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Mexican interior minister killed in crash
CNN ^ | Nov 11,2011

Posted on 11/11/2011 10:42:31 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie

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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

i still think the fast & furious long goal was to cause massive civil unrest in mexico... to a point of civil war. the result would be refugees begging for access to the US

and of course, 0failure will grant it... along with refugee status to all the illegals already here.

5 minutes later, they’ll also get the right to vote

30-50m new dem voters


21 posted on 11/11/2011 11:23:42 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: greatvikingone

I remember hearing them described as 30,000 parts flying in close formation.


22 posted on 11/11/2011 11:27:06 AM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

RIP.


23 posted on 11/11/2011 11:27:42 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Thursday, November 10, 2011 Calif. budget cuts threaten to cut elite special agent units. - “171 special agents are about to be laid off.” “We go after major narcotic traffickers, international cartels,” said an unidentified agent. “Sex offenders, murderers, kidnappers.” “Thirty-four task forces are being dismantled.” http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/state&id=8427903


24 posted on 11/11/2011 11:37:32 AM PST by anglian
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To: MestaMachine

Ping!


25 posted on 11/11/2011 11:51:01 AM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Abathar; Tijeras_Slim
Tijeras_Slim : I wonder if it got popped by the Eric Holder Fitty-Cal...

Abathar : OMG, just imagine the firestorm if that happened...

What would the Mexican Government do in retaliation, recall all their citizens?

26 posted on 11/11/2011 11:54:51 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: greatvikingone

I disagree...helicopters are lovely to fly. By competent folks.


27 posted on 11/11/2011 11:57:14 AM PST by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: Rick_Michael

My post for 11-11-11

The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it’s nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.

This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.

— Harry Reasoner, 1971


28 posted on 11/11/2011 12:01:21 PM PST by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: Pan_Yan
"What would the Mexican Government do in retaliation, recall all their citizens?"

Hell no, open the floodgates on their southern border and bus them north.

29 posted on 11/11/2011 12:02:35 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: afnamvet; TheOldLady; BuckeyeTexan; Glenn; Cheerio; fuzzthatwuz; Cap Huff; aragorn; Smokin' Joe; ...
Questions. We have questions. Hellllloooooo?


30 posted on 11/11/2011 12:03:47 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: HOYA97

Thank you.


31 posted on 11/11/2011 12:04:46 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: greatvikingone

I don’t like the thought of anything flying with the most important part on the whole thing named “the Jesus Nut”.


32 posted on 11/11/2011 12:05:28 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: MestaMachine

My gut is telling me that this is much more than a crashed helicopter!!


33 posted on 11/11/2011 12:07:42 PM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Doesn’t necessarily have to be ME ne’er do wells, does it? Just add an X.


34 posted on 11/11/2011 12:09:11 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Abathar

I thought it was the Jesus Pin, but I leave the flying to the love of my life so I don’t actually know anything.


35 posted on 11/11/2011 12:11:14 PM PST by greatvikingone
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To: HOYA97

“My gut is telling me...”

I’d be surprised if it wasn’t.


36 posted on 11/11/2011 12:12:09 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: greatvikingone

I thought it was the nut that held the top of the rotor on, now if that baby comes off all the praying in the world won’t help you above 50’ or so.


37 posted on 11/11/2011 12:18:47 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: NormsRevenge

“He was the head of Mexican internal political affairs and security.”

Cartel, most likely. Mexico is on the edge of anarchy.


38 posted on 11/11/2011 12:50:44 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Probably just as much reason to connect it to the cartels, only the cartels would probably go for something more flashy. Accidents do happen, especially when there’s no way to prove otherwise.


39 posted on 11/11/2011 1:18:58 PM PST by yup2394871293
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To: CedarDave

Good point Cedar Dave...this is the 2nd...guy to go down..in that position of fighting drug lords.


40 posted on 11/11/2011 1:54:05 PM PST by rovenstinez
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