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War with China? Illusions about the pacifying effects of trade go back more than a century.
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | October 19, 2011 | Jim Lacey

Posted on 10/19/2011 7:12:16 PM PDT by neverdem

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Russia, China hold Peace Mission 2009 joint exercise

The exercise involves about 3,000 Russian and Chinese servicemen, nearly 300 units of army military equipment and over 40 fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters. Photo: BMP-86A infantry fighting vehicles of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) of China.

http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090724/155604547.html
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[2009] Russia, China plan new joint military exercises

By MARTIN SIEFF, UPI Senior News Analyst
Published: March 26, 2009

WASHINGTON, March 26 (UPI) -- The continuing tensions over Russia's refusal to sell its state-of-the-art land warfare advanced weapons systems to China hasn't interrupted the rhythm of major joint military exercises between the two major land powers on the Eurasian landmass. The latest in the regular, biennial series of exercises between the two nations has been confirmed for this summer.

The next in the now well-established series of exercises called Peace Mission 2009 will be carried out in northeastern China, the Russian Defense Ministry announced March 18, according to a report carried by the RIA Novosti news agency.

The first bilateral Peace Mission maneuvers -- described at the time as counter-terrorism exercises -- were held in Russia and the eastern Chinese province of Shandong in August 2005. As we reported at that time, they were a lot bigger than mere counter-terrorism exercises. Warships, squadrons of combat aircraft and more than 10,000 troops were involved carrying out landings against hypothetically hostile shores. The maneuvers also involved large-scale paratroops drops. The scale and nature of those exercises suggested a trial run for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan with Russian support. ..."

http://www.upi.com/Security_Industry/2009/03/26/Russia_China_plan_new_joint_military_exercises/UPI-25021238094858/
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Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
August 17, 2007

CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.

"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.

Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.

The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.

Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
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War Games: Russia, China Grow Alliance
September 23, 2005

In foreign policy it’s critical to “know thine enemy.” So American policymakers should be aware that Russia and China are inching closer to identifying a common enemy — the United States.

The two would-be superpowers held unprecedented joint military exercises Aug. 18-25. Soothingly named “Peace Mission 2005,” the drills took place on the Shandong peninsula on the Yellow Sea, and included nearly 10,000 troops. Russian long-range bombers, the army, navy, air force, marine, airborne and logistics units from both countries were also involved.

Moscow and Beijing claim the maneuvers were aimed at combating terrorism, extremism and separatism (the last a veiled reference to Taiwan), but it’s clear they were an attempt to counter-balance American military might.

Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed092605a.cfm

21 posted on 10/20/2011 1:14:25 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.

U.S. Solar Panel Makers Say China Violated Trade Rules (What rules?)
ny times | 10/19/2011 | keith bradsher
Posted on 10/19/2011 7:06:53 PM PDT by tobyhill
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22 posted on 10/20/2011 3:21:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DManA
I am greatly amazed to see some dawning of weak support in the press for this position.It may be too late.

Competitive Trade is just another form of war.

Like strategic terrorism is another form of war.

Like pushing drugs into our country is another form of warfare.

Like sick popular music, movies, TV, etc. Is another for of warfare.

Like pushing Illegal immigrants up across the border is another form of war.
Think of Castro's 125,000 Marielitos pushed into Miami in 2 weeks.

We are at war with China now!

“Free” trade is the Nuke of Economic Warfare.

When Nixon went to China, William Buckley went along and noticed that everyone went around smiling all day.
What the Chinese people think about doing business is of no account to Peking who massacred the 60 million of their citizens who failed to smile all day..

Remember what happened to the Dodo birds that couldn't figure out that those sailors with clubs were their enemies.
They had lived in peace on their remote island so long they had lost their fear. Extinction came quickly.

Even Jim Lacey that wrote this article says,”With a little luck and a lot of skill, Chinese and American diplomats will peacefully navigate the predictably treacherous waters ahead.”

To the contrary, China is pursuing hegemony!

Backed by what will soon be the greatest military on earth, China is buying us.

23 posted on 10/20/2011 5:40:25 AM PDT by De La Marche (Suggestion for Debates)
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To: De La Marche
Remember what happened to the Dodo birds that couldn't figure out that those sailors with clubs were their enemies. They had lived in peace on their remote island so long they had lost their fear.

That's a real accurate comparison.

24 posted on 10/20/2011 5:48:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: decimon

Ol’ Scratch likes to mess round that kind o thinking.


25 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:29 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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