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Flashback: Kerry and Gingrich Hugging Trees -- and (Almost) Each Other
The Washington Post ^ | April 11, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 11/15/2011 4:35:57 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Yesterday's global-warming debate between John Kerry and Newt Gingrich was, as the moderator put it, "advertised as a smack-down and a prizefight." But those labels were too modest for Kerry.

"Welcome to our environmental version of the Lincoln-Douglas debates," the former Democratic presidential nominee told the crowd in the Russell Caucus Room. "We flipped a coin, and I picked Lincoln."

But something funny happened on the way to 1858. Gingrich, a former Republican House speaker, refused to play Douglas to Kerry's Lincoln, instead positioning himself as a tree-hugging green.

Before Kerry got a word in, Gingrich conceded that global warming is real, that humans have contributed to it and that "we should address it very actively." Gingrich held up Kerry's new book, "This Moment on Earth," and called it "a very interesting read." He then added a personal note about saving vulnerable species from climate change. "My name, Newt, actually comes from the Danish Knut, and there's been a major crisis in Germany over a polar bear named Knut," he confided.

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Kerry didn't know quite what to do with his agreeable opponent. "I'm a little confused about sort of where Newt comes from on this," he said at first. Later, Kerry tried to switch places with Gingrich, branding him a big-government liberal. "You know, this is a huge transition," he exclaimed. "You actually want the government to do it. I want the private sector to do it."

By the end of the debate, Lincoln/Kerry was embracing Douglas/Gingrich as a global-warming ally, saying things such as "What we need to do is what Newt just said."

"I'll lay odds if Newt Gingrich and I were responsible for making this happen, we could get in a room and in a week, we'd come up with a program and make it happen,"

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: barfalert; climatechange; gingrich; globalwarming; johnkerry; newt; newtgingrich; treehuggers; washingtoncompost
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1 posted on 11/15/2011 4:35:58 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping!


2 posted on 11/15/2011 4:39:22 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Gingrich: “the evidence is sufficient”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19dCkabVBbY


3 posted on 11/15/2011 4:48:58 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

So what is the goal of the Obama Axel paid bloggers and media to plow through all GOP candidates until there is no one left but Hunstmen?


4 posted on 11/15/2011 4:51:26 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: BarnacleCenturion; bamahead; Nervous Tick; SteamShovel; Tunehead54; golux; tubebender; ...
Thanx for the ping BarnacleCenturion !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 11/15/2011 4:52:03 AM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
There is a guy. He's the one with the stats on job creation. The one with military experience. The one who doesn't waver on life. The one whose hobby isn't golf but shooting and hunting. The one who knows what it's like to deal with the Fed bureaucracy from a states point if view. The one who is suing the EPA.

Rick Perry.

6 posted on 11/15/2011 4:55:28 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Is it too too late?

http://allenwest2012.ning.com/page/a-million-go-west


7 posted on 11/15/2011 4:56:31 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Newt’s a BS artist. I tried to pull the wool over my own eyes and maybe settle on Newt, but my wits got the better of me. He’s a shyster. No sale.


8 posted on 11/15/2011 4:56:50 AM PST by Huck (I predict record low turnout for the GOP primaries.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

If it’s Gingrich vs Obama in 2012, I will vote for Gingrich.

Simply put, the Republican nominee, whoever he or she is to be, will not be out to intentionally, deliberately bankrupt America and destroy the private sector free market capitalist economy.

Obama has this intent.


9 posted on 11/15/2011 4:56:52 AM PST by reaganator
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To: BarnacleCenturion

But he’s really good at debate questions.

Isn’t that all that matters?


10 posted on 11/15/2011 4:57:07 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Liberal partisan activists pretending to be journalists, once again meddling in conservative politics.

Go away liberal “journalists”.

You waste air.


11 posted on 11/15/2011 4:57:44 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Now there’s another guy I could get behind and he knows the issues and has led men into battle.


12 posted on 11/15/2011 4:58:30 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

During the debate Perry demonstrated that America’s foe during the cold war was Russia. He must’ve said Russia three times.

