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Obama and the Sinaloa Cartel
To the Point News (with permission) ^ | 21 October 2011 | Dagny D' Anconia

Posted on 10/22/2011 2:35:55 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher

The evidence is mounting that the Fast and Furious gun giveaway was orchestrated and/or initiated from the top of the Obama administration. Forbes Magazine is calling it “Obama’s Watergate.” Are we to believe that they gave away enough guns to equip a small army of narcoterrorists out of a simple error? We would have to be pretty gullible to believe that.

We have to ask just what they intended to achieve by doing this. It was a truly extravagant gift to the Sinaloa Federation Cartel. It was not just expensive in tax dollars; it was expensive in political capital, and it was so close to the 2012 election.

People don’t give such expensive things away for nothing. The Obama people must have expected something in return.

Consider the fact that Eric Holder, the Attorney General, and the Obama Administration has a long and continuing pattern of giving gifts to the Sinaloa Cartel:

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The evidence is mounting that the Fast and Furious gun giveaway was orchestrated and/or initiated from the top of the Obama administration. Forbes Magazine is calling it “Obama’s Watergate.” Are we to believe that they gave away enough guns to equip a small army of narcoterrorists out of a simple error? We would have to be pretty gullible to believe that.

We have to ask just what they intended to achieve by doing this. It was a truly extravagant gift to the Sinaloa Federation Cartel. It was not just expensive in tax dollars; it was expensive in political capital, and it was so close to the 2012 election.

People don’t give such expensive things away for nothing. The Obama people must have expected something in return.

Consider the fact that Eric Holder, the Attorney General, and the Obama Administration has a long and continuing pattern of giving gifts to the Sinaloa Cartel:

Preserving Open Smuggling Routes: Remember when Arizona sought to enforce its own borders? Eric Holder sued to keep Arizona from identifying and arresting illegal immigrants. All of Mexican side of the border with Arizona is controlled by the Sinaloa Cartel. Their territory reaches from Texas to Arizona. Blocking Arizona’s border enforcement was a very generous gift for the smugglers of Sinaloa.

Just this July the Obama Administration signed a deal with Mexico to allow free access of Mexican trucks to American highways. That would certainly make it easier for Sinaloa to deliver drugs to multiple points in the American heartland. Trucks are set to roll from Mexico into the US without being searched within days. Even Democrat Teamster Jim Hoffa has fought against this. Thus the Obama Administration is selling out a vital part of its own base for the benefit of the Sinaloa cartel.

Removing “Legitimate” Competition: An even more striking favoritism has appeared concerning medical marijuana. Holder’s Justice Department has turned a blind eye to California medical marijuana production for over 2 years. Marijuana production has been a major growth industry in California since the legalization of medical marijuana. Hydroponic suppliers have been popping up all over, and warehouse owners are besieged from rental requests from growers. The industry is now up to 1.5 billion dollars and involves shipping to users in many states.

Not surprisingly, the IRS recently levied large taxes on growers, claiming that since growing marijuana is a federal crime, none of the business deductions related to production are deductible. It was a major new source of federal tax revenue. However a few weeks later, in a move that surprised Democrats nation-wide, Holder’s Justice Department ordered California growers to shut down in 45 days or have their assets and any real estate being used seized. Apparently both the IRS and the Justice Department were ordered to shut down the California marijuana industry regardless of the fiscal or political cost.

Marijuana users are major supporters of the Democrats and this was a shocking betrayal to them. It was also a major loss of tax revenue. It was, however, a great gift to the Sinaloa cartel. Mexican production of marijuana has more than doubled since 2005, with the Mexican Government reducing eradication efforts. The “legitimate” California marijuana industry was competition. (Hat tip: Arty)

Blocking Prosecution of Affiliated Gangs: The Justice Department’s head, Eric Holder, blocked prosecution of baton wielding Black Panthers for voter intimidation. The US Commission on Civil Rights wrote to Holder inquiring about the “broad culture of hostility to race-neutral enforcement of the civil rights laws; a pattern of harassment and intimidation against those who work on suits in which the defendants are racial minorities; and instructions from a political appointee that basic voting rights laws will not be enforced against racial minorities during this administration.” Having such a minority immunity policy from the top is a great advantage to criminal gangs who in turn work with or for the Sinaloa Cartel.

