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Voters Flee Democratic Party in Key Swing States
ABC News ^ | November 7, 2011 | Amy Bingham

Posted on 12/08/2011 5:05:48 PM PST by Southnsoul

President Obama’s uphill battle to re-election is getting steeper.

A report released today by the centrist think-tank Third Way showed that more than 825,000 voters in eight key battleground states have fled the Democratic Party since Obama won election in 2008.

“The numbers show that Democrats’ path to victory just got harder,” said Lanae Erickson, the report’s co-author. “We are seeing both an increase in independents and a decrease in Democrats and that means the coalition they have to assemble is going to rely even more on independents in 2012 than it did in 2008.”

Amid frustrating partisan gridlock and unprecedentedly low party-approval ratings, the number of voters registering under a major party is falling fast, but it is also falling disproportionately.

In eight states that will be must-wins in 2012 – Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina and Pennsylvania – Democrats lost 5.4 percent of their registered voters while Republicans lost 3.1 percent. The number of independent voters in those states jumped 3.4 percent.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: Nevada; US: New Hampshire; US: New Mexico; US: North Carolina; US: Pennsylvania
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1 posted on 12/08/2011 5:05:51 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: Southnsoul

“Independent” —destructive, disgusting, clueless, convictionless all rolled up into one harmful little fuzz ball.


2 posted on 12/08/2011 5:10:09 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: Southnsoul

You can flee the party but the party can always fleece you.


3 posted on 12/08/2011 5:11:34 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Mygirlsmom
“Independent” —destructive, disgusting, clueless, convictionless all rolled up into one harmful little fuzz ball.

"Independent" keeps me off a lot of mailing lists.

4 posted on 12/08/2011 5:15:57 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Southnsoul
'Independent voter':

1) Wet finger.

2) Expose to horizontal air column.

3) Determine mean magnetic bearing and velocity.

4) Turn zombie and lurch forth until encountering resistance.

Spineless, navel-gazing pissants.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

5 posted on 12/08/2011 5:16:57 PM PST by Viking2002 (Hippies smell.)
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To: Southnsoul

Looks like voters are fed up with both parties, and who can blame them?


6 posted on 12/08/2011 5:21:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: Southnsoul

“In eight states that will be must-wins in 2012 – Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina and Pennsylvania”

My thoughts (which are probably worth everything you’re paying for them, lol).

North Carolina - Almost surely goes GOP in 2012. Virginia and Indiana (two other states Obama got in 2008) should go solidly red in 2012, IMHO.

Florida - I consider Florida to be 1 of 3 “Decider” states - Fla, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. I believe whoever takes at least 2 out of 3 of them will win the election. My gut feeling is that the GOP will have a slight edge in Florida, at least, though it’s not a lock. Maybe a 3-5 point win?

Pennsylvania - Just don’t know on this one. I think a strong GOP ticket can take it this time, though I also think it will be a harder prize to take than Ohio or Florida.


7 posted on 12/08/2011 5:22:11 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Southnsoul
"...while candidates mobilize their party’s base by talking about ideology, they will have to focus on nonpartisan reform measures in order to make their case to independents."

If this joker is correct, it will be a hard time for obama to sell his class warfare against the "1%."

"Nonpartisan reform measures" is why so many casual observers here don't like Newt. But according to Ali, "the independents" ought to love him.

8 posted on 12/08/2011 5:22:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...
Democrats bleeding in Pa.

I hope all of us know that it is really stupid to register independent in a closed primary state like Pa.

9 posted on 12/08/2011 5:23:28 PM PST by Tribune7 (Perry or Santorum)
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To: Southnsoul

awesome news


10 posted on 12/08/2011 5:25:21 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Southnsoul
Money quote:

“What [Obama] needs to do is present himself as somebody above partisan politics,” IndependentVoting.org’s Ali said.

Wonder if there is one stinkin PR firm working for the GOP that can prove this is not true.....unless the GOP elite don't want to win?

11 posted on 12/08/2011 5:29:39 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

That’s all well and good, but you are not the “Independent” I am referring to. The people who swing back and forth, i.e. those that decide elections are truly lacking either a moral compass or a well-developed intellect.


12 posted on 12/08/2011 5:31:49 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: Southnsoul

Looks like ACORN will just have to make up more names and submit more phony absentee ballots.


13 posted on 12/08/2011 5:39:09 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

“unless the GOP elite don’t want to win? “

I believe the GOP elite would prefer 4 more of 0 than 4 of Newt!


