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KUHNER: Obama’s Watergate [Officials cover up culpability for gun smuggling and murder]
The Washington Times ^ | December 15, 2011 | Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:25 AM PST by yoe

A year ago this week, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered. He died protecting his country from brutal Mexican gangsters. Two AK-47 assault rifles were found at his death site. We now know the horrifying truth: Agent Terry was killed by weapons that were part of an illegal Obama administration operation to smuggle arms to the dangerous drug cartels. He was a victim of his own government. This is not only a major scandal; it is a high crime that potentially reaches all the way to the White House, implicating senior officials. It is President Obama’s Watergate.

Operation Fast and Furious was run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and overseen by the Justice Department. It started under the leadership of Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr...

[snip] Mr. Holder insists he was unaware of what took place until after media reports of the scandal appeared in early 2011. (lier,lier pants on fire...)

Mr. Holder and his aides have given misleading, false and contradictory testimony on Capitol Hill. Perjury, obstruction of justice and abuse of power - these are high crimes and misdemeanors. Mr. Holder should be impeached.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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Holder and Obama are lying....how stupid do they think those watching this unfold, how stupid do they think we are! Impeaching Holder will most likely never happen as he is Black and a close friend of Obama's, both are ardently racist...keep this video for closer to the election but please pass around now.
1 posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:35 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

A picture of the future if we allow government to be in charge of firearms.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 7:34:39 AM PST by Rippin
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To: yoe

Why is no one demanding a special prosecutor?


3 posted on 12/16/2011 7:37:14 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: yoe
This is not only a major scandal; it is a high crime that potentially reaches all the way to the White House, implicating senior officials. It is President Obama’s Watergate.

The buck not only stops there..in this case you can bet that it started there too.

4 posted on 12/16/2011 7:39:14 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: yoe
The media are still calling F&F a "botched" operation, as if there was ever any intent of tracking the weapons.

There wasn't. There is therefore no resemblance between F$F and the Bush Administration program, Operation Gunrunner. This was purely a criminal enterprise designed to empower Mexican cartels and justify and international arms control treaty. IOW, arm criminals while disarming Americans.

See tag line.

5 posted on 12/16/2011 7:40:11 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: yoe

bump


6 posted on 12/16/2011 7:42:45 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: yoe

Also posted here yesterday, different title same article:

KUHNER: Obama’s Watergate (Fast & Furious/Operation Castaway)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2821026/posts


7 posted on 12/16/2011 7:43:32 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: yoe
The importance of this article is that this is the 1st time that a major newspaper has used the Watergate analogy to describe this mess. And Kuhner's argument is spot on. His conclusion that Obama is behind this is obvious from the fact that so many agencies were involved. He must have signed off on it.
8 posted on 12/16/2011 7:46:03 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: yoe
One way or another, Obama will go out in disgrace.

Caligula comes to mind.

9 posted on 12/16/2011 7:53:08 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: for-q-clinton
Probably wouldn't do any good. While there may be a "Sam Ervin" in the Republican Party, there are no Howard Bakers or Lowell Weickers in the Democrat Party and certainly no John Deans in Obama's inner circle.

In addition, instead of helping to drive the investigation and the story, the MSM would do their best to suppress it and then turn around and attack Republicans for chasing down rabbit trails in an attempt to persecute Obama--because he's black.
10 posted on 12/16/2011 7:55:54 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Texas Fossil
this is the 1st time that a major newspaper has used the Watergate analogy to describe this mess.

I was thinking the same thing - 1st time in a major newspaper ..... but I disagree on one point: this is not 'Watergate' .... it is Watergate x 100.

11 posted on 12/16/2011 8:09:05 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You can't fix stupid but you can vote it out.)
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To: yoe

Nothing will happen to the communists BLACK Holder and his leader our communists BLACK Muslim King. America has been brainwashed and is too weak to take these asses to charges of treason.


12 posted on 12/16/2011 8:19:05 AM PST by Logical me
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To: MissMagnolia
it is Watergate x 100

Agreed.

13 posted on 12/16/2011 8:20:52 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: for-q-clinton
Why is no one demanding a special prosecutor?

You'd think that with all of the Republican Presidential candidates and Republicans in Congress, you'd think we'd be hearing a lot more about this...
14 posted on 12/16/2011 8:21:33 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: yoe

it is a high crime that potentially reaches all the way to the White House, implicating senior officials.

Bears repeating over and over and over again!

15 posted on 12/16/2011 8:24:31 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: yoe
There will be no prosecutions. A few will be allowed to "retire" with full benefits. They are all scum and they exist to line their pockets and cover each other's butts.

They ALL MUST GO! Every. Stikin'. One. Of. Them.

16 posted on 12/16/2011 8:45:52 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: yoe

“Operation Fast and Furious was run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and overseen by the Justice Department. It started under the leadership of Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.”