Holder also referred to African-Americans as “my people” in a press conference. Apparently Holder’s loyalties are more for minority gang members than the American people he was appointed to protect. We must ask who our Justice Department is really working for.

The Obama Administration was not the only one to do favors for Sinaloa. The Bush Administration was also very helpful. If anyone was aware of Sinaloa it would be a former governor of Texas. However, Bush infuriated his own base by allowing malicious prosecution of Border Patrol agents and making a deal with Sinaloa.

Immunity for Sinaloa Cartel members and Unreasonable Prosecution of Border Patrol Agents: The influence of Sinaloa Cartel was well known at the time of the prosecution of Ramos and Compean. The Federal prosecuting Attorney Johnny Sutton withheld evidence from the court to protect a drug trafficker and allowed him to take the Fifth in giving testimony against USBP agents at the trial. The Justice Department brought in another USBP Officer, Rene Sanchez, as a friend of the court as a character witness for the trafficker. It was absurd favoritism for a member of the Sinaloa cartel. The net effect was to intimidate all Border Patrol agents from doing their job. This was done the same year that DEA made a deal with the Sinaloa cartel to allow trafficking into the US in exchange for info on other cartels. (Hat Tip: MDA)

According to the President of Mexico when an illegal alien is discovered committing a criminal act, it is US policy to give them a free trip back to Mexico with no trial. Thus if any drug dealers of Sinaloa are caught, they are taken back to the Sinaloa controlled border of Arizona/Mexico and let go, no matter how many times they are caught doing illegal acts for Sinaloa or their criminal gang. They cannot hold or prosecute them in Mexico for crimes allegedly committed with no conviction in the US.

There was House testimony last week that ICE agents were ordered to let illegal aliens go if they do not have a prior criminal conviction. That includes potential terrorists without a record, or who carry no identification or false identification from “nations of interest” such as Iran. At least 28 in 2009 and 2001 were from Iran.

The Obama Administration has done a lot for the Sinaloa Cartel. What is this Sinaloa Cartel that owes so much to the policies of the Obama Administration?

Sinaloa is the most powerful drug cartel in not only Mexico, but the world. They have been accused of successfully corrupting the current Mexican government as evidenced by the low arrest numbers for Sinaloa members and the reduction in drug eradication efforts in Mexico. Their primary focus has been the United States, but their operations reach into 47 countries throughout the Americas and Europe.

They smuggle and distribute cocaine from Columbia, marijuana, methamphetamine and heroin into the US. Sinaloa transports cocaine from South America to Guatemala and through Mexico into the US to distribution cells in California, Arizona, Texas, Chicago, and New York. They have been branching out into people and gun smuggling as well. Sinaloa has worked primarily with the most ruthless gangs in the US: MS-13 and the Mexican Mafia. The gangs affiliated with Sinaloa alsoinclude more than half of the major gangs in the US: 18th Street, Black Guerilla Family, Gangster Disciples, Bloods, Florencia 13, Hells Angels, Latin Kings, Norteños, and the Sureños.

“In 2009, midlevel and retail drug distribution in the United States was dominated by more than 900,000 criminally active gang members representing approximately 20,000 street gangs in more than 2,500 cities. Mexican DTOs (Drug Trafficking Organizations) increased their cooperation with U.S.-based street and prison gangs to distribute drugs. In many areas, these gangs were using their alliances with Mexican DTOs to facilitate an expansion of their midlevel and retail drug distribution operations into more rural and suburban areas.”

According to the President of Mexico when an illegal alien is discovered committing a criminal act, it is US policy to give them a free trip back to Mexico with no trial. Thus if any drug dealers of Sinaloa are caught, they are taken back to the Sinaloa controlled Arizona/Mexico border and let go, no matter how many times they are caught doing illegal acts for Sinaloa or their criminal gang.

There was House testimony last week that ICE agents were ordered to let illegal aliens go if they do not have a prior criminal conviction. That includes potential terrorists without a record, or who carry no identification or false identification from “nations of interest” such as Iran. At least 28 in 2009 and 2001 were from Iran.

