Posted on 11/02/2011 6:51:29 PM PDT by jageorge72
Have you listened to Cain’s discussion of Foreign policy issues lately? He handled foreign policy during interview with O’Reilly last night as well as any candidate.
He’s being briefed daily, and has a solid foreign policy team:
Exclusive: Inside Herman Cains new foreign policy team
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/10/26/raising_cain_inside_herman_cain_s_new_foreign_policy_team
Not trying to change your mind, just addressing a common question.
I can’t stand Newt, but his advice is sound.
We attended a forum with Newt tonight at the Marriot Hotel in Duluth, GA. It was for about an hour from 6:00PM to 7:00 PM. We got there almost an hour early and the ballroom was almost half full. By 7:00 PM there was not an empty seat. As usual Newt was fantabulous. He spoke for about 20 minutes then opened it up for Q&A. A lot of good questions and Newt had the answers. His 21st Century Contract For America is excellent and he plans to dramatically cut the size of government. All the stuff most of us are desparate for. He got a standing ovation and shook hands with most everone on the way out. We were very pleased with the whole evening. We still love Herman but Newt would also be very good.
So far, Cain’s numbers have climbed higher since Sunday, as has his fundraising.
I’m not so sure I would go so far as to call Newt a pervert. A political prostitute perhaps, but he only does what the current client pays him to do. Is that perversion?
I do too. They would make a very good team.
Since there was some kind of confidentiality agreement, the first thing Cain should've done is consulted lawyers and those who know the contents of that agreement so the campaign could know what it could and could not say without violating the agreement or incurring self-inflicted wounds. It doesn't appear that was done.
I'm coming around to Newt. Of those running, he may be the one most ready and able to articulate, defend and move forward a national agenda to get America back on track.
At this point it almost looks every faction of the GOP is trying to give away 2012.
Newt’s next in line to be annointed conservative savior and frontrunner and he knows it. Naive to think the guy is running to be “support” for Herman Cain. but there are a lot of naive people out there. Then when he washes out to sea and all options are exhausted and time has run out...Romney wins the nomination. Conservatives are doing a swell job in “vetting” this cycle. this whole talk about taking over the GOP will result in a liberal flip flopper with ties to the old school Rockefellar crowd that went after Goldwater. Congratulations people.
I like Rick Santorum too, and I’m glad he’s in the race, but I think it is almost certain that he is not going to climb up past all of the other conservatives. At some point Rick Santorum and his core supporters will have to be responsible about the race overall.
They’re both in it to sell books. And now they’re saying their debate won’t be a real debate where each guy is trying to score points, it will just be a conversation.
He claims he repented, but upon seeing another married horndog under attack, he goes right back into defending it.
A lot of people like that Cain is an amateur, and responds to things like a person with no experience. Just as he responds to so many questions.
It is the year of the ignorant and untrained, apparently. Some conservatives have decided that the biggest problem with Obama as President is that Obama was just too experienced for the job, and we need someone with less experience than Obama.
I hope Cain wasn’t talking about Chinese “developing” nuclear subs. They’ve had those since 2004. It’s even listed in Wikipedia. Everybody knows that.
He was talking about a nuclear aircraft carrier which China is working on.
Why didn’t Block know that? Is block less informed than even Cain?
The nuclcear thing is one of the rare cases where Cain really did just have a gaffe, a slip of the tongue, and it was clear he knew what he was talking about.
Most of Cain’s “gaffes” are actually statements of bad policy that he gets to correct when he figures out he screwed up, because he’s got no record so nobody can see what his “long-standing” positions are.
I don’t know. We threw a solid conservative with great experience and a solid RECORD of conservative accomplishment, along with a big war chest and an organization capable of beating Obama and Romney, simply because we were upset he hurt our feelings justifying giving a few thousand smart english-speaking immigrants an in-state-tuition college education.
SO why wouldn’t we throw Cain overboard for a similarly stupid reason?
That has to be good news for Cain, who would be knocked silly if Gingrich actually debated him.
Although it would reveal Cain to be an amateur and inexperienced at real debating, which is what turns on his supporters, so maybe he’d raise even MORE money and get HIGHER poll numbers if he looked bad at the debate. “That’s what I love about Cain, he’s a normal guy, not some slick politician who can debate the details of issues like he thinks about it all the time”.
Ha ha, true!
