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Low-Salt Diets May Raise Risk of Heart Disease
LiveScience ^ | 11-09-11 | Rachael Rettner

Posted on 11/10/2011 2:31:09 AM PST by globelamp

Cutting back on salt may not be as beneficial for your heart as once thought, a new study suggests.

While a diet low in salt reduces blood pressure, it increases the levels of cholesterol, fat and hormones in the blood that are known to increase the risk of heart disease, the study found.

Overall, the good and bad consequences of a low-salt diet may cancel each other out, so the diet has relatively little effect on the development of disease, said study researcher Dr. Niels Graudal, of Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cholesterol; diet; food; health; heart; lowsaltdiet; nannystate; nutrition; salt; science
I think it´s time to realize that much of the science regarding "public health" has been twisted by the neo-puritanical inclinations and lust for power of our modern managerial class.
1 posted on 11/10/2011 2:31:09 AM PST by globelamp
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To: globelamp; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Moochelle Obama is causing heart disease!

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 11/10/2011 2:38:26 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: globelamp
From what I've been reading, what you want to eat is sea salt; that way you get a full spectrum of minerals.

The French still harvest sea salt by means of salt ponds and channels set up for this purpose. The stuff they harvest is in large grains, and it comes out gray and moist.

3 posted on 11/10/2011 2:46:59 AM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: pbmaltzman

What about iodized salt?


4 posted on 11/10/2011 2:57:50 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: pbmaltzman

We use sea salt. You have to have salt in order for your metabolic hormones to work well. We also supplement with lugols for our iodine.


5 posted on 11/10/2011 3:20:54 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: globelamp

It figures. They use to tell me to brush my teeth up and down too.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 3:30:41 AM PST by the_daug
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To: armymarinemom

Googling lugols (that is best done lugubriously) I see they talk about VERTICAL drops of the stuff. Does that work differently from HORIZONTAL drops?


7 posted on 11/10/2011 3:32:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: globelamp
Many years ago while I was having a V-8, a coworker gives me a lecture warning about the sodium content.
When he was done, I said: "the Good Book says 'salt is good' so unless you can tell me you know more than Jesus Christ, I'll continue eating it."

He couldn't answer a word.

8 posted on 11/10/2011 3:42:57 AM PST by stormhill
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To: the_daug

Yeah, that was the theory when I was a kid. You were supposed to push the tooth dirt towards the top of the teeth because it would come off better. It seemed that everything conspired to make home tooth hygiene as much of a nuisance as possible. And I had beaucoup cavities.

With years have come greater wisdom and a new set of dental theories. Now they say don’t worry about where you scrubbed it so long as you scrub as much of the surface as you can, then rinse well. And more tooth fairy points if you floss first since that gets out stuff brushing can’t, and the tooth paste helps get rid of the bits that got flossed out. The answer: floss and brush in the nightly shower. That nicely takes care of the inconvenience and mess, and look Mr. Dentist no cavities.

So long as you don’t do what one hijinxist did to me, and grab my upper lip and rub it back and forth over my teeth, saying this is what you do to dislodge the dirt. I nearly bit off that hijinxist’s head (I’m used to picking and the little whirly brush, but a lip grab?!?), and I never returned to her supervising dentist who got in a high dudgeon at ME for it. Who himself apparently quit that practice or was fired, because I never saw his name on mailbox stuffers for that office again. Didn’t matter, because I started going to a different office where they had a sane hygienist.


9 posted on 11/10/2011 3:45:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: stormhill

It can in principle be pushed to overdose, but no common food will achieve that in a person with healthy kidneys. You eat too much salty stuff, you will thirst until you’ve drunk enough liquid to dilute it to way below maximum safe levels.


10 posted on 11/10/2011 3:47:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes vertical contains more than horizontal.


11 posted on 11/10/2011 3:51:26 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Anything can be harmful if done to excess or misused.
12 posted on 11/10/2011 3:52:04 AM PST by stormhill
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To: armymarinemom

Which is what I’d suppose, but again I’ve never seen a product that asks you to dispense it in horizontal drops. Isn’t vertical the only way you can get a drop, unless you have a gravity ray?


13 posted on 11/10/2011 3:58:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: globelamp

Gandhi made salt because the Empire controlled it.

Why?

And why is Sodium, Na, not Salt - NaCl?

Hmmm.


14 posted on 11/10/2011 3:58:17 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: stormhill

I ate darn near a whole 16” takeout pizza one night at a motel on a visit to another office of the business I worked for at that time, and was guzzling down water from the faucet for hours. Weird night, and unusually salty pizza.


15 posted on 11/10/2011 4:00:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: pbmaltzman

>>From what I’ve been reading, what you want to eat is sea salt;

Probably for reasons “Any sailor worth his Salt” would have had intimate physiological experience with; and the sheeplefied, not so much.

My Russian great-grandmother regularly ate lemons (whole, including the peel) and salt... and lived to be 94 years young.

Hmmm.

Moochelle is a Scurvey Dog. She and her progressive health nuts can KMA.


16 posted on 11/10/2011 4:07:41 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>>Moochelle Obama is causing heart disease!

Moocelle’s been eating too much Saladin.


17 posted on 11/10/2011 4:08:34 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: globelamp

Every sunday morning I cook up a full package of bacon, and then I salt it and also with some course ground pepper.

And I swear I will be taking along a small salt shaker to the movie house, you have to actually ask for salt and they then reluctantly produce some.


18 posted on 11/10/2011 4:11:31 AM PST by Eye of Unk (E-Cat is the future, unless we want to live in the past.)
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To: armymarinemom

>>You have to have salt in order for
>>your metabolic hormones to work well.