I would not do that, you would not do that.


13 posted on 11/15/2011 5:00:41 AM PST by reaganator
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

“So what is the goal of the Obama Axel paid bloggers”

Wth are you talking about? This is an article from 2007.

If you support this global warming urgent action is needed BS the only liberal blogger here is you.


14 posted on 11/15/2011 5:04:54 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The over the decades baggage Newt has accumulated is his primary disqualification—and it is a serious one in that he has to constantly backtrack and all the very visual negative material he has provided the opposition will be hard to overcome.
However,I’m willing to—because of his political savvy—allow him to serve as President Herman Cain’s Vice President.


15 posted on 11/15/2011 5:08:55 AM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I’m not an Obama paid blogger and didn’t have to wade through andything to remember this incident.

I also remember the capitulations during the Clinton administration. Like one or two of the ten points of the Contract With America actually being accomplished.

To make matters worse, he married his high school geometry teacher after secretly dating in high school.

NOOT is just out for NOOT. Get over it.


16 posted on 11/15/2011 5:09:37 AM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: reaganator
Give me a break. I do it all the time. I grew up in the 80's and they were Russians. I was in basic in '90 and we threw grenades and shot at "Ivan" and he was Russian.

If Rick Perry was the CEO of Whataburger it might mean something but he's not, he's an ex Air Force Captain having served all over the world. He's the CEO of the 15th largest economy in the world, larger than India's. He's helped create an environment in Texas that has created 40% of all jobs created since the Obama experiment.

Rick Perry has a record to back up his rhetoric and he isn't out hugging trees and telling pro abort groups "You need someone like me in the Whitehouse."

17 posted on 11/15/2011 5:12:32 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Happy Rain
If you are willing to have Newt as Cain's VP you are willing to have Newt as your President.

"I'm gonna let Newt take this one" Cain on Medicare question

"You may as well" Newt

18 posted on 11/15/2011 5:15:41 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: reaganator

“If it’s Gingrich vs Obama in 2012, I will vote for Gingrich.

Simply put, the Republican nominee, whoever he or she is to be, will not be out to intentionally, deliberately bankrupt America and destroy the private sector free market capitalist economy.

Obama has this intent.”

I agree and I have very much come around to wanting to vote for Speaker Gingrich.


19 posted on 11/15/2011 5:15:51 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: normy

“”I’m gonna let Newt take this one” Cain on Medicare question”

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Did you even watch the Cain - Gingrich style debate?

They’re comfortable with each other, and with their respective strong points.

Gingrich is a Medicare WONK. Cain isn’t. Cain smiled and handed the question deeply suited to Gingrich, while Cain thought about his answer.

I thought that moment was one of the high points of the debate. Very understandable, a moment showing intelligence, and teamwork.


20 posted on 11/15/2011 5:21:35 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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To: normy

If it’s Perry vs Obama in 2012 I will vote for Perry.

He is not my choice for nominee though.

I want Gingrich to be the nominee, I believe he can adequately dismiss all negative issues the Obama Chicago political machine can bring up.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 5:21:45 AM PST by reaganator
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To: reaganator
During the debate Perry demonstrated that America’s foe during the cold war was Russia. He must’ve said Russia three times.

Worse...he misquoted Reagan, saying "RUSSIA would end up in the ash heap of history". Painful.

22 posted on 11/15/2011 5:29:30 AM PST by montag813
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To: normy

Cain can use a man like Newt to help navigate the DC cesspool.
Cain,not being a professional politician (his greatest virtue in that it means he is uncorrupted), needs a scout to point out which snakes in the pit are vipers and which are not.
If something happens to Cain and Newt becomes president? He would continue the Cain doctrine until he earns the right to install his own by winning the presidency himself.
He would indeed be a dishonorable sob if he were to do otherwise—and Newt ain’t THAT despicable.


23 posted on 11/15/2011 5:31:13 AM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: SumProVita

“I have very much come around to wanting to vote for Speaker Gingrich”

Why? He says that urgent action is needed to stop global warming, he supported the obamacare mandate, he went along with Clinton’s tax hikes, he attacked Paul Ryan’s plan to cut entitlements, he supports Cap and Trade, Tarp, bailouts, etc.. wow can it get any worse?