What favors might the Obama Administration expect for their investment? There are several things that are specialties for the Sinaloa Cartel. Consider the following hypothetical possibilities:

1) The most immediate payback would be for Sinaloa to help finance the DNC and Obama’s campaign for 2012. Since many of his 2008 big Wall Street donors are bailing, he may claim raising one billion from 50 million regular Americans sending $20 checks. If Sinaloa is underwriting Obama’s billion-dollar campaign it is easily laundered when the gov’t helps run the laundry. (Hat Tip: Jack) Remember that in 2008 Obama won in part due to many small and untraceable donations that appeared to be from outside the US.

2) Perhaps it is personal. There could simply be payoff for highly placed Obama officials. The amount of money available from the cartel is astounding. $378.4bn was found to be laundered by Wachovia alone. Furthermore, the Cartel is expert at laundering payments so it would be difficult to uncover. There could also be threats of violence against family and opportunities for blackmail of politicians. Sinaloa has both carrots and sticks to get what they want from individuals.

3) Enforcement and extortion are also potentially useful favors for the Obama officials. Need to discourage someone from running for office? Need to discourage someone from voting for a bill? Do the legislators have families they care about? Threats and actual violence expertise might be brought to bear, and with few detectable connections to the people ordering it. Just this week Vice President Biden threatened or warned that “Murder will continue to rise, rape will continue to rise, all crimes will continue to rise,” if the Democrats agenda isn’t passed. Perhaps he is right. At what point does a warning become a threat?

4) Criminal community organizing is something that could be useful. Organizing secure networks for criminal activity is something the cartel has decades of experience in. Acorn’s quasi-criminal activity is just the beginning of what is possible. Voter intimidation or election interference needed? No problemo. Is a riot needed? Having hundreds of thousands of violent and amoral criminals at one’s direction in American cities and suburbs could be useful.

To a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Similarly, every problem Obama has looks like a it needs a community organizing. Hundreds of thousands of organized violent criminals makes for a lot of community organization.

5) Smuggling Islamic terrorists over the borders is another speciality that could be useful in certain political scenarios. Hundreds of aliens from “special interest countries” including Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, and Pakistan are known to be smuggled across the border each year. Iran recently paidMexican drug cartels to assassinate the Saudi Ambassador to the US. A book celebrating suicidemartyrs was found in the desert along a smuggling route. (Hat tip: John in China.) There is always the argument that Obama wants to destroy America (or at least parts of America) from within by a concerted assault on our military effectiveness, economy, and culture. Enabling a drug cartel like Sinaloa would fit with that theory.

Giving favors to organized crime is not a recent invention of the Democrats. It is reminiscent of the Kennedy era, where JFK won Chicago via vote fraud, and both JFK and Bobby Kennedy (the US Attorney General at the time) were such good friends of Sam Giancana, the biggest Mafia godfather in Chicago, that Giancana allowed both to share one of his girlfriends. Why? Because the Justice Department was targeting Giancana’s mob competitors. This also is reminiscent of Al Capone’s Chicago operation. Capone paid the local Feds to go after his bootlegger competition while leaving his gang alone. (Hat tip: Skye)

One alternative theory has been floated about the Fast and Furious debacle is that it was a plot to increase gun violence and then get guns banned. That theory is easily dismissed. If the Obama Administration wanted to increase gun violence, all it would take is a call to the Black Panthers or other inner city gang contacts. They owe brother Obama a favor. It is far too easy for them or other similar groups to simply commit more gun violence. Furthermore, the guns of Fast and Furious and their related violence were primarily destined for Mexico, not America. The Second Amendment assault theory is not a reasonable explanation – especially when considered in context.

The simple and direct answer is that Fast and Furious was done by the Obama Administration, as an established pattern of behavior to assist the Sinaloa Cartel. The more difficult and interesting question is what gift in return does the Obama Administration get out of it. The Obama Administration is paying heavily by stabbing Democrat constituencies in the back right before an election. Thus the payback from Sinaloa is also likely to be before the election.

