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Posted on 10/19/2011 6:40:27 AM PDT by Any Fate But Submission
One objective might be significant damage to a coal/oil fired plant that provides electricity to the Grid. How would they do that?
A simple example would be my electric tea pot at home. Every morning I fill the tea pot with water and turn it on. When the water comes to a boil, I turn it off and pour the water into a cup. My tea pot has a mechanical on-off switch but if I leave it on, the water boils out and the overheat safety switch automatically turns it off. If it was controlled by a computer a cyber attack could turn it on late at night and disable the safety switch such that the tea pot would destroy itself and maybe start a fire.
To get the control codes for key equipment they send a virus into the manufacturer who makes the equipment. They find out in which plants that particular equipment is installed and steal the codes to incorporate them into their attack. That is what the Israelis did to destroy centrifuges in Iran with the Stuxnet virus. This is what our enemies are doing right now, this very minute.
Back to our power plant. They now have codes to some of the operating systems/equipment of the power plant. One of the many things they could do is disable the pressure control systems and the safety “switches” as well as have the system show on the control panels that it is at a normal 3,000 psi when it is really way past 5,000 psi and explodes. By controlling the control system the operators of the plant would never know there was a problem until the explosion.
My tea pot can be replaced for $12 at Wal-Mart but replacement of a huge boiler might take 6 months or more. There would be no electricity from that plant until then.
Now, what if most, if not all, of the power plants in the USA were severely damaged simultaneously such that most of the USA was without electricity for months? Think about 6 months of life without water from the tap, heat, AC, lights, internet, computers, cell phones, 911, GPS, credit cards, ATM, refrigeration, stove/oven, gas stations (no cars, trucks, or trains), street lights, radio/tv, fire, police, and the stock market. Hospitals, etc. have perhaps 72 hours fuel for their emergency generators, then what? How much cash in your wallet because cc won't work?
98% of the population has less than 1 day of water on hand and less than 30 days of food on hand. What then? Desperation, panic, and starving mobs. Think the horror of death, destruction, rape, torture, murder, starvation and disease.
Don’t be a victim. Store a year’s supply of food per person and have access to an unlimited quantity of clean water. Oh yeah, be able to hide yourselves and your food from the starving mobs who will kill you for it.
Sleep well………. OK, maybe not so well, but you can sleep a whole lot better knowing your family will not starve. Remember, it is not about you, it is about your children and grandchildren who rely on you for your foresight and wisdom. Start today, right now, buy a shopping cart full of canned goods, rice, etc and develop a place to hide it. Keep it secret, very very secret. (If you store food secretly you do not have to feel foolish or embarrassed about storing food because no one else will know, so go ahead, its OK).
I agree, and by virtue of being spread apart, they will be the most vulnerable to attack. It’ll be just like the good ole days...people will end up grouping together and it will all start over again.
I looked up whether water from a new roof was safe to drink even after treatment and got mixed answers. I would love to know definitively.
The catch is, you still want that water supply to be dependable when it is an old roof as well. Bird poop and the like means a filtration system.
Some hunger wisdom from around the world:
• “Hunger is a poor advisor.”
• “Hunger is the best cook.”
• “Hunger sharpens anger.”
• “Hunger teaches many things.”
• “A hungry belly listens to no one.”
• “A hungry dog does not fear the stick.”
• “A hungry man has no conscience.”
• “A hungry populace listens to no reason nor cares for justice.”
• “Hunger and cold surrenders a man to his enemy.”
• “The drums of war are the drums of hunger.”
• “Enough is as good as a feast.”
• “At the working man’s house hunger looks in but dares not enter.”
• “Hunger knows no friend but its feeder.”
Definitely some filtration is in order, but you can divert the first part of the rain in order to “wash” the roof, then collect the remainder as good water.
This divert wouldn’t have to be manual if you set up your system right with a vertical divert tube that fills up with water for discard and the overflow going to your collector.
I would still want water when there was only a little rain, or a lot of built up “dirt”, algae, etc.
After living in Texas this past year, I would not consider rain water a dependable source of backup water.
My parents living in Ohio have had just the opposite experience this year.
There’s a book called “One Second After” which addresses this
Good book
If you do not live in a rural area, all is not lost, though - as long as one works at continually improving their position - something is better than nothing.
We live at the edge of the suburbs (small house on 1/3 acre) and have little "extra" cash, but have used what we have wisely and have continually "improved our position" a little at a time.
I agree that the burbs are definitely a lot better than in-town in an apt or condo.
I can’t go into detail, but it is much easier then you would think to take large portions of the electrical grid down, without “hacking”.You think ...
... our very fragile electrical grid.Overblown; attempt at spreading fear and disinformation.The 5 events?
Cyber attack: This could happen any time
1859 type solar flare: Only a matter of time
Post shows little actual knowledge of power delivery system operation.
There’s a book called “One Second After” which addresses thisIt made the author some bucks; practically all that was really 'good' about it ...Good book
Most of you ppl believe everything you're 'fed'.
We went over this stuff awhile back; here are some links:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2333665/posts?page=153#153
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2333665/posts?page=157#157
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2333665/posts?page=163#163
What an odd, mean attack on me for saying I liked a book.
What a loser you are.
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