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Ron Paul : I Am the Most Pro-Israel Candidate
Arutz Sheva ^ | 29/12/11

Posted on 12/28/2011 10:52:25 PM PST by Eleutheria5

Edited on 12/28/2011 11:18:38 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Republican Presidential Candidate Ron Paul said Wednesday night that he is not anti-Semitic, and that he is pro-Israel, despite remarks made earlier this week by his former aide by which Paul would have preferred it if Israel did not exist.


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TOPICS: Israel; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabstates; chutzpah; foreignaid; gmafb; proisrael; ronpaul
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Nice try. Of course, if America stops sending arms to the Arabs, the PRC will just sit on its hands and stay out of it, just like the USSR did back in the 1950s./s
1 posted on 12/28/2011 10:52:30 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Paul is retarded if he thinks ANYONE conservative will believe him.


2 posted on 12/28/2011 10:54:56 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Marco 2012 not Willard & Barack aka the Abortion Kings!!)
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To: Eleutheria5

Somehow I’ve jumped to an alternate reality...

Up is down, black is white...

How do I get back?


3 posted on 12/28/2011 10:56:52 PM PST by DB
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To: Eleutheria5

Ron Paul is demonstrating he is now gone from being just a wack job to clearly insane, to think he is pro-Israel.


4 posted on 12/28/2011 10:57:14 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you)
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To: Eleutheria5
Yeah, right!

Now where have I heard that same whopper of late?

Oh yeah, our Fascist, Neo-Commie, Islamic Supremacist-appeasing, Community Agitator in Chief.

5 posted on 12/28/2011 10:59:40 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Eleutheria5

I’ll take him at his word, when he says he’s prp-Israel.

He’s just not saying pre-Israel’s, what.


6 posted on 12/28/2011 11:01:01 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Eleutheria5
You probably don't want to be standing anywhere near Ron Paul after that whopper.


8 posted on 12/28/2011 11:01:55 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Eleutheria5

“Tough love” eh, Ron?


9 posted on 12/28/2011 11:03:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Eleutheria5

The man is certifiable!

Something is seriously wrong with this poor fellow :-(


10 posted on 12/28/2011 11:15:13 PM PST by Bobalu (We cannot afford to bring Mittens to a Newt-fight.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Also, Gingrich is the slimmest and Bachmann the tallest.


11 posted on 12/28/2011 11:15:24 PM PST by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Eleutheria5

Paul: I am not an anti-Semite.
Obambi: I am not a Muslim.
Nixon: I am not a crook.


12 posted on 12/28/2011 11:15:44 PM PST by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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To: Eleutheria5

And Mitt Romney is Ronald Reagan.


13 posted on 12/28/2011 11:16:34 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: mrreaganaut

Words cannot express ping.


14 posted on 12/28/2011 11:16:39 PM PST by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: Eleutheria5

IsraelNationalNews.com must be excerpted. Please do not post full text articles from them again. Thanks.


15 posted on 12/28/2011 11:20:16 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: DB; Absolutely Nobama; BlackElk; Allegra; 50mm; Salamander; MestaMachine
"Somehow I’ve jumped to an alternate reality... Up is down, black is white... How do I get back?"

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

(Just stand there. You'll get where you're going.)

16 posted on 12/28/2011 11:24:35 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Ron Paul is at it again with his spokesman, not Paul, saying something that appears so out of touch with previous Paul positions. I am becoming more convinced that Paul is just a public shill for Muslim interests. Otherwise all those supporters must be living on dog food to finance their support and appearances. I was born in Iowa many years ago but never got into politics as a youth before leaving the state. Nevertheless, it is difficult for me to understand how and why the people in Iowa would ever think of pegging Paul for POTUSA considering his disdain for the military and other expressions. Paul does support my ideas on somethings like the Fed Reserve but I consider him a patriotic enigma.


17 posted on 12/28/2011 11:25:02 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Eleutheria5

Whats worse is it’s this idiot or Mittens (another idiot) running neck and neck in this race for the win. (so far)

We are f%$ked.

