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Miss. defeats life at conception ballot initiative
Associated Press ^ | Nov.8, 2011 | EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS

Posted on 11/08/2011 7:53:00 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- Mississippi voters shot down a referendum Tuesday that would have effectively banned abortions in the state, rejecting an initiative that said life begins at conception.

The so-called personhood initiative was rejected by more than 55 percent of voters. If it had passed, it was virtually assured of drawing legal challenges because it conflicts with the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that established a legal right to abortion.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortions; dehumanization; dehumanizing; moralabsolutes; proabortion; prolife
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I voted no on the most convoluted piece of government overreach Ive seen in a long time...just went toooooooooooo far
21 posted on 11/08/2011 8:15:13 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Truth. I remember reading that liberals were calling it “racist” when prolifers try to prevent black babies from being aborted. :?


22 posted on 11/08/2011 8:15:38 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: MuttTheHoople

What a crappy thing to say. That type of stuff is what gives the other side ammo to pin all of us like you.


23 posted on 11/08/2011 8:15:59 PM PST by hitchwolf
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To: Strategerist

It will probably be back in modified form in 2012.


24 posted on 11/08/2011 8:16:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The post was disgusting and I stand by my reaction. Actions or Feelings do not play into it. That’s all.


25 posted on 11/08/2011 8:17:14 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: skaterboy

Hey if you’re white it wouldn’t touch your family... much.


26 posted on 11/08/2011 8:17:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: eyedigress

Your reaction was a choice or a passion.

Make up your mind. Do not try to stand by one, only waffling to the other when it is convenient.


27 posted on 11/08/2011 8:18:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Its pretty disgusting when being against killing babies is seen as extreme.


28 posted on 11/08/2011 8:20:13 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It was a disgusting aggression of thought against an entire state that I found repugnant. Call it what you want.


29 posted on 11/08/2011 8:22:45 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Did the text of the proposition come short in this manner, or did its “official explanation” come short? That this is never intended to apply in cases where the life of the mother is in danger?

There was no text remotely discussing this or even abortion, though the intent was clearly not to make any exceptions for the life of the mother or incest.

It was simply:

BALLOT SUMMARY: Initiative #26 would amend the Mississippi Constitution to define the word “person” or “persons”, as those terms are used in Article III of the state constitution, to include every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning, or the functional equivalent thereof.

Which is the functional equivalent of no abortions, no exceptions, and as people realized, would probably be used to try to ban birth control pills as well. And as I've pointed out, very quickly morphs into child welfare social workers, homicide detectives, and coroners poking around people's uteruses and vaginal effusions on demand.

30 posted on 11/08/2011 8:23:27 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: GeronL

Yes sir.

Favor is being shown to those who kill the unborn. One can criticize pickily that the measure failed to deal rationally with situations such as tubal pregnancies, but that is easily enough amended. If that favor is not the action of “love” then pray tell me what is it? If MS does not love dead black babies then it loves the killers of black babies.


31 posted on 11/08/2011 8:23:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: Strategerist

Clearly they expected Roe v. Wade to cut a huge swath through it — they were only hoping for what bits would be left.


32 posted on 11/08/2011 8:24:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: Grunthor

Too bad...people have been corrupted by abortion on demand for many years. It will take Jesus to undo this.


33 posted on 11/08/2011 8:25:19 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: eyedigress

OK, so MS tolerates dead black babies and loves their killers.


34 posted on 11/08/2011 8:25:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: GeronL
Most can agree with the simple statement that ‘life begins at conception’. But the implications are far reaching and need to be addressed before this can pass.
1) Will a doctor save a life of a women with a tubal pregnancy, or will he be too afraid of murder charges?
2) If a couple has a test tube full of fertilized eggs, will they be charged with murder if they aren't all implanted?
3) Will miscarrages be investigated?

It's just not as simple as the statement about conception. I don't think the Miss initiative addressed these issues.

35 posted on 11/08/2011 8:26:16 PM PST by independent in tx
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To: skaterboy
I voted no on the most convoluted piece of government overreach Ive seen in a long time...just went toooooooooooo far

This is what happens when someone carefully sits down and thinks about a vast extension of government power like the initiative, instead of blindly supporting it without really even understanding what it states or what it means, in an effort to feel morally superior.

36 posted on 11/08/2011 8:26:42 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It sounds like the anti-Obama feelings from the 2009 and 2010 elections are gone even in conservative states.


37 posted on 11/08/2011 8:27:52 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Strategerist

Whatever it was, it wasn’t “convoluted.” It was as doggone simple as you can get! If the results are complicated, well think of what happened when black men were emancipated. A great evil being undone results in a great confusion in the established order.

Anyhow, yes to sell this has to deal rationally with triage situations. But doesn’t MS already have a body of triage law?


38 posted on 11/08/2011 8:29:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: independent in tx
Here's another good though experiment.

Let's say your neighbors are married and 30, and have been married for 10 years. And don't have any children. Suspicious, no>

Isn't it your responsibility to report them to Child Protective Services on the suspicion that they've been been using birth control pills (which, as we're continually told by the fanatics, are an "abortifacient").

These people may have been guilty of killing HUNDREDS of "persons." Which clearly justifies a warrant and the police coming in and ransacking the house looking for birth control pills.

39 posted on 11/08/2011 8:30:41 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Grunthor

Don’t agree with your assessment of Mississippi as some sort of bellwether state. Just about everyone whom I have had any dealings with from that state has been either devious, or downright criminal. Sorry.


40 posted on 11/08/2011 8:31:51 PM PST by 4Runner
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