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Why won't Cain attack Romney? (vanity)

Posted on 10/11/2011 10:49:05 AM PDT by teg_76

After Palin, I've been leaning towards Cain. My only problem with him is that he's much more comfortable attacking Perry than Romney.

I'm no fan of the bumbling debator from Texas who says his base has no heart, but this cozying up to Romney by Cain is concerning.

Herman Cain remains my favorite, but he needs to show he's not running for VP. He needs to go after Romney on Romneycare tonight. If he doesn't, it may be time to look elsewhere.

The one thing Rick Perry has going for him is that he's shown he's not afraid to take it to Romney, something all of the other candidates have been hesitant to do.


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1 posted on 10/11/2011 10:49:14 AM PDT by teg_76
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To: teg_76

I’m only now becoming familiar with Cain so I can only guess.

I’ve long heard that Mitt has been the anointed one from the beginning. If true maybe the party bosses told Cain that his only real chance of the WH is a Romney Veep.

I hope I’m wrong of course.


2 posted on 10/11/2011 10:52:55 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Doesn't anyone love liberty anymore?)
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To: teg_76

He did go after Romney some last debate. You are right that he needs to go after him more.


3 posted on 10/11/2011 10:53:08 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: teg_76

That’s a pretty weak argument, teg_76. Omission doesn’t equal submission, or support for that matter.

“If he doesn’t, it may be time to look elsewhere.”

You’re basing your support on whether or not a candidate will be balanced in going after another candidate? What ever floats your boat, but I’d suggest broadening your scope.


4 posted on 10/11/2011 10:55:11 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: teg_76

I agree. Cain is currently my top choice by default, and although I certainly like him, I’ve found his unwillingness to criticize Romney... disconcerting. If he is just angling for a veep spot, I’ll lose a lot of respect I have for him.


5 posted on 10/11/2011 10:56:00 AM PDT by greene66
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To: teg_76

Has Rick’s ‘taking it to’ Romney gotten him anywhere? Except polling around where Michele Bachmann is?

A politician with a record full of red flags taking on another politician with a record full of disasters doesn’t help.

It seems that a whole lot of Perry supporters are trying to control the discussion and bait Herman Cain into doing something that he shouldn’t.


6 posted on 10/11/2011 10:56:10 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: teg_76

Christie became a non-entity to me after endorsing RINOmney.

Hopefully, Cain will rise to the occasion and attack the Republican Party’s Sponge Bob...er...Sponge Willy.

I’ll row a boat over the ocean to vote for Cain.

I’ll stay home and have a beer rather than vote for RINOmney.


7 posted on 10/11/2011 10:58:07 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: MichaelCorleone

Romney said yesterday that people should vote for him or Cain. Why would he do this? Because Cain is he most powerful weapon against Perry. Romney can’t beat Perry without Cain, but Romney CAN beat Cain. Cain has no infrastructure and no money. He’s on a book tour and VP bid. So in essence (and this really pisses off the Cain supporters), a vote for Cain is a vote for Romney.


8 posted on 10/11/2011 10:58:36 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: teg_76

ROmney is not the enemy. Democrats are..............Remember Reagan’s 11th Commandment.There was a reason for it......


9 posted on 10/11/2011 10:59:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: teg_76

According to Drudge -

Chris Christie to Endorse Mitt Romney Today

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Chris-Christie-Mitt-Romney-Endorse-GOP-Republicans-2012-131530343.html


10 posted on 10/11/2011 10:59:14 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: teg_76

Look there is a whole lot more about Perry other than attacking Romney. Texas was last in the recession [barry’s depression for the rest of the nation] first out. Jobs and Texas economy should be what moves you to Perry.


11 posted on 10/11/2011 11:00:04 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: teg_76

Here is a little quiz for y’all...

Who had the RACIST graffiti on their property...for years and needed to be called out on it????

Answer this question and you will have your answer...


12 posted on 10/11/2011 11:00:42 AM PDT by Fred (But we will never survive unless we get a little crazy)
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11th Commandment. Nice to see someone following it.


13 posted on 10/11/2011 11:01:22 AM PDT by vollmond (I'm an issues voter. If you're a Democrat, I've got issues.)
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To: teg_76

Romney is DOA. Cain knows this. Attacking Romney is a waste of breath. Romney is perceived as being another Kerry by most of the country. Romney was never a conservative and isn’t one now. The man is a fake.


14 posted on 10/11/2011 11:01:22 AM PDT by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: teg_76

He has...
http://www.google.com/m/search?source=android-home&client=ms-android-verizon&aq=f&oq=&aqi=-k0d0t0&fkt=61&fsdt=7359&cqt=&rst=&htf=&his=&maction=&q=%22cain+attacks+romneycare%22&flip=0


15 posted on 10/11/2011 11:01:30 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: teg_76
Why go negative and "attack" Romney while Ricardo's doing that full time? Not to mention Romney's record speaks for itself no matter how many times he tries to re-package and sugar coat it.