24 posted on 11/15/2011 5:35:59 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: reaganator
I appreciate your response. I remember when FR was like this. I understand why you like Newt. I like Newt too but I don't trust him to do the hard things when he gets to DC. If he does, great and of course I will vote for him vs. Obama.
25 posted on 11/15/2011 5:38:55 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: montag813

I was embarrassed for the man, Perry when he was stumbling through the “Russia” misquotes.


26 posted on 11/15/2011 5:39:09 AM PST by reaganator
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To: reaganator
Simple put I did that last time and how did that work out for me?

There's a line form one of my all time favorite westerns 'Open Range that goes like this:

“You may not know this but there are things that gnaw at a man worse than dying“

And voting for a Rino or an inside the beltway Huckster is one of those things!
27 posted on 11/15/2011 5:43:10 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: normy

Oh yeah me too.Seriously how many states is it too late in?


28 posted on 11/15/2011 5:43:44 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Yes, it could. We could have Obama again.


29 posted on 11/15/2011 5:44:47 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Happy Rain
I think you have the wrong perception of Cain. He is a DC insider. The NRA that he has been having all these troubles with was a lobbyist group which he ran for almost 3 years.His whole job was to rub elbows go to cocktail parties and get to know politicians. He was a top adviser to Dole/Kemp. He ran for Senate and for President.

He knows everybody in DC and everybody knows him.

I don't even know what the Cain doctrine is. If I were ever to consider voting for Cain I would just vote for Newt instead. Newt is the brains and the policy guy. Cain would just be a figure head.

There are 3 guys, Newt, Romney and Perry that have records to run on that are extensive and will also bring their own philosophy to DC.

30 posted on 11/15/2011 5:46:27 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

And both Newt and Romney are insiders with a record of RINO acts and placating ‘DemonRATS’ and Perry Texas record is full of ‘Pay to Play’ that rivals that of Bill Richardson.


31 posted on 11/15/2011 5:50:06 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I didn't see it that way. Especially after watching Cain fumble his questions on collective bargaining and Libya. It was the same reaction he had when he was asked the Medicare question.

Why on earth would a person ever vote for Cain if they are seriously considering Newt as an alternative?

If it really came down to Cain of Newt why not just pick the guy who already knows everything? Cain might be VP material but I don't know what he really offers a ticket.

If Newt were to get the nod I would think he would be smart to pick up a young policy wonk, say Paul Ryan.

Cain doesn't offer me anything that Perry doesn't already have except Cain doesn't have a record to examine. At least Newt does.

32 posted on 11/15/2011 5:50:52 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: reaganator

If it’s Gingrich vs Obama in 2012, I will vote for Gingrich.

Simply put, the Republican nominee, whoever he or she is to be, will not be out to intentionally, deliberately bankrupt America and destroy the private sector free market capitalist economy.

Obama has this intent.

****

You’re absolutely RIGHT. As much as I can’t stand Romney, as much “baggage” as Newt carries, as much lack of experience ANY of these candidates carry, whomever gets the nomination will be fine and will NOT, as you say, have the underlying intention of taking down America. I really do not feel, as putrid even as Romney is, that he has that intent ....(and I am a total in the tank Cain supporter, just for the record).

Really — all of us here need to have this in the front of our minds. They way everyone goes about attacking each and every candidate just weaknens us in the eyes of our opponents.

I WILL pull the lever for Anybody But Obama — ought to be the mantra. We don’t do it and the guy’s gonna be in for a second term.


33 posted on 11/15/2011 5:51:14 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: noprogs; BarnacleCenturion

blah blah blah blah Obama is for Obama and Perry is for Perry and noot is for noot and congress is for congress (AND INSIDER TRADING) and senate is for senate but the dems are for themselves,class/race warfare,tyranny of OBAMA WITH THE MSM HELP.