The left says Bush started this program. Is that not true?


17 posted on 12/16/2011 8:57:26 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: edcoil

It is not true, Holder had to agree there are huge differences between what they did.


18 posted on 12/16/2011 9:10:15 AM PST by ConfidentConservative (I think, therefore I am conservative.)
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To: edcoil

Well, it’s good if it’s true “Bush started it” because Obama perverted it and is now stonewalling it for Bush... (sarc off)

Like the posters said it above, this government and Zero type governmentoids are disorganzied the heck out and they love it. So every flaws they picked from Bush they inflamed them and now they blame Bush... ah ah ah... very funny, good one.

Government and the “Obama victims” of so called “Bush’ obviously have their heads up their arses, victims or not.

They all are evil children who want their “child support” money.


19 posted on 12/16/2011 9:10:36 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks yoe. The trial of Holder will be more of a distraction during the summer of 2012.


20 posted on 12/16/2011 9:35:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: JudgemAll; edcoil

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43098

The difference between the two...


21 posted on 12/16/2011 10:21:51 AM PST by ConfidentConservative (I think, therefore I am conservative.)
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To: 6ppc
it is a high crime that potentially reaches all the way to the White House, implicating senior officials. Bears repeating over and over and over again!

IF the media wanted to rid of us of Zero, they could easily bring IMPEACHMENT about. It would happen - but no they hide the crimes of our messiah.
22 posted on 12/16/2011 10:36:21 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: yoe; MestaMachine; Nachum; 444Flyer; Munz

The bloggers responsible for breaking this story with CBS following;Or else Obama/Holder et al would have gotten away with murder for gun regulations.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2821149/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2821238/posts


23 posted on 12/16/2011 11:01:25 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: edcoil
Everything I've read on that point has claimed the Bush administration tracked the guns and seized them before they crossed the border.

This is clearly a different program with different aims.

24 posted on 12/16/2011 11:18:46 AM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: for-q-clinton
Why is no one demanding a special prosecutor?

Uhh, because that law is expired.

25 posted on 12/16/2011 11:28:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: edcoil
For one thing, "Fast & Furious" is the moniker Holder gave it. It was called something else under Bush.

For another thing, the program was much smaller under Bush. In addition, each gun was carefully tracked...to the point where Mexican officials were in on the program.

When ONE gun went unaccounted for it was shut down. FAR, FAR different from Holder's program.

26 posted on 12/16/2011 11:53:12 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: yoe

So since they were caught, they’ll use this as a new crisis, and most racist idiots are not, nor do they want to be ‘aware’ of what the WH vermin are doing.

It’s all about winning another election to keep us in line.

WE ARE AMERICA!
0 and company will most likely finance a third party
to take away votes from Republicans.
A third party= keeping 0Mao. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?

Get together America—or we’re done.


27 posted on 12/16/2011 12:02:36 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE 'ECONOMIC FREEDOM'! NO more 0bamao!)
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To: yoe

Gun running. Murder. International laws broken. Corruption of the federal law enforcement agency running the guns. Circumvention of U. S. arms laws. Top level cover-up involving the head of the F.B.I., the Justice Department, possibly the POTUS?

On what basis does this remind folks of a simple break-in?

Watergate?

I’m sure Woodward and Bernstein will be right on it, “for the good of the nation.” Too bad Katheryn Graham isn’t here to look the other way, to further out her for the media gutter slut skank she was.


28 posted on 12/16/2011 12:22:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: yoe

Monica merited a Special Prosecutor but THIS does not?

3,000 guns smuggled, 200 Mexicans (but probably more like 3,000) dead, 2 US officers murdered, secret airfields, smuggled grenades, secret US/Sinaloa deals, a casino burned, disappearing guns, helicopter shot-down:

NO SPECIAL PROSECUTOR....?

OK, fine, what greater crime would be required to merit one? What is the opposition party FOR?

The notion we don’t yet have one is —> CARTOONISH. <—


29 posted on 12/16/2011 1:08:36 PM PST by gaijin
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To: af_vet_rr
You'd think that with all of the Republican Presidential candidates and Republicans in Congress, you'd think we'd be hearing a lot more about this...

Governor Perry is the only candidate to take it on so far.

30 posted on 12/16/2011 1:15:20 PM PST by jersey117 (.)
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To: gaijin

Holder has his IG investigating it all is well < deep sarcasm> We all know what happened with WalpinGate.So Holder ordering a IG to investigate it is like Holder investigating himself.AND the AGENT TERRY death part of the case;is sealed by an unnamed judge.So all is well don’t worry < more deep sarcasm >


31 posted on 12/16/2011 1:18:07 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: af_vet_rr; for-q-clinton; gaijin

Holder is the one who has to appoint a special prosecutor. In the last hearing either Issa or Sensenbrenner (can’t remember which) said something like “since you won’t appoint a special prosecutor...” I don’t recall the rest of the sentence but I remember hearing that.


