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Congress to Vote Next Week on EXPLICITLY Creating a Police State
ZeroHedge ^ | 11/27/2011 | Submitted by George Washington

Posted on 11/27/2011 7:22:36 AM PST by DManA

IF YOU THOUGHT POLICE BRUTALITY WAS BAD … WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE WHAT CONGRESS WANTS TO DO NEXT WEEK

The police brutality against peaceful protesters in Berkeley, Davis, Oakland and elsewhere is bad enough.

But next week, Congress will vote on explicitly creating a police state.

The ACLU’s Washington legislative office explains:

The Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself.

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The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world.

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The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself. The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; blackhelicopter; conspiracy; lindseygraham; paranoia; policestate; possecomitatus
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Our good good friend Lindsey Graham is in this up to his ugly little nose.
1 posted on 11/27/2011 7:22:37 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Nacht und Nebel


2 posted on 11/27/2011 7:27:16 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Roll the stone away, Let the guilty pay, It's Independence Day)
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To: DManA
Two problems I see; 1) The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits US Military from civil arrest/confining within the US, and 2) The US Military has no jurisdiction for civil arrest outside the US. This is wrong no matter how you look at it.
3 posted on 11/27/2011 7:28:13 AM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Traveler59

It’s wrong since they are voting next week and this is the first time I’ve heard about it. How about a little debate? How about the republican candidates weigh in on it?


4 posted on 11/27/2011 7:31:12 AM PST by DManA
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To: Traveler59

A third problem is that the government refuses to be constrained by any law restricting its power. So what the Bill of Rights, or the Posse Comitatus act says, is wholly irrelevant.


5 posted on 11/27/2011 7:32:10 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: DManA
protest is considered “low-level terrorism

Except where the President explicitly endorses it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH99q2CRNZg

And when he doesn't, like a Tea Party event, the army might just show up?

6 posted on 11/27/2011 7:33:17 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Finally and issue that both left and right can come together on and tell our government NO!


7 posted on 11/27/2011 7:35:36 AM PST by Grunthor (pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Traveler59
Two problems I see; 1) The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits US Military from civil arrest/confining within the US, and 2) The US Military has no jurisdiction for civil arrest outside the US. This is wrong no matter how you look at it.

Whatever restrictions exist because of current law, can be overturned in a moment by the passage of a different law.

8 posted on 11/27/2011 7:36:06 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: DManA
Tea Party event?

"Round up the usual suspects."

9 posted on 11/27/2011 7:39:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Roll the stone away, Let the guilty pay, It's Independence Day)
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To: Traveler59

Since when has current law constrained the regime?

And yes, I wholly understand that the answer to that question, becomes the start of a revolution and either the fall of the nation or the restoration of Constitutional government.


10 posted on 11/27/2011 7:43:13 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Grunthor
“Finally and issue that both left and right can come together on and tell our government NO!”

As some of the other posters on this thread this is the first I've heard about this piece of proposed legislation. So, I want to learn more. However, if this law empowers our military to take action against U.S. citizens on U.S. soil then I believe the Posse Comitatus Act will have to be amended or even rescinded. I would be opposed to our military being empowered to take action against U.S. citizens while on U.S. soil. However, keep in mind that we've had U.S. citizens show up on the battlefield in both Afghanistan and Iraq. So, I'm ok with wasting them in situations such as this. Also, if we are ever going to shut down illegal immigration on our southern border it will be necessary to militarize it I think which will require some amending to the Posse Comitatus Act to do this. So, guess we need to do some listening and learning and then ping our respective congress persons and senators....

11 posted on 11/27/2011 7:46:26 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: DManA

“The police brutality against peaceful protesters in Berkeley, Davis, Oakland and elsewhere is bad enough.”

For some reason, I sort of have trouble taking this article seriously.....lol


12 posted on 11/27/2011 7:49:10 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: Traveler59
Habeas Corpus, anyone?
13 posted on 11/27/2011 7:51:51 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Traveler59
Habeas Corpus, anyone?
14 posted on 11/27/2011 7:52:01 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Traveler59
Habeas Corpus, anyone?

If this posts more than once, sorry, I keep getting 503 errors...

15 posted on 11/27/2011 7:52:41 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: coloradan

I believe Fortney Stark is on record gloating about that idea.


16 posted on 11/27/2011 7:53:44 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: coloradan

I believe Fortney Stark is on record gloating about that idea.


17 posted on 11/27/2011 7:53:59 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; Southack
There is historical precedent for this.
18 posted on 11/27/2011 7:57:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (For the balance of the day, I will reply to a thread on another thread.)
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To: Lazamataz

this is all about the drones...got a pesky little militia leader? no need to send in the FBI for a messy takedown in front of the media. just send a predator to do your dirty work


19 posted on 11/27/2011 8:05:08 AM PST by jneesy (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a mans character, give him power.)
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To: DManA

First I`ve heard of this,get it to the Blaze and they`ll investigate it. Even try and get it to go viral like drudge.


20 posted on 11/27/2011 8:07:25 AM PST by nomad
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