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There's Something Very Weird About The Herman Cain Sexual Harassment Scandal
Business Insider ^ | 11/04/2011 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 11/04/2011 6:45:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
So, one woman gets $35,000 and another gets $45,000 as "termination settlements."

And to fight just one of these cases would have cost in excess of how many thousands?

61 posted on 11/04/2011 7:17:17 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Idi Obama = Just your everyday, ordinary, 3rd World Dictator)
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To: LibLieSlayer
No Rovebot.

Cain has to do NOTHING of the sort.

Cain was accused. He refuted the accusation. It is NOT his job to continue proving the lies to be lies over and over and over.

It is past time for Rove and the rest of you Romneybots to stop pimping the Cain smear and demand the accusers provide even 1 single shred of evidence.

So smear-bot, where is the single shred of evidence to back up you sleazy accusations?

Rumor, hearsay and accusation are NOT evidence.

62 posted on 11/04/2011 7:17:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Bravo.


63 posted on 11/04/2011 7:18:28 AM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: traderrob6

Cain will never get my vote unless he could prove he is innocent. He looks like a bad character. We have one of those now. We don’t need another.


64 posted on 11/04/2011 7:18:38 AM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Steely Tom

I actually got banned from a college basketball message board when I stated (paraphrase), “I bet she is lying. Who are you going to believe, 41 Duke students or one low life stripper? If the events occured as alleged, at least one of those students would have flipped.”


65 posted on 11/04/2011 7:19:08 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What if they manufactured a scandal and nobody came?

Appears to be happening.

Rasmussen was just on Fox reporting Cain at 26% and Romney at 23%.

That's about where they both were before this non-scandal.

Then they cut to Huntsman who babbled on about why this is important to the NH primary, Romney this or that, snakes in the grass, uh, uh, zombies or something.

66 posted on 11/04/2011 7:19:31 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: N. Theknow
And why would those women be terminated and Cain keeps his job? Because he did something so wrong or because they had trumped up claims with no proof?

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
67 posted on 11/04/2011 7:20:10 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s what she said!


68 posted on 11/04/2011 7:20:20 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now some radio show host says Cain made awkward remarks to his staffer recently. Cain said “Darlin can you doctor up this tea for me please”. I kid you not.


69 posted on 11/04/2011 7:20:27 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Carry me back
Cain will never get my vote unless he could prove he is innocent.

Cain will get my vote until they can prove him guilty!!

70 posted on 11/04/2011 7:21:02 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: N. Theknow

See here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2801894/posts

EXCERPT:

When you consider that, more than a decade ago, Herman Cain settled some unspecified sexual-harassment claims, you also need to consider that the only things you need to file a lawsuit are the filing fee and a printer. Facts are optional.

Maybe Cain did harass some employees. But the dirty little secret among lawyers that defend business people from lawsuits — and among those lawyers who bring them — is that an enormous percentage of such claims are frivolous, if not flat-out lies.

Concepts like “truth” and “justice” have little meaning in the world of big-money litigation. Thanks to ravenous plaintiffs’ lawyers empowered by the politicians they buy with campaign contributions, every business person is in the crosshairs.

Lawsuits are so expensive to defend that it makes good business sense to settle even the most frivolous cases. And businesses do.

TV and movies would have you believe that most lawsuits end up with a jury hearing the evidence and rendering a verdict. That almost never happens. Close to 97 percent of civil cases never see a courtroom. The vast majority settle, with the business paying good money to end the nightmare — money that could have gone to hiring struggling young people, buying new equipment or expanding.

And, as Herman Cain has learned, you never really can buy your peace. The accusers apparently signed nondisclosure agreements so that Cain and his company could put the accusations behind them. A lot of good that did. Whether it was the accusers or others who revealed the claims, the effort to buy peace now looks like wasted money.

In the world of sexual-harassment law, the accusations are bad enough. You’re guilty until proven innocent. The law is skewed toward the plaintiffs — it’s hard to get even the silliest charges tossed out,
and even then it often costs upward of six figures to do so.