Cain's better off sticking to his simple and positive message - let the other guys slug it out in the mud.

16 posted on 10/11/2011 11:01:43 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DRey

Are you trying to say that Cain will be for Romney this time, what Huckabee was for McCain in 2008? Many say that without Huckabee - Romney would have won the nomination in 2008... But Huckabee split off the moral conservative base, leaving idiots and fools to vote for McCain and the who-knows-who voting for Romney (uneducated?).

So Romney is banking on Cain splitting the conservative vote with Perry - leaving him with the majority of votes.


17 posted on 10/11/2011 11:03:19 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: teg_76
"That dog won't hunt."

Cain, referring to Romneycare while standing next to Romney.

18 posted on 10/11/2011 11:03:30 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Fred

Did you get that “quiz” from Al Sharpton? No? might as well have.


19 posted on 10/11/2011 11:04:47 AM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: teg_76

he needs to pretend the others don’t exist, and promote his own proposals, give people a reason to vote for him (Cain). At this juncture, the press will give people enough reason to vote against any of them.


20 posted on 10/11/2011 11:05:05 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: TheBattman

Yes. But I’m not saying it. Romney is! He said it yesterday in NH. “Vote for me or Cain and you’ll be happy.”


21 posted on 10/11/2011 11:05:17 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: teg_76

Because Cain and Perry are vying for the same vote - the anti-Romney vote.

Once Cain solidifies that position, he will go after Romney.


22 posted on 10/11/2011 11:05:48 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: teg_76

Maybe there is no conspiracy. Maybe as a fellow business man Cain can relate to Romney. Romney and Cain have the most in common out of all the candidates. I think they compliment each other nicely.


23 posted on 10/11/2011 11:06:18 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Red Badger

ROmney is not the enemy. Democrats are..............Remember Reagan’s 11th Commandment.There was a reason for it......
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Amen. Attack Obama. Not Romney, Cain or Perry.

Cain is a businessman. It’s one of the reasons I like him. Romney is also a businessman. I would vote for Cain over Romney, but if Romney is the nominee, I will easily vote for him over Obama.


24 posted on 10/11/2011 11:06:39 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: DRey

“So in essence (and this really pisses off the Cain supporters), a vote for Cain is a vote for Romney.”

ROFLOL!

Funniest joke of the day thus far.

Yeah, believe that line, DRey. /s


25 posted on 10/11/2011 11:06:48 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: teg_76
So over taking him in the polls and soon passing him is not attacking him. Well why not, Cain is the only one in range of kicking Willard's as*. And is the only person that can take him out. Cain, can take Bachmann, Newt, santorium, as. A VP and kick obummer rear. Hell, he can even have Willard as his VP.
26 posted on 10/11/2011 11:06:56 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: teg_76

1) Cain as a conservative stands to gain the most per minute attacking Perry, since Perry has the most money and support.
2) Romney will never go above 25% anywhere but New England. He’s toast once more conservatives drop out.


27 posted on 10/11/2011 11:07:45 AM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: teg_76

Only problem is that is a myth. He has never attacked Perry.

What HAS happened is he has been asked some questions and answered them HONESTLY

Love the way Conservative whine about how politicians never tell the truth then get pissed off when Cain answers a question with a real answer, not a focus group tested spin answer.


28 posted on 10/11/2011 11:09:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Red Badger

ROmney is not the enemy. Democrats are..............Remember Reagan’s 11th Commandment.There was a reason for it......

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I am tired tired tired tired of Democrats running for the Republican nomination.


29 posted on 10/11/2011 11:09:51 AM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Cain won’t attack Romney because Romney is his Plan B.

At lest Romney was his Plan B, but if he actually gets real traction, he may try to fly on his own.

Another thing you might wonder about is his inexplicable vitriol against Perry, who — at least on the surface of what Cain says — is far more in line with Cain’s values than Romney.

It’s definitely something to wonder about ....


30 posted on 10/11/2011 11:10:13 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Check out my post history and you’ll see I’m no Perry supporter.


31 posted on 10/11/2011 11:10:35 AM PDT by teg_76
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To: MichaelCorleone

The only reason Perry is in the race is the GOP Establishment needs someone to split the Tea Party vote and hand the nod to Romney

Perry is Romney’s VP.


32 posted on 10/11/2011 11:11:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: teg_76

Sure, what Cain needs to do is take the little time he has in the debates and attack Romney. He needs to forget about telling people about himself and his plans, just attack Romney. Attack, attack, attack. /sarcasm

That’s worked great for Bachmann, didn’t it. She went after Perry, failed to make a case for herself, and sunk in the polls.

Herman Cain needs to tell people about Herman Cain—who he is, what he stands for, and what his plans are. At this point in time that should be job 1, 2, 3, & 4 for Cain.


