, Hendrix has mythologic proportion, so you just can’t make comparisons, heheh.


19 posted on 10/10/2011 12:41:26 AM PDT by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: freekitty
Army paratrooper, honorably discharged after he was injured in a jump. The man could make a guitar talk.
20 posted on 10/10/2011 2:44:41 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: blam

The Leaves also did it, and locally (to Grand Rapids), the Soul Benders.


21 posted on 10/10/2011 3:28:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rockrr; Windflier

“And thier [sic] weapons are shineing [sic] clean, but I’m not talking about planes, bombs, or guns, I’m talking about the Power of God and the New Rising Sun.”


22 posted on 10/10/2011 3:33:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; rockrr

Scuse me, while I kiss this guy!


23 posted on 10/10/2011 3:37:30 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: blam

Opps, that is the Leaves version... [blush]


24 posted on 10/10/2011 3:38:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

Jimi’s version of “Hey Joe” simply blew all the others away (no pun intended). It just works better as a slow song.


25 posted on 10/10/2011 4:01:05 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: org.whodat
Army paratrooper, honorably discharged after he was injured in a jump.

Do you have an authoritative source for that? I know a lot of people view Wikipedia with disdain, but it suggests that he was discharged basically because he didn't "fit in too well", and Hendrix told about getting injured in a jump.

The man could make a guitar talk.

Indeed, he was a master.

26 posted on 10/10/2011 5:38:56 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: zeugma
I have zero respect for copyright on anything more than 30 years old.

Ditto. Copyright law has been perverted to protect established interests. One more example of the crony capitalism that is ruining our nation.

27 posted on 10/10/2011 5:59:24 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: ken in texas
It is in his bio at the rock and roll hall of fame, there was another Hendrix's, in the Marines that got a bad discharge about the same time.
28 posted on 10/10/2011 7:27:12 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The Brothers Grimm's heirs should have sued Disney for the unauthorised use of Grimm fairy tales for several of Disney's animated movies and characters.

Indeed, Disney has reached deep in to the public domain for ideas quite often, yet it is somehow wrong when their works lose their copyright.

Crony capitalism has run rampant in this country for decades. One nation - of, by and for the corporate interests. It's why politicians go into the business as normal folk, but leave as multimillionaires.

29 posted on 10/10/2011 8:24:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: org.whodat

I thought he was great; but couldn’t keep away from the bad stuff.


30 posted on 10/10/2011 8:35:00 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

That is true, my nephew could play like that, he could play a song on a telephone key pad. Boy drunk himself to death.


31 posted on 10/10/2011 8:39:49 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: freekitty

Walking a straight line is not a necessary part for re-inventing the concept of rock and roll guitar playing. Watch his Monterrey Pop footage and watch any modern rock show, they’re still ripping him off. And that’s just his stage performance, listen to his later blues as he was moving away from the stunt guitar, amazing stuff.


32 posted on 10/10/2011 8:41:03 AM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: enduserindy

Vai was in this year’s Experience Hendrix tour. Doing the usual Steve Vai stuff. Neat shows, lots of good musicians working hard. Maybe a little too much emphasis on the stunt guitar, everybody forgets he was a bluesman too, but definitely fun.


33 posted on 10/10/2011 8:45:30 AM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: discostu

I know how good he was. Like Janis Joplin. why mess everything up by screwing yourself up.


34 posted on 10/10/2011 10:28:25 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: org.whodat

I am really sorry to hear that.


35 posted on 10/10/2011 10:29:38 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Maybe they can’t do the one without the other. The 27 Club is large and with a few exceptions quite talented. Some creative types just can’t seem to handle reality. OK some non-creative types have that problem too, but nobody ever notices them.


36 posted on 10/10/2011 10:44:32 AM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: discostu

Can’t you get high on your talent?


37 posted on 10/10/2011 10:54:47 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Apparently not. In general creative people are either driven by insecurity or ego. They either are desperately trying to prove to themselves they are worthy of anything good, or trying to prove to the world that anybody that has ever rejected them is an idiot. The former lead a self destructive life because they don’t care if they die, the later do it to prove they’re better than everyone else, both groups die young. Just makes me glad I’m not creative, seems to be healthier.


38 posted on 10/10/2011 11:04:10 AM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: discostu

Agree with you.


39 posted on 10/10/2011 11:20:25 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: org.whodat

Thanks for the clarification.


40 posted on 10/10/2011 12:28:24 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: zeugma
It's a real pity they couldn't manage to express that same skepticism the laswt time copyright was extended retroactively to make sure Steamboat Willie never makes it into the public domain. I have zero respect for copyright on anything more than 30 years old.

Steamboat Willies is now the studio logo for Walt Disney Animation Studios.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y_Vh6zH8q8

41 posted on 10/10/2011 12:37:37 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: enduserindy

I’d add Rory Gallagher - I’ll Remember - Taste Live 2/1/70.

Computers have gotten better, guitarists haven’t.


42 posted on 10/10/2011 1:28:44 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Larry Lucido

LOL!


43 posted on 10/10/2011 1:37:07 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Larry Lucido

Don’t let Francis hear you say that. ;’)


44 posted on 10/10/2011 3:35:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: zeugma
I have zero respect for copyright on anything more than 30 years old.

My objection to endless copyright extension isn't that it allows authors and their heirs to profit from their works for decades, but rather that it prevents public use of even those works whose authors no longer have any interest in them. If I had my druthers, there would be a fairly short automatic copyright term, which could be extended to a few decades by either labeling a work conspicuously with the copyright date, copyright holder, and a unique identification number, or by paying a fee and registering for an exception from the labeling requirement (the latter would primarily be used by publishers who inadvertently printed material with a deficient copyright notice). Copyright terms could be renewed beyond the initial few decades, but the cost of such renewal would increase with time (such that companies would only be inclined to renew copyrights on those works that were still generating revenue). If Disney wants to keep Steamboat Willie under copyright, fine with me--just don't block use and distribution of works which have long since been abandoned by their creators.

Suppose today's copyright rules are still in effect on Jan 1, 2100, and one finds in a box an interesting poem marked "Copyright James Smith 1980"; on-line searches for the work reveal nothing, and there's no particular way of identifying which of the millions of James Smiths who have been alive since 1980 might have written it. The work would be 120 years old in 2100, but under today's rules the work would be unpublishable even though it would likely be out of copyright. Absent some way of determining that the particular James Smith who wrote it died on or before Dec. 31, 2030, the work would for all practical purposes not enter the public domain until 70 years after the death of the last surviving James Smith who happened to be alive in 1980.

45 posted on 10/12/2011 5:00:50 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: zeugma

Good point


46 posted on 10/12/2011 5:09:19 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: zeugma

Good point


47 posted on 10/12/2011 5:09:26 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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