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Rift Over Tim Tebow Custom "Jesus" Jerseys
yahoo.com ^ | 11.15.11

Posted on 11/15/2011 6:26:54 AM PST by InvisibleChurch

He's the model citizen, the guy you want your daughter to date, yet Tim Tebow can't help being the most polarizing figure in all of professional sports.

And during the upcoming holiday shopping season, Tebow is going to get even more controversial -- once again without any action on his part.

A handful of Denver fans have decided a customized Tim Tebow jersey would make for the perfect Christmas gift. What could possibly be troubling about that? A whole lot, depending on who you ask.

Rather than have the last name "Tebow" on the back of the Broncos jersey, these fans have placed "Jesus" above Tebow's No. 15.

Not everyone thinks it's appropriate. Some fans told CNN (via KTVQ) that the new custom apparel is blasphemous.

"Sports is one thing, and Jesus is another thing," Traci Yown, a mom Christmas shopping for her son told the network. "I like to have their names, their last names on the jerseys. I'm a Christian, but I mean I wouldn't want people going around having Jesus on the back of their jerseys."

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostgame.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: athletes; broncos; chat; christians; denver; sports; tebow; timtebow
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To: jtal

re: “Christian belief can not be boiled down to WWJD. I’ve heard this phrase used to justify all kinds of dubious beliefs and actions.”

I agree with you on this statement, but I don’t think the “WWJD” phrase should take the blame for people who use it to justify whacky ideas. I know you are not claiming that and you only picked out that phrase because a lot of people know about it - but, I think there are always going to be people who take things - especially religious ideas - to places never intended.

Heck, the Bible itself is used to justify all sorts of un-Godly ideas and actions - yet, the Bible is not to blame for that - people are (I know - I stole that from “Guns don’t kill people”, etc.).

As to the “Jesus” Tbow shirts - well, I wouldn’t wear one as a Christian because I don’t think it’s a very clear message. Is the person wearing it simply making a joke? Is the person claiming Jesus and Tebow are one and the same? And, as has been pointed out, the name “Jesus” is quite common among our hispanic brethren and therefore many people will simply think the person wearing it is named “Jesus”. Any so-called evangelical value is flaky at best.

On the other hand, are we saying they shouldn’t be allowed to make the shirts? What authority would do that? Maybe good taste and solid theology would say they shouldn’t, but as has been mentioned - just walk into any Christian bookstore and you will see all kinds of dubious “Christian” trinkets with equally dubious evangelical value.

Still, the name “Jesus” makes people uncomfortable. You can talk with people about God or even use the word Christ and no one gets upset, but as soon as you say the name “Jesus” - things get much more tense. So, are people upset with these shirts because of taste or because the name Jesus is unsettleing to them?

Just some thoughts.


41 posted on 11/15/2011 7:32:31 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Niteranger68

So you are saying that I have to buy into commercialism to be saved?


42 posted on 11/15/2011 7:33:22 AM PST by rzman21
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To: tioga
I look at that shirt and it screams that Tebow follows Jesus....so what. A little tacky, but not offensive. This is a mountain out of am mole hill kind of thing.

I agree. Putting the name of the Lord out there as a believer is not offensive. No one is worshiping the shirt. No one is worshiping Tebow. No one thinks Tebow is claiming to be Jesus. The media just wants us Christians to hide in little cubbyholes.

43 posted on 11/15/2011 7:36:29 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: Rinnwald

Jesus certainly hasn’t been visible at Penn State.....they could have used Him. It is refreshing to see a football player unafraid to speak his faith.


44 posted on 11/15/2011 7:41:14 AM PST by tioga
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To: InvisibleChurch

Personally, I thought “HE HATE ME” was hilarious.


45 posted on 11/15/2011 7:43:52 AM PST by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
memes

Sorry. I don´t recognize words invented by atheists.

46 posted on 11/15/2011 7:49:18 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: onedoug

Prove that it was, and prove that this makes the word unusable.


47 posted on 11/15/2011 7:54:33 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: rzman21

About as much as it is claimed you must not darken the door of a “megachurch” to be saved.


48 posted on 11/15/2011 7:55:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Jesus? What? You'd prefer Jorge?


49 posted on 11/15/2011 7:58:04 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: rzman21

on the other hand— didn’t Jesus say something about those who are ashamed of Him and His Name on earth He would be ashamed of before His Father? In a world where too many called by the Name are afraid or ashamed of the Name and seem to think it an offense ....? We are assured,Sir , in the Sacred writings that the Christian is an offense to the world when they do
the work of Jesus. Because the World cannot understand the things of God. So I wonder which cheapens the faith more those of the world called Christian but afraid of offending the world? or those who display their pride in Tebow as a Christian and football QB?


50 posted on 11/15/2011 8:01:19 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: NativeNewYorker

“..a culture-wide inkblot test. The haters, the believers, the ninnies, all come out and self-identify...”

Ha! I agree NNYer and this thread keeps proving it. Tebow has a lot of weight on his shoulders with that Denver Team. It is good to see him take stands that upset the HBO Sports crowd by simply stating forthrightly and regularly who he follows.


51 posted on 11/15/2011 8:06:24 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck






52 posted on 11/15/2011 8:18:12 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: HiTech RedNeck
From Wiki...it was coined by the British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene (1976)[1][5] as a concept for discussion of evolutionary principles in explaining the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena.

As to the second part that ¨I don´t recognize words invented by atheists,¨ that seems quite clear. Especially ¨pop¨ atheists.

53 posted on 11/15/2011 8:18:59 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: onedoug

So does it fail to have a dictionary meaning today that can be agreed upon or require an assumption of a worldview that excludes God?

Atheists invented the modern playing card deck, yet do you get all verklempt with holy righteousness when someone talks about having an ace up his sleeve or playing a wild card?

Talk about straining out gnats and swallowing camels. Memes are good when they are blessed by God, bad when they are abused by Satan. There is little in existing language to correspond to the term. “Idealet”? “Concept-bite”?


54 posted on 11/15/2011 8:28:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: InvisibleChurch

You know when those guys kneel down in the endzone after a touchdown and make the sign of the cross or look up and blow a kiss? I wonder if the Lord is really interested in thier scoring a touchdown, somehow, I think not ...


55 posted on 11/15/2011 8:32:05 AM PST by Scythian
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To: rzman21

I think that this is a slap in the face to all Christians NO MATTER what domination you worship in. I do not think that Tebow should be judged for the fan that customized the jersey. But, I do feel he should release a statement against the jersey. No individual should ever be called Jesus. It absolutely makes me sick...


56 posted on 11/15/2011 8:33:33 AM PST by cmck5
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To: HiTech RedNeck
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57 posted on 11/15/2011 8:37:18 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
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58 posted on 11/15/2011 8:40:03 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As in aw, shucks!


59 posted on 11/15/2011 8:40:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: cmck5

A lot of Mexicans do, and you’d think their dominant Roman Catholic Church would have a kitten about it... they don’t.


60 posted on 11/15/2011 8:41:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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