14 posted on 12/08/2011 6:05:46 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (When every candidate is running in last place, everyone is in first place.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Sorry I have to call you out, but there’s no difference between the Democrat and Republican parties. Everyday dozens of Republican politicians are called “RINO’s, when in fact, they embody exactly what the Republican Party stands for: socialism, at a slightly lesser velocity.

Per the USA Today, as of 2004 there were 74 Million Democrats, 55 million Republicans, and 42 million Independents. If you have updated numbers, pelase share them. I imagine that with the Tea Party movement, many have fled the Republican Party to become independent, just as it appears is happening to the Demcratic party.

Name sling as you please, but I’m not going to play a part in the two-party, gang mentality system the Founding Fathers warned against.


15 posted on 12/08/2011 6:13:29 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Southnsoul

Anyone reading my posts over the last 7 years will know I am a conservative. Of this there is NO DOUBT. I have paid my dues.

Now that being said.... there is something going on here folks, and this paradigm shift towards independents is demonstrative of it.

It is the Establishment vs. the People.

The Establishment is made up of people who are in current “government/public” service. Their goals are to keep their jobs, move up the power ladder, and get a raise. They do not give a rats patooty about the People - us.

It is BOTH parties. Republican and Democrat.

Non-establishment candidates like Cain, Bachman, Paul etc get the wholly crap beat out of them till the give up and go away - and I say this with out regard for whether or not I support them. The Anti-Establishment candidates get torn to shreds until they leave, and they nearly always leave (see Cain).

This move towards the Independent demonstrates this unconscious recognition of the Establishment vs the People reality.

Want another example?

The Tea Party.

Thus far it has remained a faction of the GOP, but if this trend continues - where the GOP establishment rules, you will see it splinter off to independent as well.


16 posted on 12/08/2011 6:19:03 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Tribune7

I believe a large number of Dems are registering GOP in PA so they can “help” nominate Willard....so Obama can win the general against his chosen opponent.


17 posted on 12/08/2011 6:25:48 PM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: Mygirlsmom

“Independent” —destructive, disgusting, clueless, convictionless all rolled up into one harmful little fuzz ball.”

Please do not confuse “independent” with “moderate.” I happen to be an independent for two reasons; one, The Republican Party is too far left for me to want to belong to it. Not in what they say but in what they do. Two, my state requires no party affiliation.

Even if my state required party affiliation, I would register as “independent” proudly.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 6:30:12 PM PST by Grunthor
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To: Southnsoul
Voters Flee Democrat Communist Party in Key Swing States
19 posted on 12/08/2011 6:33:06 PM PST by sternup
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To: Viking2002

You are correct. All should be forced to belong to one (D) half of the ruling party or the (R) other. All others should be put up against a wall and shot.


20 posted on 12/08/2011 6:33:31 PM PST by Grunthor
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To: JDW11235
We don't have to declare a party affiliation in Wisconsin, and that is not of which I speak. Every election cycle, the winner is determined by a certain percentage of people in "the middle, who don't seem to have any solid criteria by which they make their voting decisions.

Labels aside, the values and intents of each side have been clearly defined-moreso in the last 10 years or so as the Socialist hard Left has become comfortable in revealing what they are truly all about. (Not to say that those who run as so-called conservatives don't walk back on their campaign rhetoric - that is a differnt issue.)

But for those who waffle back and forth between what are now such clearly defined stances-I'm sorry I have absolutely no use for such people - they do tremendous damage to our nation. It's the old adage - "if you don't know what you stand for...you'll fall for anything."

21 posted on 12/08/2011 6:33:43 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: Grunthor
Please do not confuse “independent” with “moderate.”

Good point, thanks...I tend to equate them as the same thing, i.e. the "mushy middle". I certainly understand the desire of some not to be party affiliated.

22 posted on 12/08/2011 6:43:24 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Ok, I can agree with you there. I just was taken aback by the adjectives ascribed to independents, thanks for clearing that up.

In that case, I agree with you. I don’t understand people that waffle back and forth, either. I like the line used in “The Shawshank Redemption”: “Get busy livin’, or get busy dyin’.” I personally believe that everything is black and white, just that we mere mortals see in shades of grey. That having been said, if we’re trying to stick to black and white, I have found that the “shades” of grey become more and more stark over the years. But hey, I’m also one of those people who’s shocked by practically nothing. I knew Obama was a marxist satanist because he himself said so, those who voted for him and were surprised were either ignorant, stupid, or both.

P.S. I love the line you said, “if you don’t know what you stand for...you’ll fall for anything.” And sorry if I was a little crass, in the first post, my apologies.