33 posted on 10/11/2011 11:11:24 AM PDT by Brookhaven (999 Tax Calculator: http://goo.gl/AHsjH)
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To: vollmond

Can has gained attention by doing his job of going after the democrats, not wasting his time going after his GOP
competitors. In the end this is what will win the election,
rather than just the nomination.


34 posted on 10/11/2011 11:11:28 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: altura

Nonsense

The only reason Perry is in the race is the GOP Establishment needs someone to split the Tea Party vote and hand the nod to Romney

Perry is Romney’s VP.


35 posted on 10/11/2011 11:11:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Average Al

Can = Cain


36 posted on 10/11/2011 11:11:55 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: teg_76

I’m not voting for Perry and I’m not buying your bullflop about you not being a fan of Perry.


37 posted on 10/11/2011 11:12:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: DRey
Romney said yesterday that people should vote for him or Cain. Why would he do this? Because Cain is he most powerful weapon against Perry. Romney can’t beat Perry without Cain, but Romney CAN beat Cain. Cain has no infrastructure and no money. He’s on a book tour and VP bid. So in essence (and this really pisses off the Cain supporters), a vote for Cain is a vote for Romney.

Pretty much exactly how I see it as well. Hot Air had a good article about it yesterday as well. Romney is just hoping (and helping) Cain to knock Perry out, because Romney knows he can knock Herman out easily later on. Such a transparent strategy, but it is working well for Mitt.

38 posted on 10/11/2011 11:12:18 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Red Badger

I think Perry’s become the enemy to a lot of people around here.

Can’t figure out why.

The reasons they attach so much importance to are either mistaken or petty.


39 posted on 10/11/2011 11:12:38 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: teg_76

The way I see it... Perry is the only conservative trying to out Romney and his liberalism... In fact, he’s the only one, period...

And yet, so many of our fellow FReepers are trying to destroy Perry... Disgusting, IMHO.

Over one policy. Illegal immigration... When Romney is worse across the board.

Just WOW.


40 posted on 10/11/2011 11:13:14 AM PDT by NYC-Conserv (Back on FR after 2 Year Hiatus (though lurking throughout))
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To: teg_76

I don’t believe ‘ATTACKING A GOP CANDIDATE’ is in Herman Cain’s toolbox! He may disagree with another candidate’s stand on an issue, but that is NOT an attack! It is stating HIS stand on that issue.


41 posted on 10/11/2011 11:13:20 AM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain!)
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To: DRey

I see still lying about Cain. Romney never said any such thing.

The only reason Perry is in the race is the GOP Establishment needs someone to split the Tea Party vote and hand the nod to Romney

Perry is Romney’s VP.


42 posted on 10/11/2011 11:13:57 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: TheBattman

Admit it GOPbots


43 posted on 10/11/2011 11:14:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ROTB
I fail to see why anyone would be attacking Romney. As you pointed out his support is frozen at about 25%. None of the conservative candidates are going to peel away any of that support in the primary, so why try. And that is going to be a group a candidate is going to need in the general, so why pi$$ off another 25% of the Republicans?

I think Mr Cain probably realizes is the real fight is for the remaining 75%. Something that Perry and his merry band of eggheads haven't seemed to figure out yet.

44 posted on 10/11/2011 11:14:46 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: TheBattman

The only reason Perry is in the race is the GOP Establishment needs someone to split the Tea Party vote and hand the nod to Romney

Perry is Romney’s VP.


45 posted on 10/11/2011 11:15:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: cripplecreek

Read my post history and get back to me about me being a Perry fan.


46 posted on 10/11/2011 11:15:19 AM PDT by teg_76
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To: Fred

And who put his order of importance as: First America, then race, then conservativism? That would be the guy who race baited Perry.

The quickest way to sink Cain is for him and his supporters to play the race card. A successful corporate executive who has the background he has, is no victim of anyone.

By the way. Has Cain mentioned the racist black mobs attacking whites across the country? Would Perry be expected to denouce racist white mobs if they were running around he cities targeting blacks with beatings, robbery and and murder (lynching)?

Race bait. It’s nasty when it gets going.


47 posted on 10/11/2011 11:15:19 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Fred

Quiz. Who posts a dumb lie, and expects other folks to believe it?


48 posted on 10/11/2011 11:15:47 AM PDT by NYC-Conserv (Back on FR after 2 Year Hiatus (though lurking throughout))
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To: teg_76

Right now, he needs to become the top conservative. Then he can take on Romney. Let’s face it, Perry supporters and Cain supporters overlap in views far more than Cain and Romney supporters.


49 posted on 10/11/2011 11:15:47 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Amnesty (ie: Perry/Rubio) will be the final death blow to the United States of America.)
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To: shield

The only reason Perry is in the race is the GOP Establishment needs someone to split the Tea Party vote and hand the nod to Romney

Perry is Romney’s VP.


50 posted on 10/11/2011 11:16:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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