Skip to comments.
Alt Power Gestalt
http://www.americanthinker.com/
| Henry Percy
Posted on 12/24/2011 8:12:06 AM PST by wgflyer
...I want to believe in alt power, because sun and wind are free -- just as petroleum is free. It's only the extraction and distribution that cost...
TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: alternativepower; highcost; windpower
This article and its links provide a wealth of contradiction to any liberal's argument. Great party stuff for those of you suffering in lib land.
1
posted on
12/24/2011 8:12:08 AM PST
by
wgflyer
To: wgflyer
I want to believe in Santa and free lunches.
2
posted on
12/24/2011 8:15:23 AM PST
by
WOBBLY BOB
(Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
To: wgflyer; Kevmo; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel
3
posted on
12/24/2011 8:16:29 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
4
posted on
12/24/2011 8:18:55 AM PST
by
Baynative
(The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
To: WOBBLY BOB
Anything free they’ll tax out of reach. Anything expensive they’ll subsidize.
5
posted on
12/24/2011 8:20:48 AM PST
by
DManA
To: Baynative
Thank you very much for that. I mistakenly put the link in the wrong place. Apologies to all.
6
posted on
12/24/2011 8:25:52 AM PST
by
wgflyer
(Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
To: wgflyer
Great article - thank you for posting this. As "Henry Percy" says, "It's only the extraction and distribution that cost."
Merry Christmas!
7
posted on
12/24/2011 8:27:06 AM PST
by
Ken522
To: wgflyer
Liberals believe in fairy dust and unicorn farts.
Well, belief is fine, but there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch!
8
posted on
12/24/2011 8:36:20 AM PST
by
DakotaGator
(Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
To: wgflyer
Thank you for finding the original article. Here's a great excerpt ...
"When utilities install solar and wind generators, they must also build natural gas turbines and keep them idling for rapid reaction to sags on the grid. Gas turbines must be used because they can be brought online quickly (it takes three days to spool up a nuke, a day or more to bring up a coal facility, slightly less for a combined cycle natural gas plant). However, gas turbines are only about 30% efficient, about half the efficiency of a combined cycle generator (a natural gas plant that uses both turbine and steam power). That's why gas turbines are not used for base-load generation. The end result is that when utilities install alt-generation capacity, they must put in new gas turbine generation as well, and the carbon output of the latter at least offsets that saved from the alt sources. What kind of a bargain is that?"
9
posted on
12/24/2011 8:43:13 AM PST
by
Baynative
(The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
To: DakotaGator
10
posted on
12/24/2011 9:51:56 AM PST
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: wgflyer
The green propeller heads just can’t seem to process the fact that we have no way of storing the AC power. You always need backup conventional power plants ready to go when you have windmills or solar on the grid. Chu is beyond stupid.
11
posted on
12/24/2011 9:57:19 AM PST
by
Oldhunk
To: Oldhunk
It makes you wonder how many times they have to explain to Chu and Obama for that matter that you can’t use giant fans to keep wind turbines turning. Obama is such a failure at Constitutional law, there is no way he’d understand the Law of Conservation of Energy.
12
posted on
12/24/2011 10:02:58 AM PST
by
King Moonracer
(Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
To: wgflyer
..spin huge flywheels that can then generate power when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow... Excellent idea, said Steven ChuA Nobel laureat in physics cannot be expected to know about electro-mechanical inefficiencies.
They only have to know politics, and be on the "right side", meaning the LEFT side.
13
posted on
12/24/2011 10:54:23 AM PST
by
Designer
(Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
To: blueunicorn6
hahaha!!
14
posted on
12/24/2011 11:16:49 AM PST
by
DakotaGator
(Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
To: SunkenCiv; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
15
posted on
12/26/2011 4:39:09 AM PST
by
steelyourfaith
(If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson