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Desperation: The High Tech Lynching of Uppity Herman Cain Begins
Real Feminist ^ | 10-31-2011 | Sheri Urban

Posted on 10/30/2011 8:18:34 PM PDT by montag813

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To: dps.inspect

Whorealdo lived up to his name. He was despicable. The story barely broke and he was fueling the fire, blowing it up as some huge story. Totally irresponsible. He should be reprimanded by Fox. He’s obviously a “racist”.


201 posted on 10/31/2011 4:05:59 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Vaquero

RACISM (according to the LEFT)

Racism is, middle to upper class Whites condemning LEFTIST blacks, hispanics, musims, etc.

Jim Crow southern Dhimmicrats are NOT RACIST.


202 posted on 10/31/2011 4:09:11 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: montag813
Whenever Team Romney had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonathan Martin has been their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.

“And The Most Irresponsible Journalist Award Goes to The Politico’s Jonathan Martin!
So tell me, how do you write a “news” story about an organization paying for a speaker when you don’t even know if the organization is paying for the speaker?
Ask “journalist” Jonathan Martin. He knows all about it.
You see, Jonny wrote a piss poor story the other day about how the Iowa Family Policy Center will be paying a large speaker fee if Sarah Palin comes to Iowa to keynote the IFPC’s fall funderaiser.
The only problem is that Jonny has no sources confirming that any exorbitant fee is being charged or paid.
Jonny also got some inside info from David Kochel, who was a top aide to former (and future) presidential candidate, Mitt Romney.
Hey Dave, didn’t I just read a story about how Mitt Romney tried to buy off the Iowa Christian Alliance?
I heard you helped facilitate that little scheme. And somehow you are shocked at the thought of a well-known political figure (who very likely isn’t running for president) getting paid a speaker’s fee for (gasp) a public speaking appearance? ..
and then we’ve got Tim Albrecht quoted. He was the Iowa spokesman for Romney’s 2008 caucus campaign.”
And it always seemed like, whenever the Romney people had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonny was their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.

203 posted on 10/31/2011 4:11:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: sheik yerbouty

I agree. It came out after the report that he was in a dead heat in Iowa with Romney.


204 posted on 10/31/2011 4:20:21 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Dengar01
You make a lot of assumptions there, Mr/Ms.Ill.

You just insulted the second most FReeper populated state in the Union.

Until you walk in our boots,[dealt with the problems we face as a border state] don't group everyone into a single skillet with your off-the-wall and barely legible posts.

If I hear one more (supposed) FReeper indict the entire state of Texas,(just because Perry is running or some problem you had with former presidents) I'm gonna scream bloody murder. It's uncalled for! It's uncouth! And it's PERSONAL!

205 posted on 10/31/2011 4:42:46 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
If, say, Herman Cain becomes the POTUS candidate for the GOP and selects Marco Rubio for his VP running mate, he devastates, massively defeats Obama at the polls, come November, 2012. But, he also, and more importantly dismantles the current Democrat Party, who, IMHO will suffer massive political losses at the ballot box. Mr. Cains election would be anothe massive change in American direction and politics. Coupled with the votes of Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, other minorities, etc., Mr. Cain and Mr. Rubio will destroy the very fabric of “special groups” that hold the Democrat Party in power.

Don't forget, another herd of sacred cows that would suffer from a Cain victory are all the RINO media experts like Karl Rove (Romney's pool boy). For the first time in his miserable, pathetic life, Rove would be on the outside looking in at a Republican administration. Which makes me strongly believe that this smear came directly from Tokyo Rove.

206 posted on 10/31/2011 4:43:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: montag813

Might be time to trot out Larry Sinclair and put his story in a prime time campaign ad.


207 posted on 10/31/2011 4:43:28 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: montag813

Might be time to trot out Larry Sinclair and put his story in a prime time campaign ad.


208 posted on 10/31/2011 4:46:29 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: dps.inspect

Let’s talk about Obama’s homosexuality! He was accused by one guy of soliciting and actually carrying through on it. It has been common knowledge that Obama frequented the gay community years ago with one night stands. Why wasn’t that ever investigated? Why does Obama always get a pass with the liberal media and Cain have to answer? Sexual harrassment is not the same as sexual activity. We’ll see how “fair and balanced” the MSM really is.


209 posted on 10/31/2011 4:47:53 AM PDT by sgfan1212
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To: montag813
Same old tired RACIST liberal playbook. Damn the hypocrisy of these liberal a**hats stink to high heaven.

Hello? How did Whorealdo and the leftist media treat allegations about Bill Clinton?

This is a circus. It’s a national disgrace [yea, I mean you Biden]. It’s a high-tech lynching for uppity Blacks, who in any way deign to think for themselves. And it is a message, that unless you kowtow to the old order, you will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured … by a committee of the U.S. Senate rather than hung from a tree.

210 posted on 10/31/2011 4:47:57 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: dps.inspect

I really really loathe Geraldo. And the morons over at Politico, non-journalists. This sounds like another Anita Hill-type non-story. Unreal.

I’m thankful Sarah spoke out already on this guy...turn the tasbles right back at them, their credibility is dust.


211 posted on 10/31/2011 4:49:02 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: montag813

OCTOBER SURPRISE!!!

(Except that it’s still 2011!)


212 posted on 10/31/2011 4:49:50 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: sheik yerbouty

“The fact that this happened so early points to Romney.”


Right. And the left-wing media loves the GOP so much, they wouldn’t say it was him. Or Rove.


213 posted on 10/31/2011 4:53:49 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: MEG33
Just can’t get why all this enmity toward Texas..This isn’t the first time I’ve seen it.

Hey Meg, I've always attributed it to Texas envy. :-)

Not a Texan myself, but I've learned to live with the fickle finger of fate...

214 posted on 10/31/2011 5:02:52 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

Just two?!

That's pretty good. I hope they don't ask around about me.

215 posted on 10/31/2011 5:03:49 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: sheik yerbouty; Diogenesis; chessplayer
The fact that this happened so early points to Romney.

Exactly. This is a primary "October Surprise". And this is the backstabber TeamRomney MO and hired henchman at Pollute_ico.

Here was the Backstabber TeamRomney (Jonathan Martin, Burns, Haberman) hit piece on Gov. Perry last week.

If you see anything written by these three on Pollute_ico, it came straight from the Romney campaign.

216 posted on 10/31/2011 5:04:47 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Diogenesis

Sarah Palin Calls Cain Hit-Piece Article JournoList Martin a "Punk" on Beck Show (Rewind)

Love this lady.

217 posted on 10/31/2011 5:10:38 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: montag813
I am going to post this and all of you can take it for whatever it is worth.

Based on the age of the allegations, it was very commonplace twenty years ago, for attorneys to ‘settle’ allegations of sexual harassment whether or not they were true.

I personally witnessed several male managers be smeared by such allegations. The women would make charges, often through the EEOC, and it was cheaper to go through the EEOC process than full court proceedings. The women would ‘get some sort of settlement,’ and then leave the company. The company would settle on the basis of financial reasons and expediency. Often times those settlements did not contain any admission of guilt on the part of the accused or company.

218 posted on 10/31/2011 5:15:05 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: montag813

Politico is pushing this story on morning Joe. They have him guilty, very upset Cain is not cooperating with their story.


219 posted on 10/31/2011 5:16:46 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: mylife

You’re a lowlife Perry troll to go along with this hatchet job.


220 posted on 10/31/2011 5:19:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: montag813

So now they are going to lie and create unsubstantiated claims in order to smear him. My God the fear is palpable.


221 posted on 10/31/2011 5:26:18 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: eyedigress

Your right he is a hero to the GOP, or at least the Tea party.

I always find it both amusing and troubling when some one is accused of being an uncle tom. Uncle Tom was the hero in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s Book “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”. Simon Legree was the villain but is anyone ever accused of being a Simon Legree, NOOO!


222 posted on 10/31/2011 5:26:34 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: montag813

The attack by Politico is blatant racism. Black men have historically been characterized - unfairly - as abusers of women. This is racial stereotyping, pure & simple. Furthermore, everybody knows black men get a pass on any perceived abuse of “bitches & hos”.

Cain is the only black candidate in a race with 8 white candidates. Clearly Politico wants the black guy to lose, & they do NOT want to choose between a black guy & a half black in Nov. 2012. The racist Left is showing its true colors once again!

Hey, if this was an attack on a black Rat candidate, this is exactly what the Left would be saying. The Rats believe the “race card” is completely legitimate, so let’s play it often & with gusto.


223 posted on 10/31/2011 5:29:07 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: mylife

“Cain would never use innuendo, like “the fence will KILL YOU”

It surprises me that you can spell “innuendo” since you clearly have no grasp of it’s definition.


224 posted on 10/31/2011 5:29:37 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: montag813

PUCK FOLITICO!


225 posted on 10/31/2011 5:31:41 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: montag813

Its the Democrat way.

This is how they maintain the Power to Rule over us.

If this is to be a scorched earth campaign then so be it.

Let their attempted media coup take place.

America may never be the same again because people will revolt.


226 posted on 10/31/2011 5:37:02 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: mylife

it’s not the truth of the matter, but the seriousness of the charges...all that matters to the presstitutes.


227 posted on 10/31/2011 5:38:53 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: montag813

And h-e-e-e-e-re we go. The requisite “serious charge” against Cain. Invent something and force Cain to dig his way out.

Many of us here in FR predicted this very charge would occur. Watch for more... the Left is now signaling its genuine worry about him.


228 posted on 10/31/2011 5:40:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: COBOL2Java; MEG33

It’s got mostly to do with the previous President and his un-conservative ways. He was a former Texas governor, soft-on-illegals RINO that couldn’t speak except for when he was calling the Minutemen names.

To many folks, that sounds like a current candidate running for the nomination. Personally, I love Texas. Spent a year of my life there. El Paso, San Antonio....gorgeous.

It’s your governors that make horrible Presidents.


229 posted on 10/31/2011 5:41:15 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: montag813

Totally agree with this piece. This was my sense when i heard about it last night.


230 posted on 10/31/2011 5:43:53 AM PDT by sauropod (William Kristol does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: oldbrowser

You think that Tokyo Rove isn’t above doing something like this?

Review what he did to Christine O’Donnell.


231 posted on 10/31/2011 5:45:58 AM PDT by sauropod (William Kristol does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: Rennes Templar

Easy to make accusations when you don’t have to back them up.


232 posted on 10/31/2011 5:52:14 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: montag813
I witnessed two different women, in the 90’s, use these sexual harassment laws to further their career. I was unfair, and as far as I know didn't’ work our for them. But now I am always skeptical with these type of stories. Just like any stories about racism, Ive seen too many ridiculous petty claims to take any of it seriously.
233 posted on 10/31/2011 5:59:31 AM PDT by Lets Be Frank
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To: Lets Be Frank

IT was unfair...not I. Oops.


234 posted on 10/31/2011 6:01:42 AM PDT by Lets Be Frank
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To: kingattax

I see the Left is up to their usual lies. Take what they do(Clinton is an example)and blame it on an innocent person. Wonder how they bribed these two women?


235 posted on 10/31/2011 6:07:17 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

So this is a Rino affair too. This is why these people have to go.


236 posted on 10/31/2011 6:08:41 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: wolfcreek

Well you’ve got to admit he made some good points. And he didn’t even mention college tuition for illegals.

I don’t write the whole state off as he does, but I would say you need a real conservative in there to reverse the tide of Mexican influence.


237 posted on 10/31/2011 6:24:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Fast & Furious: Holder gone by the end of the year.)
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To: montag813

I watched Geraldo last night and he nearly needed an oxygen tank to sustain breathing he was so excited.

He presented it as a faith accompli although Ann Coulter clearly spelled out that there was no touching, no sex, no anything really except a suggestion that some females had said he used “inappropriate language.” That could be anything from calling them “honey” up to their being in the presence of a slightly suggestive joke.

Geraldo then went after Cain’s campaign manager trying to force him to answer the question: “Did the restaurant association ever pay settlement money?” The campaign manager clearly wanted to talk about the smear and refused to answer that particular question about payments.

First, Cain might well have never even heard of any settlement organizations sometimes pay just to avoid time in court. Those things happen. The campaign manager finally agreed that Cain had no idea what the association might or might not have done.

Second, why wasn’t Geraldo asking, “Did Cain commit some act of using inappropriate language?”

Because the campaign manager could easily have denied that.

Then supposed crack lawyer, Lis Wiehl, got all excited because the campaign manager wouldn’t answer such an easy question as “did some payment get made”. How she couldn’t see through the set-up defies logic, since I’m no lawyer and I saw through it immediately.

Say that some settlement had been made. Say it had been paid to avoid a bogus charge and huge expense in time and lawyers. How do you years later answer “was it paid” on national TV and not get bludgeoned to death with the appearance of wrong when all that had happened was the use of “honey” or a compliment on “appearance” or something totally innocuous except to a gold-digger feminist looking for a chance to make cash off of an executive.

I’ve not been a great supporter of Cain, but I’m backing him to the hilt on this. I despise the camp that did this, and the only camp with reason to do so is Romney or Obama.

Cain is not Perry’s target. Perry’s target is Romney. Obama, on the other hand, benefits from injuring any candidate he might see as a threat.


238 posted on 10/31/2011 6:35:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: montag813

This has the stink of Rove, Romney, establishment GOP oligarchs and/or Perry.

Hey, it almost worked with Clarence Thomas so it might work with Cain. Worthless RINOs. They can piss off.

Cain is the one, Cain can win.


239 posted on 10/31/2011 6:47:49 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: sauropod

“You think that Tokyo Rove isn’t above doing something like this?”


Yup. Libs would NEVER stoop to something like this, so it HAS to be a Republican. sarc/


240 posted on 10/31/2011 6:57:26 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: RJS1950
These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature

The above is the worst that politico was able to say about Cain. They did not go into detail on the exact innuendo or the exact "sexually suggestive question."

So, the allegation is that Cain "said" something. It isn't that he touched, forced, fondled, held, bribed, etc., anyone. It is a matter of words that can never be replayed or proven by anyone.

If this were Bill Clinton, because of his track record, I'd say we should pay attention. But every other person and every other situation does not reveal anything like this.

I'm guessing it was on the part of the females a matter of pure gold-digging, or a matter of them flat out lying, or a matter of a misunderstanding of context or intent.

So far as I know, without a recording, it's a matter of words that cannot be recaptured.

241 posted on 10/31/2011 7:08:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: montag813
When Rove insisted Cain was “finished”

How dare you challenge the word of America's highest-paid Norwegian-American High School dropout?

This man is a genius. Ask him, if you don't believe me. He has spent hundreds of millions of RNC dollars to turn slam dunk landslides for Republicans into exciting cliffhanger losses to unlikely Democrats.

The "genius" Part is he keeps getting the money.

242 posted on 10/31/2011 7:10:44 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Barry's choice: Indonesian, British, Kenyan, or American Citizenship. Lucky Us!)
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To: Scanian
trot out Larry Sinclair...

Preferring one's own sex, smoking crack, doing cocaine, or having a foreign citizen father has absolutely nothing to do with the ability and eligibility of this outstanding Hawaiian to live in the White House and visit Martha's Vineyard.

I suggest you spend some time reading his stirring autobiography as written by Bill Ayers.

243 posted on 10/31/2011 7:19:43 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Barry's choice: Indonesian, British, Kenyan, or American Citizenship. Lucky Us!)
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To: no dems
Herman Cain will survive this storm and come out stronger than ever!!!

Bingo!

Conservatives are tired of the double standard.

The MSM knew for months that John Edwards had fathered a child out of wedlock, yet did not report it. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming to report the story.

But, if there's "a rumor of an allegation by an unnamed source" about a conservative it's reported as front page news.

This double standard extends to every aspect of reporting. For example, Rick Perry's college grades have been sifted with a fine tooth comb by the press, but it's not worth the media's time to check Obama's grades.

This report doesn't make me wonder about Cain, it makes me mad at the MSM.

244 posted on 10/31/2011 7:26:50 AM PDT by Brookhaven (I believe in the seperation of school and state)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

>> This attack on Herman Cain is coordinated and brought forth by the following, “Politico” . . . . <<

Yep, and about the only thing surprising about it may be that it wasn’t done by the “maccaca squad” at the Washington Post.

(But I guess they’re too busy trying to smear Rubio. So perhaps the WaPo just farmed the Cain hit job out to Politico.)