The Obama Administration has given high powered assault weapons and other guns to the largest drug cartel in the world. Holder’s Justice Department has sued to keep the US border with Sinaloa porous. Obama’s IRS and Justice Departments have shut down the legal competition to Sinaloa. Obama’s Administration has broadly blocked prosecution of the criminal gangs that are the affiliates of Sinaloa throughout the US. Obama’s Administration has made it easier for Sinaloa smuggling trucks to travel unimpeded and un-inspected throughout the US.

Plenty of guns, free travel of trucks across the border, legal immunity to members of the drug distribution system, IRS and DOJ attacks on their legitimate drug competitors, intimidation and humiliation of Border Patrol agents… What more could Sinaloa ask for? The Obama administration has given them everything they could need. What is the Obama Administration getting in return?

1 posted on 10/22/2011 2:35:56 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher
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To: helpfulresearcher

If you would like to read this with the links intact to substantiate the statements made, go to http://dagnyd.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/fast-and-furious-favors-2/ There is also a map there of the cartels.


2 posted on 10/22/2011 2:37:50 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Palin and Cain - Courageous leaders who can actually fire people and prosecute corruption!)
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To: helpfulresearcher

A lot of speculation here, but speculation I myself have had.

Of course the Fast & Furious Operation was launched by Obama. I don’t doubt that at all.Much of the other things mentioned here make sense and are logical.If you wonder why we are losing the war on drugs perhaps it is because we want to lose.If 348 Billion dollars was laundered by Wachovia why havent we read of white collar bankers being arrested and convicted. That isn’t peanuts. Somebody needs to go to jail for that.

It isn’t a surprise that the Holder Justice Department is crroked as a dog’s hind leg,and who appointed Holder?


3 posted on 10/22/2011 2:53:09 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: helpfulresearcher
Consider the fact that Eric Holder, the Attorney General, and the Obama Administration has a long and continuing pattern of giving gifts to the Sinaloa Cartel:

All of what you say is true. But the Obama administration hasn't restricted their services to the Sinaloa Cartel.

There is mounting evidence that Hillary's State Department has been busily running weapons (military hardware, in particular) to the Zetas -- via Honduras and via a front purchasing agency in Dallas.

Further, a third customer has recently been revealed -- employing straw purchasers under ATF surveillance in Indiana. This is how the makings for over 2,000 grenades ended up in the hands of La Familia de Michcoacana.

It seems apparent that the Obama administration has been arming virtually ever drug-smuggling operation in Mexico.

What isn't apparent is exactly what the intention was...

4 posted on 10/22/2011 2:56:06 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Unless a miracle occurs and Barry’s entire state run MSM starts pounding this into the skulls of Americans day in and day out in the same way that they sold “Watergate”, nobody is going to care. Barry is a commie ‘RAT so I’m not going to hold my breath waiting on the so called “media”. It’s not going to happen.


5 posted on 10/22/2011 2:58:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT MUST READ!


6 posted on 10/22/2011 3:01:12 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine; Jim Robinson; moder_ator

This seems very important to me. is there any way to get more people to see it?


7 posted on 10/22/2011 3:07:13 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Palin and Cain - Courageous leaders who can actually fire people and prosecute corruption!)
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To: helpfulresearcher

**Everything** listed done for Sinaloa is very well explained simply by the fact that they are Mexicans,,a core political constituency for the dems.

And no, i don’t believe for a second that the white house could give orders and have black panthers fill the streets with gun violence. They are sinister,, but not stupid.

If you give guns to the cartels, you don’t HAVE to give orders. They will simply do what they naturally do and start killing. I remind you, a year before this fast and furious, we started seeing a flood of news stories that Mexican gun violence could be laid squarely at the feet of American Gun shops. This was their attempt to have the lid blow off. If it came across the border,,,so much the better to kill the 2nd amendment.

This was nothing less, or more, than an all out attempt to kill the 2nd amendment. Everything else was to appease brown and black populations.

Obama is guilty of treason and should be removed from office immediately in disgrace. (if he recognizes such a concept)


8 posted on 10/22/2011 3:07:44 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: helpfulresearcher

I wuz gonna ask her if it would cool to post her article here.

Didn’t want to upset the boat.

Great investigation.


9 posted on 10/22/2011 3:08:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: helpfulresearcher
"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

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“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

More about State Department involvement...

