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Panetta: Additional military cuts 'nuts'
The Hill ^ | 10/12/11 | John T. Bennett

Posted on 10/12/2011 10:17:00 AM PDT by Libloather

Panetta: Additional military cuts 'nuts'
By John T. Bennett - 10/12/11 09:52 AM ET

The Army must maintain its counterterrorism expertise and rebuild its ability to go toe to toe with another large ground force — all while facing deep budget cuts, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Wednesday.

For a second day in a row, Panetta took a hard line against deeper military budget cuts than the $350 billion called for under the August debt deal. He called it "nuts" if $600 billion more in cuts were to be triggered if the congressional supercommittee fails to reach a deal on at least $1.2 trillion in cuts.

That second round of cuts would be a “doomsday mechanism” that would hinder national security, Panetta said.

The Pentagon chief warned that in past budget downturns following the ends of major conflicts, the military was “hollowed out.”

“We must never make that mistake again,” a passionate Panetta said to applause from the audience at the Association of the U.S. Army conference. “And it will not happen under my watch.”

The Pentagon contends the debt-deal agreement reached by the White House and congressional leaders would cut deeper than $350 billion, putting the total impact at around $460 billion.

Defense Department officials say the cuts must be measured against funding plans included in the military’s last long-term budget blueprint. The White House’s Office of Management and Budget used a different baseline to come up with the $350 billion figure, a DOD official said.

Some GOP congressional aides say the debt-deal legislation does not mandate anything. But Democratic sources say spending caps mean Pentagon cuts are necessary, and that White House and congressional negotiators agreed to the $350 billion figure, which will be enacted over a decade.

While Panetta and other Pentagon leaders say that first round of cuts will force the military to shed people, weapon programs and missions, they feel national security will not take a major hit.

“There is no question” that the military will have to get smaller to cut costs, Panetta said.

To that end, Army Chief of Staff Raymond Odierno told the same conference on Monday that he expects the service will dip from its current size of over 560,000 active-duty troops to below 520,000 troops as budgets shrink and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars wind down.

And on Tuesday, a top general said the Army’s weapons program and training accounts will likely be hit hardest.

“We can expect cuts of about $12 [billion] to $14 billion a year for the Army,” said Lt. Gen. Robert Lennox, deputy Army chief of staff.

With the ground service still heavily involved in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, “you can’t draw down people fast enough to offset those cuts,” Lennox said.

“We have to do our part,” Panetta said, urging the military services to avoid infighting and “parochialism” to preserve their respective budgets and favorite programs.

The Defense secretary called the Army the best fighting force in the world, and applauded the Army audience for making the service the best counterinsurgency force in U.S. history over the last 10 years.

The Army must keep those relatively new skills “because it’s likely we will be fighting terrorism … for a long time to come.”

But Panetta then fired a shot across the bow of nations like Iran and North Korea, which are pursuing nuclear weapons.

He also noted “rising powers” are building up their militaries, and that means the Army must get back to training for a large-scale conventional ground war.

The Defense chief called on the Army to revitalize training facilities to ensure it is ready for a fight against another big ground force.

Although Panetta never referred to a specific nation, the one most often associated in defense and foreign policy circles with the term “rising power” is China. The Asian giant is in the midst of a massive, yet secretive, military expansion.

The Defense secretary, his voice rising and echoing through a Washington Convention Center ballroom, said he wants an Army that can “decisively overwhelm any land force” that it might face down the road.

In describing the kind of Army he wants, Panetta quoted the famous Gen. George Patton: “An Army … that can hold an enemy by the nose and kick them in the ass.”

The audience, many wearing combat fatigues or Army dress uniforms, applauded loudly.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cuts; military; nuts; panetta

1 posted on 10/12/2011 10:17:10 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Obama wants the DoD cut by over a trillion anyway, and so do Senate Democrats.


2 posted on 10/12/2011 10:18:51 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Libloather

How about we cut those DAMNED entitlement programs?

Eliminate ANY AID for illegals?

And CUT the President’s and Congress’ salary and benefits FIRST?


3 posted on 10/12/2011 10:20:55 AM PDT by Levante
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To: Libloather
The Obama administration is using the threat of military spending cuts to hold the Republicans in congress hostage and force them to accept tax increases as part of the debt deal. They are essentially holding a gun to a kitten (the militarys) head and telling Republicans, vote for tax increases or we kill this kitten.
4 posted on 10/12/2011 10:22:30 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Libloather
"In describing the kind of Army he wants, Panetta quoted the famous Gen. George Patton: “An Army … that can hold an enemy by the nose and kick them in the ass.”

Patton would slap this leftist pissant for quoting him like that.

5 posted on 10/12/2011 10:25:49 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Thunder90

That will be pretty tough when their budget is less that 600 billion.


6 posted on 10/12/2011 10:34:58 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam

Obama said over a trillion dollars in cuts (1.2 trillion) over five years...


7 posted on 10/12/2011 10:54:49 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Libloather

It’s disquieting to hear a liberal worry about sufficient funding for the military.

Then again, it’s a kneejerk reaction for bureaucrats to protect their turf.

Defense cuts? Clinton and the USA got away with them.

Until September of 2001.


8 posted on 10/12/2011 11:04:01 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.....The days are long but the years are short.....)
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To: Libloather

From the article:
“To that end, Army Chief of Staff Raymond Odierno told the same conference on Monday that he expects the service will dip from its current size of over 560,000 active-duty troops to below 520,000 troops as budgets shrink and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars wind down.”

The DoJ has stated publicly, there are ‘at least’ 1 million active gang bangers in the US (900,000 gangs in urban areas and another 100K in prisions)

So, there are more gang bangers than we have Army troops - damn, that makes me feel realllll safe.


9 posted on 10/12/2011 3:01:06 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Libloather

From the article:
“To that end, Army Chief of Staff Raymond Odierno told the same conference on Monday that he expects the service will dip from its current size of over 560,000 active-duty troops to below 520,000 troops as budgets shrink and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars wind down.”

The DoJ has stated publicly, there are ‘at least’ 1 million active gang bangers in the US (900,000 bangers in 38,000 gangs in urban areas and another 100K in prisons)

So, there are more gang bangers than we have Army troops - damn, that makes me feel realllll safe.


10 posted on 10/12/2011 3:01:48 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: SaxxonWoods

And when Clinton was slashing the military budget, I bet Panetta was applauding and defending on TV.


11 posted on 10/12/2011 3:05:50 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Romney as president will just destroy the country slower than Obama.)
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