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More boat trouble for Norway Navy
The Foreigner, Norway ^ | 17th November, 2011

Posted on 11/26/2011 9:47:54 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

More boat trouble for Norway Navy

The Norwegian military’s new MTBs have been banned from sailing for safety reasons.

KNM Storm during gun exercise, Bergen Photo: Forsvarets mediearkiv

Reports suggest the Mandal-produced Motor Torpedo Boats’ hydraulic systems cannot handle temperatures when at high speed.

The latest episode is just one of several in a series of incidents that have beset the project. It was first discovered the vessels were not able to sail at top speed of 60 knots, parts have worn out quicker than anticipated because of gas turbine vibration problems, and there was a change in operational requirements.

None of the weapons systems had been tested, costs shot up, which meant delivery was delayed by two years. The entire project is now almost three years behind schedule, reports Bergens Tidende.

Moreover, whilst the MTBs ‘enjoy’ their life moored in the sunshine, it is still unclear how much shipyard Umoe will have to spend on the latest round of improvements. Costs in the last three years have totalled 230 million kroner.

Director Anders Nybø says to NRK, “they are complicated vessels. We are going to solve this, and that is what we are focusing on. We are not so concerned with cost at the moment and are very keen to ensure they are back in service.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: missileboat; navy; norway; skjold; surfaceeffect
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1 posted on 11/26/2011 9:47:59 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They’re just pining for the fjords.......


2 posted on 11/26/2011 9:52:11 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s an amazing concept vessel, and no doubt they’ll iron out the bugs.

These boats are a huge leap, much like the Osprey tilt rotors were to vertical aviation.


3 posted on 11/26/2011 9:54:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sukhoi-30mki.
...hydraulic systems cannot handle temperatures when at high speed.
Bloody Vikings!


4 posted on 11/26/2011 9:56:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

A New generation Viking ships, The SKJOLD class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyPsZ7kBQK0

Very good promotional videos showing the concept at youtube.
Despite the teething problems, this is the future of missile patrol boats.


5 posted on 11/26/2011 10:18:02 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: exit82
Reports suggest the Mandal-produced Motor Torpedo Boats’ hydraulic systems cannot handle temperatures when at high speed.

Where is that European engineering we hear so much about?

They’re just pining for the fjords.......

Very expensive civilian coast guard ships?

6 posted on 11/26/2011 11:43:05 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

60 knots is crazy fast !


7 posted on 11/27/2011 1:08:31 AM PST by onona (FR is continuing education)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Totally useless. I don’t see any fishing platforms, and I don’t see how this boat could be made into a fishing boat. Slower than a bass boat, higher fuel consumption than a deep V, I mean come on, who wants this?


8 posted on 11/27/2011 3:11:35 AM PST by MrKatykelly
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To: MrKatykelly

Repower with Pielsticks.
That’ll show em...


9 posted on 11/27/2011 3:17:28 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So how does it ourrun a cruise missle? Norway Navy, funny.


10 posted on 11/27/2011 4:11:39 AM PST by Evergolightly (Ones conclusions are founded in the path traveled.)
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To: Travis McGee
Looks amazing...

Are our Navy and/or Coast Guard looking to aquire these?

11 posted on 11/27/2011 5:29:19 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
From the side, the profile looks similar to the old WW II PT boats..

Instead of "They were expendable"..we can retitle it.."They were 'complicated' "

12 posted on 11/27/2011 5:31:14 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: Evergolightly

Who would waste a cruise missile on a boat that small?


13 posted on 11/27/2011 5:57:59 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Travis McGee
Window angles on the bridge look like a huge reflection source. I know they did it for stealth reasons but a flash of light like that can be seen a LONG way off. Interesting idea. I'd like to see it when they have all the bugs worked out.
14 posted on 11/27/2011 6:09:19 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Composite construction is a factor I would be concerned about. The damned stuff will burn like a paper napkin.


15 posted on 11/27/2011 6:09:54 AM PST by em2vn
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To: GeronL

These boats have traveled trans-Atlantic on their own hulls. They have a radar profile like a wooden rowboat, and can go 60kts. They fire ship-killing missiles, and have a 76mm Oto Malera Super Rapid that can hit a building on land or a boat at sea at ten miles.

Like the Osprey, they are a “game changer” in their class. Like the Osprey, they are going to have a lot of teething pains.


16 posted on 11/27/2011 6:52:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Evergolightly; archy
How did the Israelis destroy every Osa missile boat that came out to fight with 50KM Styx ship-killer missiles in 1973, when the IDF boats had only 25KM Gabriel missiles?

They didn't outrun the Styx missiles either. They spoofed them with EW, went closer, and killed the Osas. Every one that came out to fight. After that, the Syrians and Egyptians kept their remaining Osas in port.

Even though the Arabs had the latest Soviet anti-ship missiles with double the range of the Israeli missiles.

You can't hit what you can't see. That's why going carbon fiber and ultra-stealth is so critical. And there is no way to make a metal boat disappear like one of these carbon fiber Skjolds.

17 posted on 11/27/2011 6:58:11 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: em2vn

ALL vessels in that size range leave nothing but an oil slick when hit by a missile. Doesn’t matter if they are steel, aluminum, or carbon.

The key is that you must be as hard as possible to target. These vessels are almost invisible to radar. No metal boat can come close to their stealthyness.


18 posted on 11/27/2011 7:00:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ken5050; GeronL
Not yet, but they did make a transatlantic visit to America. It has extremely impressive sea-keeping for a 150 footer.

It is a surface-effect ship, not a "hovercraft." Basically, they are a catamaran with rubber skirts fore and aft. Air ducts lift the narrow twin hulls. At rest, they need 6' of water, with the air ducts on, the boat rises until only 3' of the hulls are in the water. This radically reduces their wetted surface (friction). The pressurized air between the hulls dampens wave shock to almost nil, allowing it to go twice as fast as vessels in its size class in the same sea states.

19 posted on 11/27/2011 7:08:04 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Brilliant

“Cruise missile” covers a lot of territory, from giants that can kill aircraft carriers on down.

But you can’t hit what you can’t see.


20 posted on 11/27/2011 7:09:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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