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

Want to read even more about State Dept. involvement? ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.

10 posted on 10/22/2011 3:11:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Destabilize our southern border and allow violent drug terrorists to establish a beachhead in American cities.

I smell treason.

The democrat party needs to be declared a seditious organization. If we don’t clear this up soon, we will see a bloody war in this country. Get the 1stMarDiv and the 101st Airborne on our southern border now. Seal the entire border off, and I don’t care if we use a fence, landmines or machineguns. We are under invasion.


11 posted on 10/22/2011 3:14:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: helpfulresearcher

Oh! Sorry...I misread again. I thought this was about the Shineola Cartel. I screwed up badly!


12 posted on 10/22/2011 3:17:26 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: helpfulresearcher
U.S. Government Invokes National Security to Conceal Deal Cut with Mexican Drug Cartel
13 posted on 10/22/2011 3:22:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: helpfulresearcher

First of all, everything that is in this article has been being discussed here as well as other places, and although this article summarizes quite well PART of what is happening, it is only PART, (and might not actually be the BIGGEST part,) but is only the tip of the iceberg.
This involves major and multiple agencies of the fedgov and other ops maybe far worse and more sinister in other countries besides Mexico.


14 posted on 10/22/2011 3:58:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: helpfulresearcher
Don't forget this one:


15 posted on 10/22/2011 4:02:57 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: helpfulresearcher

bfl


16 posted on 10/22/2011 4:36:08 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: okie01

“What isn’t apparent is exactly what the intention was...”

If you research the “Reichstag Fire” and “Gleiwitz Incident” of the Nazis, the intention becomes crystal clear.

Both of those bogus operations were examples of how evil fascist regimes attempt to destroy their opposition by using nefarious conspiracies to sway public opinion to their side.


17 posted on 10/22/2011 4:37:51 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: helpfulresearcher
$378.4bn was found to be laundered by Wachovia alone.

Over a third of a trillion bucks???

That has to be a typo.

More likely $378.4 million.

Very sloppy.

18 posted on 10/22/2011 4:43:57 PM PDT by Blado (Herminate Bambi with Extreme Prejudice! Beat Bambi with a Cain! Yes, We Cain!)
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. . . . Check out article, then # 1 through # 18 .

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19 posted on 10/22/2011 5:09:05 PM PDT by LucyT
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If you research the “Reichstag Fire” and “Gleiwitz Incident” of the Nazis, the intention becomes crystal clear.

I'm familiar with both incidents. And we both know that Mssrs. Obama, Holder and Clinton are up to no good.

Undermining the 2nd Amendment was clearly an objective. But, the more extensive this becomes, the more I wonder what else were they about?

20 posted on 10/22/2011 5:17:01 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: helpfulresearcher
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21 posted on 10/22/2011 5:28:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: helpfulresearcher

FReepmail!


22 posted on 10/22/2011 5:29:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: helpfulresearcher
The Obama people must have expected something in return.

Little Barry moved up the ladder from his Choom Gang days to harder stuff. As he said, he's bringing guns to the fight.

23 posted on 10/22/2011 6:03:53 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: helpfulresearcher
Great thread! Whom ever put this obama/regime machine together really did their homework and really wants to destroy or control the country haven't figured it out yet.
24 posted on 10/22/2011 6:40:04 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: helpfulresearcher
Just holler Rush Limbaugh a lot and one of his researchers may find it lets hope so.
25 posted on 10/22/2011 6:42:53 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Blado; helpfulresearcher
Not content to limit themselves to cocaine, Mexico’s drug barons have also branched out into marijuana and methamphetamines, engaging in a brisk cross-border trade that earns them anywhere from 10 to 20 billion dollars every year. http://www.thefix.com/content/worlds-scariest-drug-lords

Experts say that cutting off operations that funnel illegal money into banks and other legitimate businesses is key to winning the country's bloody war against drug cartels. But the Mexican government, hampered by inefficient laws and few investigators, has seized less than 1 percent of the estimated annual $10 to $29 billion in drug profits moving through Mexico, despite recent measures such as strict limits on the use of U.S. dollars in cash. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/13/mexican-drug-money-laundering_n_861749.html

26 posted on 10/22/2011 7:01:12 PM PDT by NorwegianViking
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To: helpfulresearcher

BTTT for important info.