I fully realize today is bash Newt until he makes a comment that MSNBC and Joe laugh and mock day/week but at least state who it is you are backing to downplay Gingrich.Sheeesh...


34 posted on 11/15/2011 5:51:28 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I don’t know but someone would be smart to start throwing his name around as a VP choice.


35 posted on 11/15/2011 5:52:24 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Kartographer

WhoEVER the Republican nominee is to be, he or she will not be intent on deliberately bankrupting America and destroying the private sector free market capitalist economy.

Obama will continue this destruction if re-elected.

A stay home no vote will be just as helpful to Obama’s re-election as an Obama vote.

Not voting for the Republican nominee because he or she is not acceptable to you will re-elect Obama.

How much will that “gnaw at you” knowing that you helped re-elect Obama?


36 posted on 11/15/2011 5:53:02 AM PST by reaganator
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To: SumProVita

“We could have Obama again.”

Obama is not running for the republican nomination. This is a classic “take my RINO or the sky will fall” BS.

Gingrich will not win the republican nomination but he may very well prevent Cain from winning it. And Perry as they say is already dead.


37 posted on 11/15/2011 5:53:10 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: normy

Cain is far, far more electable at the top of the ticket than Newt is.

I hope they run together as a team. But Gingrich should be the VP, for campaign reasons.

(yes I’m absolutely, guilty as charged Machiavellian that way)

Winning matters.


38 posted on 11/15/2011 5:56:14 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Personally, I am tired of this cliche: This is a classic “take my RINO or the sky will fall” BS.

By the way, I’m still watching Perry too.....and Cain. ;-)


39 posted on 11/15/2011 5:57:21 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: reaganator
Its your type of thinking is what got us in that mess to begin with. Anything is acceptable as long as your side wins and look where that's got us.

"For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?"
Mark 8:36

Keep selling out and see what it gets you.

40 posted on 11/15/2011 5:59:22 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: reaganator

Exactly.Obama is spending millions on dividing and conquering.He is in Hawaii now playing golf as his fat lard behind wife dines on steaks; while his rent a mobs kill and rape.He has ignored a subpoena,dissed Israel out loud,and done nothing but watch a BBall game on an air craft carrier with his fake aviator wings.He is a mockery to America he must go.


41 posted on 11/15/2011 6:00:25 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: BarnacleCenturion

He still believes in manmade global warming and the skeptics are wrong.

Pray for America


42 posted on 11/15/2011 6:01:47 AM PST by bray (Take the Cain Train off the Plantation)
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To: reaganator

The cold war was with the USSR. Russia plus all the eastern block they controlled.


43 posted on 11/15/2011 6:09:55 AM PST by goat granny
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To: noprogs

now list for us his bad points...his political baggage goes much farther than dating a teacher. :O)


44 posted on 11/15/2011 6:12:16 AM PST by goat granny
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To: reaganator

Amen!

Plus, Newt has demonstrated that he will get in the face of the press. I like that. If the press throws baggage at him, Newt is gonna respond in kind with baggage on the press and the Marxist in the WH.


45 posted on 11/15/2011 6:14:35 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: normy
Funny you should say that...

READ THIS

Now, to the: pull an old Gingrich article out of they're butts posters; post the sofa/Pelosi picture and get it over with already...


46 posted on 11/15/2011 6:15:21 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: reaganator

I wouldn’t bet more than 50 cents on Newt doing any better.I have a long memory on his liberal crap. Newt is for Newt.......


47 posted on 11/15/2011 6:15:39 AM PST by goat granny
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To: normy

during the 80’s they were russian’s. They were the USSR The United soviet socialist republic and ruled the eastern block with tanks and guns, along with Berlin. Russia wasn’t on the map USSR was..


48 posted on 11/15/2011 6:18:19 AM PST by goat granny
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To: swampfox101

The problem is Newt will run out of baggage to throw long before the press does.


49 posted on 11/15/2011 6:20:26 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: reaganator

“How much will that “gnaw at you” knowing that you helped re-elect Obama?”

Well put.


50 posted on 11/15/2011 6:20:55 AM PST by swampfox101
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