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Declaration of Independence Was 'Illegal,' Grounds for Treason, British Lawyers Say
Fox News ^ | 10/20/11

Posted on 11/06/2011 6:42:22 AM PST by Libloather

Declaration of Independence Was 'Illegal,' Grounds for Treason, British Lawyers Say
Published October 20, 2011 | FoxNews.com

The Declaration of Independence was “illegal” and “treasonable,” according to a team of British lawyers, the BBC reports.

The assertion was made at a debate in Philadelphia between British and American lawyers over the legitimacy of the United States of America.

At the debate, pitting British barristers against American attorneys, lawyers for the former colonial power argued that America’s Declaration of Independence in 1776 “was not only illegal, but actually treasonable,” according to the BBC.

The lawyers representing the British team decided that the Americans had no legal grounds for secession. "[President Abraham] Lincoln made the case against secession and he was right."

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KEYWORDS: british; declaration; independence; treason
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To: Libloather
The lawyers representing the British team decided that the Americans had no legal grounds for secession. "[President Abraham] Lincoln made the case against secession and he was right."

What the colonists did was not secession, it was rebellion. And they never pretended otherwise. So major flaw in the argument right off the bat.

81 posted on 11/06/2011 8:46:42 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: KarlInOhio
No burning of the White House!

The rest is ok.

82 posted on 11/06/2011 8:48:27 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Grizzled Bear
I welcome your most esteemed instruction for us poor, backwards savages.

It's a joke mate ...

83 posted on 11/06/2011 8:56:27 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Actually, old bean, "-ize" is correct, "-ise" is French.

Is it not possible to just chuckle over an obvious joke?

84 posted on 11/06/2011 8:59:46 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Darlin' we invented them. So we get to name them. Deal with it.

Talk about not being aware of the world outside your boaders...

sheesh, what an uptight thread today - it is a JOKE!

85 posted on 11/06/2011 9:05:15 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Nip

Do you need any further proof that lawyers should be banned from holding any office higher than local dog catcher?

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You hate dogs or what?

lol


86 posted on 11/06/2011 9:17:34 AM PST by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

My response was intended as a joke, as well.

Don’t use “smarmy comments” if you can’t take “smarmy comments.”


87 posted on 11/06/2011 9:18:20 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: Nip

Agree


88 posted on 11/06/2011 9:28:14 AM PST by Figment (Herman Cain: Nein, Nein, Nein)
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To: grumpygresh

Great point


89 posted on 11/06/2011 9:29:47 AM PST by Figment (Herman Cain: Nein, Nein, Nein)
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To: Libloather

It’s only treason if you lose.


90 posted on 11/06/2011 9:52:26 AM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: Libloather

You bet it was treason, which is why the Revolutionary War was fought and won by the Yankees.


91 posted on 11/06/2011 9:52:59 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Libloather

Someone reposting this the day after Guy Fawkes Day (Remember, remember the fifth of November, gunpowder, treason and plot. . .), it seems an opportune time to observe as I have before that the English speaking peoples are an odd lot: we all let off fireworks in commemoration of acts of treason against the British Crown.

In the States we commemorate one which was successful, in Commonwealth realms, they commemorate one which was unsuccessful.


92 posted on 11/06/2011 10:05:52 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: pinochet

Ah, but the United Kingdom, which likewise recognizes Her Britannic Majesty Elizabeth II as Head of State did suffer a mortgage crisis.

Prince William will some day make a spendid monarch. However, the recent tampering with the line of succession should have included removing HRH Charles, who is an insufferable twit and will make a wretched monarch and a dreadful Head of the Commonwealth. (Quite frankly, Charles’s accession will give a great boost to republicanism in all of the Commonwealth realms.)


93 posted on 11/06/2011 10:14:32 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Libloather
George III saw it that way, hence the war. In the end it is always war that settles such issues, its the guy on the ground taking and holding the territory of the enemy that decides things.
94 posted on 11/06/2011 11:32:38 AM PST by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: kosciusko51

They were only building on the foundation built by the progressives in the mid 1800s. It’s really kind of artificial to distinguish between these people. What ever generation, they have been pushing toward the same end goal.


95 posted on 11/06/2011 12:25:21 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

Furthermore, you will spell “theater” as “theatre” and “saber” as “sabre”


96 posted on 11/06/2011 2:39:07 PM PST by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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To: Libloather
William the Bastard's invasion of England in 1066 was illegal--all of the regimes ruling England since the battle of Hastings have been illegitimate.

As Thomas Paine said in Common Sense, "A French bastard landing with an armed banditti, and establishing himself king of England against the consent of the natives, is in plain terms a very paltry rascally original."

97 posted on 11/06/2011 2:44:15 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: UKrepublican

Um mm.....PING! ;-)


98 posted on 11/06/2011 3:36:36 PM PST by wazoo1031
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To: wazoo1031

haha! have these lawyers nothing better to do?


99 posted on 11/06/2011 4:09:33 PM PST by UKrepublican
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To: Libloather
Perhaps we should discuss the legality of the UK's rotting prison hulks where tens of thousands of patriots died of exposure, disease and malnourishment?
100 posted on 11/06/2011 4:19:51 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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