Uhuh. As the British Empire evidently knew damn well - when they were controlling the Salt trade and depriving their Indian subjects/slaves of it.

The appetite of tyranny is never far removed from the tyranny of the appetite.


19 posted on 11/10/2011 4:17:37 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

you will thirst until you’ve drunk enough liquid to dilute it to way below maximum safe levels.

Not exactly.

“Salt is a solute, when it is concentrated inside or outside the cell, it will draw the water in its direction. This is also why you get thirsty after eating something salty.”

http://www.biologycorner.com/bio1/diffusion.html

 

Salt helps the body retain water — which is a good thing when the body WORKS and sweats as it was designed to; but in a society of obese and sedentary McSheeple... not so much.

What happens when Salt is concentrated inside the cell? It will cause the cell to continue to absorb water until either osmotic balance is established - or - Kaboom, the cell membrane explodes.

Bon appetit.


20 posted on 11/10/2011 4:37:00 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Eye of Unk

Many times when a person can’t get enough salt, the gall bladder is not functioning properly.
Celery and asparagus is great for gallbladder.


21 posted on 11/10/2011 5:25:15 AM PST by conservativesister
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To: presently no screen name
The problem with ordinary refined table salt is that you may only get sodium + chloride. There are supposedly a lot more minerals in sea salt... in some cases they claim over 84 trace minerals.

I am using sea salt but not Lugol's solution. Unless something weird happens, I am going to assume that I'm getting enough iodine in the sea salt.

22 posted on 11/10/2011 5:36:24 AM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: LomanBill
Moochelle is a Scurvey Dog. She and her progressive health nuts can KMA.

Agreed.

23 posted on 11/10/2011 5:39:27 AM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: Eye of Unk
Every sunday morning I cook up a full package of bacon, and then I salt it and also with some course ground pepper.

Mmmmmmmmm.... bacon!

24 posted on 11/10/2011 5:40:09 AM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: globelamp; neverdem; DvdMom; grey_whiskers; Ladysmith; Roos_Girl; Silentgypsy; conservative cat; ...

Ping


25 posted on 11/10/2011 5:54:13 AM PST by decimon
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To: the_daug

“They use to tell me to brush my teeth up and down too.” That’s wrong?


26 posted on 11/10/2011 6:01:06 AM PST by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: pbmaltzman

Nowadays if one drinks any milk at all they are getting enough iodine. The cow teats are washed with iodine prior to extracting the milk. (Or so is my understanding) part of my diet (QWLC.com, same as Rush) is to use low-sodium salt. Salt does cause fat cells to retain water and become huge. By cutting salt and drinking LOTS of water I can see my feet once again. After a few weeks I don’t even miss the excess salt.


27 posted on 11/10/2011 6:25:26 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: globelamp

Can Bloomberg be charged with intentional damage to New York citizens now?


28 posted on 11/10/2011 6:30:48 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: stormhill

“the Good Book says ‘salt is good’ so unless you can tell me you know more than Jesus Christ, I’ll continue eating it.”

Salt is good! And your body will tell you when you have had too much by making you throw up.


29 posted on 11/10/2011 6:53:41 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: pbmaltzman
I'm getting enough iodine in the sea salt.

Ok thanks. When I use salt, it is sea salt but mine doesn't mention iodine, specifically, so I was wondering. It contains 'valuable trace elements not found in table salt'.
30 posted on 11/10/2011 7:01:11 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: LomanBill

Thats why you need potassium. The cells like to have alot of potassium inside and have alot of sodium outside.
The electrical gradient difference between sodium and potassium is what drives many of the transfers/processes across the cell membrane.

For one, it is what makes your nerves work.

If you have enough potassium, usually your blood pressure will normalize on its own.


31 posted on 11/10/2011 7:08:58 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Moochelle Obama is causing heart disease!

If I have a heart attack I'm suing Olive Garden and naming her as a co-defendant.

32 posted on 11/10/2011 7:12:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: globelamp

Importantly, there is a careful balance of salts in the body, so that eating too much, or too little, of one particular salt can mess you up. There is a lot of argument out there about how much is adequate, so these levels are approximate.

Most adults require 1,000 mg of calcium a day.

Around 1,500 to 2,300 mg of sodium a day.

Around 4,700 mg of potassium a day.

Around 400 mg of magnesium a day.

etc.


33 posted on 11/10/2011 8:26:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: stormhill

I was adding salt to something last weekend and my sister who is a nurse started lecturing me because I have high blood pressure. I responded, I went on a low, almost no salt diet for two years and it didn’t make a bit of difference in my blood pressure readings, so as long as my medication takes care of the problem I am going to use salt.


34 posted on 11/10/2011 8:57:08 AM PST by sarge83
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 11/10/2011 9:32:01 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: LomanBill

Don’t factor the kidney out of the process, silly Billy.


36 posted on 11/10/2011 12:47:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Havn’t factored the kidneys out at all.

I just know from experience that when I lose 6 pounds on a 100 mile bicycle ride, it was lost not via my kidneys and urinary tract - but via respiration and sweat.


37 posted on 11/10/2011 7:26:02 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: globelamp

I mean how can anybody eat pizza without salt?


38 posted on 11/10/2011 7:27:56 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: LomanBill

Sweat pumps out salt too


39 posted on 11/10/2011 9:56:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; decimon
Effects of Low-Sodium Diet vs. High-Sodium Diet on Blood Pressure, Renin, Aldosterone, Catecholamines, Cholesterol, and Triglyceride (Cochrane Review)

It's a FReebie!

40 posted on 11/14/2011 1:18:29 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Would you “cut to the chase” and translate the bottom line in that for us, please?


41 posted on 12/13/2011 4:20:44 PM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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