32 posted on 12/16/2011 1:36:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jersey117
Rick Santorum made a very strong statement on F&F last night.

Fast and Furious debuts in debate, Santorum joins calls for Holder’s resignation

“I agree with Gov. Perry [in that Holder needs to leave office],” Santorum said in response to a question about Operation Fast and Furious from Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly. “If he was the attorney general under me, I’d fire him, not have him resign. Fire him.”


33 posted on 12/16/2011 1:47:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jersey117
Governor Perry is the only candidate to take it on so far.

Santorum has brought it up as well.

Where I want it to take off though is in Congress. Didn't we elect a bunch of people who claimed to support Tea Party ideals? Where are these people, why are they passing legislation about light bulbs when they should be spending their time on this.
34 posted on 12/16/2011 3:05:04 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: yoe
You say our Attorney General OK'd an illegal transfer of guns to Mexican Drug Gangs and that those guns were used to kill a Border Patrolman, who was armed with beanbag rounds?

Oh, OK. What's Lindsay Lohan up to? What time does "Survivor" come on, "Dance with the Stars?" Who's my congressman, again?

And do call me when this cool story reaches the evening news.

35 posted on 12/16/2011 3:08:55 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?)
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To: TigersEye

That settles it. Santorum is a racist. You cannot fire a black man. That’s the law.


36 posted on 12/16/2011 3:10:54 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?)
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To: yoe

Heads need to roll for this, and I am not speaking in the metaphorical sense.


37 posted on 12/16/2011 3:11:35 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: OldNavyVet
One way or another, Obama will go out in disgrace.

Caligula comes to mind.

Does that mean we'll wind up with his drunken illegal alien uncle running things?

38 posted on 12/16/2011 5:26:12 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: for-q-clinton

I get frustrated by it. Lots of hearings , but no legal action. Time for special prosecutors, grand juries, subpoenas, indictments. Get on with it!


39 posted on 12/17/2011 8:00:42 AM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: newzjunkey
Everything I've read on that point has claimed the Bush administration tracked the guns and seized them before they crossed the border.

They passed the information along to the Mexican cops, who were supposed to seize the guns AFTER they crossed the border, but somehow *cough*onthetake*cough* the Mexican cops could never quite reach the gun runners in time.

So the program was shut down.

40 posted on 12/17/2011 4:42:10 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: newzjunkey
Everything I've read on that point has claimed the Bush administration tracked the guns and seized them before they crossed the border.

They passed the information along to the Mexican cops, who were supposed to seize the guns AFTER they crossed the border, but somehow *cough*onthetake*cough* the Mexican cops could never quite reach the gun runners in time.

So the program was shut down.

41 posted on 12/17/2011 4:42:20 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: yoe

I wish they wouldn’t call this Obama’s Watergate for the simple reason that it is FAR WORSE THAN WATERGATE! This makes Watergate look like a disagreement among children.


42 posted on 12/18/2011 5:46:18 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: Don Corleone

“It is President Obama’s Watergate.”
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We will see whether the result is anything like his resignation but what has happened is vastly worse than Watergate. Something actually comparable to Watergate wouldn’t even make the headlines now. Things much worse than Watergate in reality are happening every day now.


43 posted on 12/18/2011 5:49:43 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: MissMagnolia

“but I disagree on one point: this is not ‘Watergate’ .... it is Watergate x 100.”
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You hit that nail dead center on the head Maggie! Comparing this to Watergate is like calling Hurricane Rita a nice evening breeze.


44 posted on 12/18/2011 5:54:31 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: yoe

Watergate was a blip on the radar compared to this outrage. It was a third rate bungled burglary and political dirty trick they all try to pull.


45 posted on 12/18/2011 8:05:50 AM PST by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: yoe

Watergate was a flowerbed compared to this dung heap of murdering thugs.


46 posted on 12/18/2011 8:28:09 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, "...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: yoe

bttt


47 posted on 12/20/2011 9:00:56 PM PST by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama is weak, was born weak and as P.O.T.U.S. is a complete embarrassment to the U.S.A.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
"WE ARE AMERICA! 0 and company will most likely finance a third party to take away votes from Republicans. A third party= keeping 0Mao. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? Get together America—or we’re done."

The republicans already sold you out along with the Constitution they swore to protect and defend.

See Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5.

48 posted on 12/20/2011 9:04:05 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Godebert

The most important thing is getting 0bamao and cult OUT of power.

Third party at this time will not work.

Time enough to take care of RINOS/infiltrators later.


49 posted on 12/21/2011 6:51:46 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE 'ECONOMIC FREEDOM'! NO more 0bamao!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I hear that crap from you enablers every election. You deserve obama and worse.


50 posted on 12/21/2011 9:38:05 AM PST by Godebert
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