I gotta work on my SHTF plan. I’m thinking I’ll be using it.


18 posted on 12/28/2011 11:31:59 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: Eleutheria5
Hahahahahaha.

How is it that some part of Iowa is seriously considering this clown?

19 posted on 12/28/2011 11:32:17 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Eleutheria5

Now he’s pandering to the Zionist Bilderbergensteins. The man is shameless.


20 posted on 12/28/2011 11:32:46 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Eleutheria5

You cut aid to Israel and you also cut the U.S. leash on the Israeli Military. Thus they get to finish off their enemies.

Otherwise we will continue to spend billion and spill more American Blood.....for what? Another built up Islamic Country that considers U.S. infidels and mandates in their Constitutions..”NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM”

Cut the aid to and the leash on Israel, and let Israel cut the throat of Islam. Win Win.


21 posted on 12/28/2011 11:37:49 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: rfp1234

Clinton: I didn’t have sex with that woman.


22 posted on 12/28/2011 11:39:40 PM PST by DB
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To: Eleutheria5
Paul’s spokesman sent an announcement to Reuters saying, “Paul is the most pro-Israel candidate in this race..."

Looks like Pauls people are getting very nervous now that the anti Semitic views of of his are coming out. This is the biggest load of BS. Liar Liar Pants on Fire.


23 posted on 12/28/2011 11:42:52 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: noinfringers2

I’ve thought it also - that Ron Paul and his ilk are being funded by the Muslims.


24 posted on 12/28/2011 11:55:50 PM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Eleutheria5

So let me get this straight, this guy wants to give Israel to the Arabs and he thinks he is the most Pro Israel? WOW I dont know what kind of narcotics this dude is on but he needs to cut down


25 posted on 12/29/2011 12:17:36 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: TomasUSMC

The Islamofascists will still get plenty of aid. If the US doesn’t give it, the PRC or Russia will. That’s what happened to the Tripartite Pact block on military aid to any Middle Eastern country, in effect from 1948 through about 1953, when the USSR started sending huge military aid to Egypt via Czechoslovakia. So, Israel will have a cut leash, but also legs cut out from under, because we will have no way to counter a huge increase in aid to Islamofascistia from the PRC, the former of which will then move in for the kill. Lose/Lose.


26 posted on 12/29/2011 12:30:50 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Israel has over 100 nukes. Its legs can annihilate all of Islum in one day.


27 posted on 12/29/2011 12:48:47 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Eleutheria5

oh Ron Paul you F***** liar


28 posted on 12/29/2011 12:50:06 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: TomasUSMC

Don’t be stupid.


29 posted on 12/29/2011 12:56:35 AM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Marco 2012 not Willard & Barack aka the Abortion Kings!!)
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To: Eleutheria5
The Islamofascists will still get plenty of aid. If the US doesn’t give it, the PRC or Russia will.

You are defending the continued spending of untold billions on Muslim nations, despite their increasing slaughter Middle Eastern Christians? If you are really against Islamofascists, why would you want to continue sending them our tax dollars?

30 posted on 12/29/2011 12:58:41 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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"How is it that some part of Iowa is seriously considering this clown?"

That would be the drug addicts, recreational pot smokers, retards, military haters, bigots, racists, and liberal college students part of Iowa. Period.

31 posted on 12/29/2011 1:02:19 AM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Marco 2012 not Willard & Barack aka the Abortion Kings!!)
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To: CainConservative

I believe that would assume that to include those that adhere to the literal meaning of the Constituion.

That notwithstanding, it would include those having a different philosophy than what may be best for the Republic in the grand scheme of things.

I’m uncertrain whether or not Paul being construed as a Constitutional “strict consstructionist” if Paul’s political philosophies may actually be in the best interest of the Republic.

Perhaps compromise is the best order of business, eh? Yep, compromise between the Paultards and the Republic realists. When push comes to shove everybody knows that Paultards are “pie in the sky Utopians” and every other conservative is firmly grounded in reality.

Sort of akin to Coultard, right?


32 posted on 12/29/2011 1:15:43 AM PST by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: GreatRoad

Yep, that and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu is an idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVORRHn7rg8

Sort of makes one wonder why we should support Paultards such as those leading Israel.


33 posted on 12/29/2011 1:34:07 AM PST by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

I would oppose giving them your tax dollars, but if you also stop military supplies to Israel, you are basically signing our death warrant, because while nobody else will supply us, except possibly India (emphasis on possibly), plenty of large countries will be lining up to supply the Islamofascists, especially the PRC and Russia, as of old. They want influence in the region. They want to disrupt US interests. The Islamofascists will then note that while they are in clover, we are out in the cold, and promptly start yet another war to annihilate us. We have a good record with regards to such wars, and did not get any major help from the US until 1973 (In 1967, France was in our corner, while the US was helping Jordan), but the first time we lose one will also be the last.


34 posted on 12/29/2011 1:54:31 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Annihilating Islam would also make Israel uninhabitable for a number of years. Also, the doomsday option is a very poor one. See Larry Heineman, Starship Trooper, for the details, as well as Childhood’s End by AC Clarke.


35 posted on 12/29/2011 1:57:06 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I think it is time for Rand to fill out the commitment paperwork.


36 posted on 12/29/2011 2:03:05 AM PST by JIM O
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To: raygun

This is clever claptrap. The US has never sent troops to defend Israel. Israel has never asked the US to send troops here. Nobody has ever even seriously advocated sending troops to defending Israel. The one time the US sent troops, in Lebanon, it was to keep Israel from rolling up the PLO. So he’s beating up on a straw man, unless you believe that the two wars fought with Iraq were all about Israel, which is a total lie (unless the Jooos! really are behind all wars).

What he is talking about is ending all military assistance to Israel; i.e, no more weapons or financing of R&D for weapons, or joint R&D. While he’s at it, he also wants to end all aid to the Islamofascist states, and let us free to defend ourselves. Sure. So long as the balance of force here remains stable, that sounds good. Only it definitely won’t.


37 posted on 12/29/2011 2:06:49 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: raygun

Thanks. I have never seen that vid before - or anything like it. MSM did a good job of hiding it from me!


38 posted on 12/29/2011 2:07:41 AM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: rfp1234

Paul is the actual Muslim. Obama is just a leftist.


39 posted on 12/29/2011 2:23:52 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Eleutheria5

Be thankful that your government is not like the America’s, with both parties committed to massive Islamic immigration. I would not recommend dependency upon the US. Our country is likely to fall if the bipartisan establishment remains in power.


40 posted on 12/29/2011 4:19:20 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Eleutheria5

Then we are in serious trouble if Paul is the most pro-Israel candidate.


41 posted on 12/29/2011 4:46:25 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: mas cerveza por favor

I am 100% with you on that. We have got to form local alliances with oppressed Christian communities, oppressed Muslim minorities such as the Kurds and soon-to-be-oppressed Alawites, Baluchis, Marsh Arabs, and above all else non-Muslim countries such as South Sudan and India. We should form our own organization either within or outside the UN: The Alliance of Near and Far Eastern Minorities (ANFEM) and form strong military, commercial and diplomatic ties.


42 posted on 12/29/2011 4:50:17 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Eleutheria5

43 posted on 12/29/2011 5:10:11 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Eleutheria5

I thought that Obama already staked out the claim of being the most Pro-Israel candidate? With friends like these, Israel is in deep doo-doo.


44 posted on 12/29/2011 5:27:03 AM PST by jim_trent
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No, he isn’t pro-Israel, and his positions on foreign aid are irrelevant.

On numerous occasions he’s addressed the “problem” of Jewish neocons and the Likud Party control of the neocon tainted Bush administration. Including on the floor of the House. That’s not pro-Israel, it’s conspiracy lunacy.

He’s stated that the Mossad, like the CIA, may have been behind the 1993 Trade Center Bombing. Not pro-Israel, conspiracy nonsense. Like his contention that GWB was pleased by 9/11, also libelous. It seems to me as a Government official he has an obligation to make the facts known, and turn them over to law enforcement

He does acknowledge Jews lived in the region a couple millennia ago. That’s nice, I guess it’s a plus, though it’s a pretty widely accepted fact

He describes the history of Zionism as a movement of Orthodox Jews (Herzl would be surprised as would have most of the "Orthodox" of the day) who wanted to separate secular European Jews from the culture they had assimilated into so well. Secular European Jews fully integrated and accepted into late 19th century Europe, like Alfred Dreyfus. 19th and 20th century European Jews would be surprised to find they were so well accepted and integrated. Is Paul stupid, or a revisionist, I don’t know.

Somehow his “history” of Israel and Zionism skips from the late 19th century to 1948 and the evil UN. Nothing important happened in the interim I guess, WWI, WWII, Turkey’s defeat, the Mandate period, economic development of Palestine (that’s what the future Jewish state was done), movement of Arabs to the region for economic reasons, no San Remo, no partitioning an Arab state for Jordon, no pogroms, the Mufti, he even forgets the little dust up caused by the Reich. All insignificant, I guess. Not worth assessing whether a defective version of history makes him pro-Israel.

Simply skip forward to 1948 when the UN lets Israel take the Arabs land. By successfully defending themselves from genocide I guess.

Quite telling is the Paul experience meeting a young palestinian attending school in the US. Her story about how her family was thrown off land in her family for centuries touched his heart. Just to build Israeli settlements. He’s a sentimental guy, but this is the Arab version of history.

Did I mention this meeting happened in the early 1950s, clear proof that Ron considers Tel Aviv a settlement. Like San Antonio I guess. But what the heck, it was just a group of people taking land from others on the specious arguement that G-d told them to do it. Classic pro-Arab fairy tale from the Congressman, not a pro-Israel position.

For anyone interested in learning more about the conflict, Paul recommends Jimmy Carter's Apartheid work. It's on the Code Pink suggested reading list too. Largely discredited in pro-Israel circles.

The idea that Paul is pro-Israel is absurd, he has a clear anti-Israel mindset. Whether he’s an antisemite is a different issue not worth getting into. Because it’s an opinion, and irrelevant given his willingness to associate with world class Holocaust deniers, Jewhaters and racists. That alone should be a disqualifier for high office, as it should have been for the current occupant of the White House.

Interestingly like Obama’s racist baggage Paul’s has been known here on FR for years, it’s a shame more people didn’t pay attention, preventing a potential embarrassment for whoever the Republican candidate is, and depriving Obama supporters of an effective issue.


45 posted on 12/29/2011 5:29:10 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims¬óDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: Eleutheria5

In other news, it turns out that Hitler was only providing free showers, when something went horribly wrong...


46 posted on 12/29/2011 5:59:50 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: CainConservative

That would be the drug addicts, recreational pot smokers, retards, military haters, bigots, racists, and liberal college students part of Iowa. Period.

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You may not like Paul’s support..but that latest poll FOX News had this morning where Paul is leading was polled Registered Republicans..I think with a track of voting Pub.

If you were in a position to see some of the supporters..you would really be shaking your head and in a quandry.

Where I live..the youngest Paul supporter is 32 the oldest 90 and no college kids or kids period.


47 posted on 12/29/2011 6:07:26 AM PST by stillafreemind
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To: stillafreemind

Most of the Paul’s supporters voted for Obama in 08. If Paul runs 3rd party, he will pull votes from Obama. ;)


48 posted on 12/29/2011 6:12:12 AM PST by show
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To: show

I’m only reporting on my area..don’t know about other voters in other parts of this state.


49 posted on 12/29/2011 6:14:18 AM PST by stillafreemind
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To: SJackson

Ron Paul is certifiable. He needs a tin hat himself.


50 posted on 12/29/2011 6:25:07 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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