I dont know. We threw a solid conservative with great experience and a solid RECORD of conservative accomplishment, along with a big war chest and an organization capable of beating Obama and Romney, simply because we were upset he hurt our feelings justifying giving a few thousand smart english-speaking immigrants an in-state-tuition college education.
SO why wouldnt we throw Cain overboard for a similarly stupid reason?
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Cain is not the lamestream pick either. I imagine that anyone that Obama cannot beat will be demonized. And conservatives buy it. Face it, conservatives are stupid, at least the Republican ones are: Who do they let run their debates? Their destroyers. Who do they let frame the narritive? Their enemies.
Dummies.
The problem with this claim, of course, is that China is not exactly trying to develop nuclear capability any more than America is they staged their first nuclear weapons test in 1964. Cain didnt clarify what he meant by that phrase, but it certainly doesnt make him look particularly knowledgeable to not know that China has nuclear weapons. Woodruff, on her part, did not comment on his statements and moved on to another topic, seemingly unaware of the fact that Cains statement seemed to belie the fact that he had no idea that China was a nuclear nation, and that this is common knowledge in the political world leaving Cain without the chance to clarify yet another murky policy statement that his staunch supporters will argue is being unfairly wielded as a weapon against him.
The problem with this claim, of course, is that China is not exactly trying to develop nuclear capability any more than America is they staged their first nuclear weapons test in 1964. Cain didnt clarify what he meant by that phrase, but it certainly doesnt make him look particularly knowledgeable to not know that China has nuclear weapons. Woodruff, on her part, did not comment on his statements and moved on to another topic, seemingly unaware of the fact that Cains statement seemed to belie the fact that he had no idea that China was a nuclear nation, and that this is common knowledge in the political world leaving Cain without the chance to clarify yet another murky policy statement that his staunch supporters will argue is being unfairly wielded as a weapon against him.
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The phrase nuclear capability, applied to a nation, refers to its militarys possession of nuclear weapons. In that sense, China is certainly not developing nuclear capability: The Peoples Republic of China has been a nuclear power since the 1960s detonating its first nuclear test in 1964, and signing the Non-Proliferation Treaty as a nuclear weapons state in 1968.
However, tonight on Fox News, Cains chief of staff, Mark Block, explained that Cain was, in an inelegant formulation, referring to the nuclear capability China is getting for their submarines and aircraft carriers. But this clarification doesnt do much to help Cain: China launched its first nuclear submarine, part of the Han-class of attack boats, in 1974. In 2004, it launched its class of nuclear-powered ballistic-missile subs, which are capable of launching the strategic nuclear weapons China already had.
Moreover, Cain erred in saying that China is developing more carriers like we have: The Chinese navy currently has no carriers, except for an essentially unarmed rusting hulk, the Varyag, purchased from Russia and now on sea trials for training purposes. China is starting to develop aircraft carriers, but, at first, they will be conventionally powered, not nuclear, ships. This is according to the Chinese themselves: They are planning to build two 5060,000-ton mid-sized aircraft carriers, similar to the Queen Elizabethclass carriers that the United Kingdom is currently developing, with nuclear- powered ships possibly to come later.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/282115/cain-china-gaffe-patrick-brennan
From 2007:
The problem with this claim, of course, is that China is not exactly trying to develop nuclear capability any more than America is they staged their first nuclear weapons test in 1964. Cain didnt clarify what he meant by that phrase, but it certainly doesnt make him look particularly knowledgeable to not know that China has nuclear weapons. Woodruff, on her part, did not comment on his statements and moved on to another topic, seemingly unaware of the fact that Cains statement seemed to belie the fact that he had no idea that China was a nuclear nation, and that this is common knowledge in the political world leaving Cain without the chance to clarify yet another murky policy statement that his staunch supporters will argue is being unfairly wielded as a weapon against him.
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HOW IN THE WORLD CAN A QUESTION ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY BE UNFAIR?
anyway, I’m sure Cain will dismiss this foreign policy mess as just more attacks on him because he is an unconventional candidate.
The funny part was how many of her supporters are actually complaining that Woodruff didn't catch his mistake for him -- and suggesting she purposely ignored his answer. Just as they complained about how Peirs asked HIS question, and then ignored that Cain's answer wasn't quite responsive.
Except in this case he is not defending a married horndog.
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