245 posted on 10/31/2011 7:26:50 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: no dems
Herman Cain will survive this storm and come out stronger than ever!!!

That would be correct! "False accusation is the last stage before supernatural promotion."......Mike Murdoch

246 posted on 10/31/2011 7:47:00 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: dps.inspect
Geralod was on a witch hunt, plain and simple. His colors are wet and drip all over the place in situations like this. He wants a sensational healdline with his name attached to it and will stoop to whatever degree to try and achieve it.

Despite his antics and attempts to draw Cain's campaign in (and I have to say I do not think it was a smart move to call in to Geraldo, given his slant), the facts as I understand them to date are these:

On one side (Politico) you have this:


We have a report where we know nothing about the accusers and the specifics of the accusations from a dozen years ago.

They, at this point, are simply reported very vaguely by Politico: “episodes that left the women upset and offended” and “physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable," and that, "they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”

We have allegation of payoff in the five figure range, but again, nothing specific. IMHO, until the accusers come up with something much more specific, like names, dates and places, it is going to continue to be nothing more than an attemted smear campaign from my perspecitve.

Maybe Politico has more...time will tell, but at this point, it's not out there.


...and then, on the other side (Herman Cain's) you have this:
Ron Magruder, Denise Marie Fugo and Joseph Fassler, the chair, vice chair and immediate past chairman of the National Restaurant Association board of directors through the entire time of Cain’s position at the Restruant Association, said they hadn’t heard about any complaints regarding Cain making unwanted advances.

“I have never heard that. It would be news to me,” said Fugo, who runs a Cleveland, Ohio, catering company, adding such behavior would be totally out of character for the Cain she knew. “He’s very gracious.”

Fassler, who helped bring Cain on board as CEO of the restaurant association, said that any inappropriate behavior was not brought to his attention and that he would be upset to learn it had gone on and he was not made aware of it.

“That’s a shock to me,” Fassler said. “As an officer during all of Herman’s years there as a paid executive… none of that stuff ever surfaced to me. Nobody ever called me, complained about this, nor did I ever hear that from Peter Kilgore, nor did I ever hear that from Herman Cain.”

Fassler — who ran a Phoenix food-service company and finished his term as chairman the month before Cain’s June 1999 departure but remained on the board’s executive committee — described Cain as treating men and women identically and asserted it was “not within his character” to make unwanted advances. “It’s not what I know of him,” Fassler said.

Much like Fassler, almost all board members remember Cain fondly and say he left on good terms.

Cain was “extremely professional” and “fair” to female staffers at the restaurant association, recalled Lee Ellen Hayes, who said she “worked fairly closely with” Cain in the late 1990s, when she was an executive at the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, a Chicago-based offshoot of the group.

Cain’s treatment of women was “the same as his treatment of men. Herman treated everyone great,” said Mary Ann Cricchio, who was elected to the board of the restaurant group in 1998. She said Cain left such a good impression on the organization that when he spoke at a group event in January of this year, as he was considering a presidential bid, “he had unanimous support in the room.”


Very specific denials and testinomies to Cain's professionalism and behavior from very specific people over very specific time frames which would have covered the events in question.

So, at this pont, who you gonna believe?

247 posted on 10/31/2011 7:55:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: ScottinVA
This is interesting. From Perry's Arizona State Coordinator:


248 posted on 10/31/2011 8:01:23 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: xzins
Amen. Geraldo made me sick...as usual. See my post #247.
249 posted on 10/31/2011 8:05:13 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Hawthorn

Amazing, isn’t it!!! Marco Rubio and, now....Herman Cain getting the old smear workover from the low life liberal dirt bags. Why? Shucks, Cain & Rubio on the same ticket destroy, not only massively defeat POTUS Obama come November, 2012. They also destroy just about all of the present Democrat Party!!! So.....Cain & Rubio must be brought down in any manner possible. And....you can bet your bottom dollar, the Republican establishment RINO types, Rove, Romney, etc. are coordinating the effort with Obama, the Democrat Party, Politico & the Washington Post!!! Time for Patriotic, True, Real, Loyal, Decent Americans to come to the aid of their candidates and more importantly, their country!!!


250 posted on 10/31/2011 8:05:21 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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