Businesses almost never collect their legal fees back after defeating frivolous claims, but a winning plaintiff usually does. And when the lawyer is working on a contingency, taking 40 percent or more of the haul and fronting the costs of the suit, there’s little incentive not to march down to the courthouse and file even the flimsiest case.

Even what constitutes “sexual harassment” has crossed from common sense into farce. In the 1970s, my mother was a lawyer who faced the real thing as one of the very few women in a testosterone-fueled district attorney’s office. Today, women are at or near parity with men in most every field, and are even ahead of them among entrants to the professions.


71 posted on 11/04/2011 7:21:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
But the media firestorm has overlooked one key fact: We still don't know what Cain actually did.

Interesting that we don't what Obama did either.......in college.

But, even weirderly, there has never been, there is not currently, nor will there be a media firestorm over that story.

Perhaps Harvard, Yale, Columbia, DeVry and whatever other institutions of higher tuition are under some sort of confidentiality agreement. That is to say, if they want to receive even a dime of taxpayer money while Clouseau is in The White House, they better keep their traps shut.

72 posted on 11/04/2011 7:21:41 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: livius

Put your flame suit on. Suggesting this might be anything more than a big nothing burger is going to get you carpet bombed.


73 posted on 11/04/2011 7:21:54 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: MNJohnnie
Provide even a single shred of evidence to back up your accusations.
You keep demanding this of people who are NOT saying they believe the original allegations were true or justified.

What some of us ARE saying is that Cain handled this very badly.

How can you not understand the difference.

1. The original charges are bogus and unsubstantiated and completely without merit. --- I agree.

2. The original charges resulted in legal settlements that (though sealed) are a matter of public record and Cain should have been ready for them to come out and been better prepared to deal with them. --- You don't seem to be able to understand this 2nd point. It's not that you disagree with it, you just don't get it. You keep saying "prove it", even though I agree with #1.

74 posted on 11/04/2011 7:22:30 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Georgia Girl 2

RE: “Darlin can you doctor up this tea for me please”. I kid you not.

GASP, HE CALLED HER DARLIN’?!!! OH THE HUMANITY !!!


75 posted on 11/04/2011 7:22:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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76 posted on 11/04/2011 7:22:47 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: samtheman
But I guess that’s why they call what he lacks “experience”.

What you call lack of experience is increasing his poll numbers and campaign contributions.

Hi lack of experience as you put it is serving him better then your arm chair quarterbacking and advice.

77 posted on 11/04/2011 7:23:17 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Now some radio show host says Cain made awkward remarks to his staffer recently. Cain said “Darlin can you doctor up this tea for me please”. I kid you not.

I know it's insane! The worse things he MAY have even done 12 years ago was get drunk at a dinner party and act foolish. Our last two presidents were at one time in their lives serial drug abusers and the guy before that a rapist. This is insane
78 posted on 11/04/2011 7:23:33 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Carry me back
Yes they are totally baseless. The fact there was a settlement is not evidence of anything.

Companies settle frivolous lawsuits all the time because it is cheaper to settle then pay all the expense of going to trial. This is standard business practice.

Why spend several hundred thousand dollars to try a suit you can pay much less for a simple negotiated settlement? How do you know the settlement does not include a complete exoneration of Cain? Accusation, rumor and assumption are not fact. Guilty until proven innocent IS NOT the standard. So either provide even a shred of evidence to back up your accusation or quit pimping the smear.

Claiming the settlement proves wrong doing demonstrates a total ignorance of how the legal system works.

79 posted on 11/04/2011 7:24:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Carry me back

Rahm and Obama and the Chicago thugs want all Obama competition off the ballot just like they did in Obama’s first election.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/nov/2/picket-source-rham-emanuel-involved-cain-sexual-ha/

IT SIMPLY WON’T WORK.No one believes the Saul Alinsky evil,corrupt,criminals anymore.


80 posted on 11/04/2011 7:24:29 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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