23 posted on 12/08/2011 6:44:34 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Grunthor; Mygirlsmom

Mygirlsmom clarified that for me, too. I’m an independent, because for the entirety of my adult life the Republican party was too leftist for me, too. My dad (Nearly 70) was Republican (I think, he at least always voted Republican, except the possibility of Ross Perot, for whom he may have voted, I’m not sure) when I was growing up, and has now switched to independent, I believe. Having lived through many administrations, he essentially says that his party left him. (Mom’s always been an independent that I know of, she came from Democrat roots, and never lept from one plantation to the other, lol).


24 posted on 12/08/2011 6:50:39 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235

Not at all....in reviewing my original post, it is rather harsh. Chalk it up to my tagline......I am quite disgusted and frustrated with the whole ball of wax lately.


25 posted on 12/08/2011 6:51:19 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

No such thing as “independent voter”, because, when they vote, they have to choose between republican or democrat or some other insignificant party. Once they make a choice, they’re not independent. The label doesn’t mean anything unless you can vote for the “independent” permanently. People can be neutral, but while making a choice, they’re not neutral or independent.


26 posted on 12/08/2011 7:00:19 PM PST by adorno (<)
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To: JDW11235

Maybe your previous post was a little crass, but this one has class!


27 posted on 12/08/2011 7:03:19 PM PST by alley cat
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To: Mygirlsmom

Those in the middle, the ones that straddle the fence, endanger both their posterior and their posterity. Those that induce the most anger in me are those Democrats who are dictionary progressives or liberals and with out a single thought support the communists that refer to themselves as progressives or liberals and who control their party. The Republican party is as bad, rinos rinos everywhere, communists calling themselves Republicans, trying to hide their agenda.

If we want to survive, as a nation, as a republic, we must flush the progressives from both parties, from all government offices, from the media, from positions of instruction, both public schools and universities. The progressive political philosophy must be rendered ineffectual, laughable, an object of ridicule. The progressive must be excoriated and driven out of any position of authority. Any adherent of such an absurd idea should never be paid more than minimum wage.


28 posted on 12/08/2011 7:07:58 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: W. W. SMITH
Agreed. But they are more pervasive and firmly entrenched than most realize, and they will fight tooth and nail against any and all attempts to move them an inch much less remove them.

I've been living it this whole last year during the "occupation" of Wisconsin. Seemingly normal, rational people that I have known for years are turning into raving, spittle spewing lunatics over minimal wage and benefit concessions that are a drop in the bucket compared to what we are experiencing in the private sector

29 posted on 12/08/2011 7:21:15 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: Southnsoul

” - - - the number of voters registering under a major party is falling fast, - - - “

Amy, Amy, Amy - - - -sigh. Your puff-piece on THE watershed election of The Republic was sorry, at best. Your article was as useful as observing: “ It is raining outside my office window.”

What are you doing with your “all-I-gotta-do-is- journal-to-make-the-world-what-my-Professors-want it-to-be” degree? THINK! Your Professors were stuck on STUPID!

I printed one of your better quotes. It was near the front of your article, and I read on to see what analysis would be brought to bear on the observation. The result was more descriptions and election ideas that came from political hacks.

Look up this word: D-I-S-G-U-S-T.

Now walk a mile in any lifelong Democrat’s Shoes. Harken back to the days of y’or when DEMOCRAT Bobby Kennedy warned America to “not always look to Washington for solutions to problems.” A month later he was shot dead.

Remember Adlai Stevenson who never used a cliche’. Remember the bills from Congress that THE CONGRESSMEN wrote by themselves.

Fast forward to today and notice that NOTHING good comes out of Congress, bills are robo-voted without reading, bills are thousands of pages long, regulators write the bills not the Congressmen and women, and all bills come from UN-ELECTED, faceless, hirelings in bowels of the White House at 1600 Entitlement Plantation Avenue.

Talk to some “people on the street.” Avoid the political hacks because they are ONLY concerned with “winning” an election.

We don’t give a damn who “wins” IF our National Debt continues to increase, Congressmen and women lack spines to stop madmen such as Obama from continuing to destroy America, the Attorney General lies to Congress about his plan to kill off our border patrol officers,- - - -etc.

” Put on your marchin’ shoes” as arrogant Dictator (in his own mind) Obama commands, and wear out some shoe leather.

Ask the older ex-Democrats about the Conservative Southern Democrats battles with the NE Democrats, and the Western Democrats. Ask them about the days when Congress proposed bills to the President to be signed into law.

Then ask them what THEY think has changed - - - - if you have the guts to hear the word disgust.


30 posted on 12/08/2011 7:25:05 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: Danae

Pink = GOP gains, red = GOP holds, light blue = RAT gains, blue = Rat holds.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2812095/posts

The Path to 270 - Demographics Versus Economics in the 2012 Presidential Election

31 posted on 12/08/2011 7:29:11 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

The pinks and blue map is 2010 results.