Wow. I do think increasing gun violence to restrict 2nd Amendment rights was part of the reaon, though. As well as other reasons.


27 posted on 10/22/2011 8:03:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Blado

” $378.4bn was found to be laundered by Wachovia alone.
Over a third of a trillion bucks???
That has to be a typo.
More likely $378.4 million.
Very sloppy.”

Check the original link to the source at dagnyd.wordpress.com . I had to triple check it. Billion.:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs

Guardian article title: “How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico’s murderous drug gangs”


28 posted on 10/22/2011 8:55:23 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Palin and Cain - Courageous leaders who can actually fire people and prosecute corruption!)
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To: helpfulresearcher

With the Sinaloa talent for corrupting people, can we trust our military (if they are ever sent) to seal the border?

I believe we can trust the troops but I’m not so sure about the generals.

I get the feeling that the hard-charging, fire-eating generals of the past have all been replaced by bookish “get along” types who are only interested in their own careers and kissing the right butts.

Hopefully I’m wrong and we can assign our border security to another Blackjack Pershing with George Patton as one of his lieutenants. But we need to seal the border, forcefully ... NOW!


29 posted on 10/22/2011 9:57:01 PM PDT by DNME (We need new Sons of Liberty and their knack for civil disobedience.)
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Yup, not a typo. Went to the link and read it. I am speachless. The sums involved are astronomical... 1/3 of a trillion dollars is coincidentally 1/3 of the GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT OF MEXICO. I suppose most or all of that money came from US citizens buying drugs?

“This is the biggest money-laundering scandal of our time.”


30 posted on 10/22/2011 10:17:48 PM PDT by Blado (Herminate Bambi with Extreme Prejudice! Beat Bambi with a Cain! Yes, We Cain!)
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To: helpfulresearcher
There's no motive here.

One can get a much BIGGER payoff from Goldman Sachs, B of A and the SEIU.

The drug cartels are chump change in comparison.

31 posted on 10/22/2011 11:10:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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No motive EXCEPT maybe the political motive of Gun Control.


32 posted on 10/22/2011 11:22:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DNME

“I believe we can trust the troops but I’m not so sure about the generals.”

Oh, I’m quite sure about them. The warriors have been weeded out long ago. Successful brass are basically politicians now, and success for them entails playing the game to protect their prestige and their pensions, not their country.

Exactly what unconditional surrenders have we seen the brass preside over since WWII? They are not true believers, mind you, but most certainly they are useful idiots, enabling the undermining of our safety and our sovereignty to please our would-be tyrants.


33 posted on 10/22/2011 11:50:39 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: helpfulresearcher

This is a major league piece of work done by of course the British press, again. You would think Wachovia might have gotten suspicious after 6-7,000 subpoenas!! <P.?
The whistle blower at Wachovia,Woods was all but destroyed by his own company especially the Carribean handlers of(drug money) in Miami of all places—I’m shocked.(not really—its been a hell hole for years now.)
The British Press may save the country,if its savable.


34 posted on 10/23/2011 3:00:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Also an interesting piece on Sipsey Street Irregulars over stuff to come.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/10/where-we-are-with-gunwalker-and-why-im.html

We are in a world of trouble....


35 posted on 10/23/2011 7:54:04 AM PDT by bergmeid (Keep the Hope and Change)
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To: maggief; helpfulresearcher; All

Thanks for your post #43 in the 2826659 (Immunity Deal Between U.S. and Sinaloa Cartel) thread linking to this thread, maggief. Thanks for all the links in post #43. Very good post, helpfulresearcher. Thanks to all posters, linkers, educators, patriots, researchers.


36 posted on 12/30/2011 8:51:11 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Here’s that link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2826659/posts?page=43#43


37 posted on 12/30/2011 9:47:04 AM PST by maggief
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To: helpfulresearcher
Do I believe this?
Do I believe that the Cocaine Cartel has the power to influence the US Government at its highest levels?

...yes.
38 posted on 06/21/2012 5:32:34 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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