32 posted on 12/08/2011 7:32:57 PM PST by txhurl
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Southnsoul.
33 posted on 12/08/2011 7:40:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Southnsoul
Voters are now We the People. There's one behind every blade of grass. . .
34 posted on 12/08/2011 8:27:55 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Danae

Funny that you should make the comment about “the Establishment vs. the People”.

In 1983, Richard Viguerie wrote the book “The Establishment vs. the People: Is a New Populist Revolt on the Way?”.

This book as well his his 1981 book “The New Right: We’re Ready to Lead” were extremely influential in helping me solidify my political beliefs.

If you’ve read either book, then you know exactly what I’m talking about.


35 posted on 12/08/2011 8:36:24 PM PST by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: MplsSteve

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.


36 posted on 12/08/2011 9:04:44 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: Tribune7

Obama and Holder are hoping their Black Panther poll watchers (er intimidators) will fan out from Philadelphia across the state to keep the voters on the Democrat plantation.


37 posted on 12/08/2011 9:38:46 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: Viking2002

Thank you for an accurate description of an Independent. They are cowards and useless to the process. They are like parasites.


38 posted on 12/09/2011 4:13:43 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The reality is we are living on a sinful planet and it is impossible to find perfection here. Get in here and work to make it better but do not have unrealistic expectations.


39 posted on 12/09/2011 4:15:43 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Grunthor
The Republican Party is too far left for me to want to belong to it

So are you going to wait until you find the perfect party and then participate? It's more fun to sit on the sidelines and howl at the moon, isn't it, than to get in the mix and dirty your hands along with all those other imperfect persons.

Thanks for your help.

40 posted on 12/09/2011 4:18:46 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Grunthor

That’s a bit drastic, don’t you think?


41 posted on 12/09/2011 4:19:53 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: JDW11235
Well, when you find the perfect party that can win an election, let me know, I'll join you, until then, I'll continue to work in the Republican party and hopefully make it better.

I despise Democrats so much, it makes it easy to be a Republican.

42 posted on 12/09/2011 4:22:38 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

It’s called sarcasm. Didn’t think I needed to add the tag.


43 posted on 12/09/2011 6:12:54 AM PST by Grunthor
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Maybe in your case, I wasn’t using sarcasm. at all.


44 posted on 12/09/2011 6:14:35 AM PST by Grunthor
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To: Grunthor

Yea, I knew that.


45 posted on 12/09/2011 6:15:23 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“So are you going to wait until you find the perfect party and then participate?”

I never said I was looking for a party now did I? I’d just as soon the quasi-sacialist bass turds that run the G.O.P. not believe they can count on my vote no matter what. Because they can’t.

“It’s more fun to sit on the sidelines and howl at the moon, isn’t it, than to get in the mix and dirty your hands along with all those other imperfect persons.

Thanks for your help.”

Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain. Does it not get tiresome how much feces they throw at you and still demand your support?


46 posted on 12/09/2011 6:17:12 AM PST by Grunthor
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To: Grunthor

Hey, I don’t like it any more than you BUT what is your plan to fix it? Retreat?


47 posted on 12/09/2011 6:21:46 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“Hey, I don’t like it any more than you BUT what is your plan to fix it? Retreat?”

Oh Lord no. I simply will not stand and be counted as one of the useful idiots for either party that can be counted on for my vote simply because of the letter following whatever scumbags’ name they put up for election.

There are people running for the nomination this time that I simply will not vote for under any circumstance.

I will not volunteer for under any circumstance.

I will not donate to under any circumstance.

And no, it’s not just Romney.

As far as how you fix it? TEA Party but it has to be about more than just taxes.


48 posted on 12/09/2011 6:33:34 AM PST by Grunthor
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To: Grunthor
So you are going to retreat. I will NEVER retreat when it comes to defeating Democrats. Obama is so incredibly dangerous, any one of our people is far superior.

Each day there is a new truly frightening charge about what Obama wants to do to transform our country into his desire to promote either Marxism, Islam or a combination of both.

I will be supporting the Republican nominee, no matter who it is. Our worst is still far better than Obama. This man scares me to death.

49 posted on 12/09/2011 6:43:59 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“I will be supporting the Republican nominee, no matter who it is.”

So you have no principles whatsoever? They could put up the most liberal socialistic candidate in the nation, but as long as he or she had an “R” after the name, they got your vote.

I don’t know your personal views but you strike me as a Republican, not a conservative.


50 posted on 12/09/2011 6:47:45 AM PST by Grunthor
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