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Team Obama lays out electoral map strategy
LA Times ^ | December 29, 2011 | Peter Nicholas

Posted on 12/29/2011 5:28:52 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Fee; neverdem
Never rely on poll data on Xmas holiday because people tend to be in a good mood.

They're in a good mood because they are enjoying seasonal employment.

21 posted on 12/29/2011 6:32:46 PM PST by thecodont
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To: neverdem

The Plan — CHEAT


22 posted on 12/29/2011 6:35:00 PM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: neverdem

This whole article strikes me as funny somehow. “Here’s how we plan to win.” I did not see anything like this when Clinton was running for reelection. Did you?


23 posted on 12/29/2011 6:39:39 PM PST by thecodont
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To: bmwcyle

The backup plan - martial law and become dictator for life long it lasts, life could be short anyone who tries it.


24 posted on 12/29/2011 6:46:18 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: wally_bert

I remember about this exact same backup plan when Bush was President the libs were screaming martial law. I wish.


25 posted on 12/29/2011 6:53:01 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: neverdem

The real strategy is ensure Mitt Romney wins the nomination so the conservatives and libertarians stay home or put up a third party...


26 posted on 12/29/2011 7:03:06 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: neverdem

“...voters are disillusioned...”

No.

We are filled to the brim with utter hatred for “Bath-House” Barry and his perverts and what they are doing to this country.


27 posted on 12/29/2011 7:06:57 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: neverdem

First of all the states that produces 251 EVs for Kerry in 2004, would only produce 246 EVs in 2012. Since 270 is the magic number, Obama is looking for 24 more EVs

1. Colorado, 9 EV, and Nevada, 6 EV, would still leave him 9 EV short. So I guess this includes Arizona, 11 EV, to get them over the top. This was the 2004 strategy and it failed to work. Winning Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico, 5 EV, would still leave them 4 EV short. So really this is a strategy to win Arizona, Colorado and at least one of Nevada and New Mexico.

2. Florida, 29 EV, would get them there, but I have a lot of doubts about them winning Florida. Florida trended GOP in 2010 and I am not sure what reverses that? I am sure they will try a social security/medicare scare, but the truth is the Dims raided medicare for Obamacare.

3. How tired is the 1970s phrase “new south.” I guess we could call Virginia, 13 EV, the big government south where the federal government suburbs of DC give the Dims a possibility. But Virginia’s conservative Dim senator is retiring because he thinks it is not a year shaping up well for him. His analysis rings true to me. North Carolina, 15 EV, is even a tougher nut for them to crack.

4. Ohio, 18 EV, and Iowa, 6 EV, would also get them to 270. But Ohio trended GOP in 2010 and Iowa was one of I believe two states that switched from Dim to GOP from 2000 to 2004.

Maybe his best shot for 24 EV more would be Virginia, 13 EV, Colorado 9 EV and Nevada, 6 EV for a total of 28. This also would protect against New Hampshire, 4 EV, going back in the GOP column as 2010 indicates.


28 posted on 12/29/2011 7:12:04 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: thecodont
This whole article strikes me as funny somehow. “Here’s how we plan to win.” I did not see anything like this when Clinton was running for reelection. Did you?

No, but Obama's situation is completely different from Clinton's with respect to jobs and the economy, and this hasn't been the first time Messina discussed this strategy, i.e. Kerry's 2004 base plus the other states to get 270 in the electoral college. Maybe it's just to rally their base, and keep the donations coming?

Election 2012: Romney 45%, Obama 39%

In his latest matchup with the president, Romney holds a 20-point lead among male voters but trails by six among female voters. The Republican posts a 45% to 29% lead among voters not affiliated with either of the major political parties.

Not that I'm crazy about Romney, but that almost 3:2 ratio among independents dooms the rats.
29 posted on 12/29/2011 7:20:41 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

If today’s poll (45-39 Mitt over Barry) is reflective of the actual vote, Barry will have trouble getting 175 EVs.


30 posted on 12/29/2011 7:26:04 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: JLS

Throw Mitt into the ring and what happens? I would look for the Mormons to pull in Nevada at least, maybe Arizona. NH and MI would be in play also. The real question is what he would lose.


31 posted on 12/29/2011 8:13:27 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: bergmeid

I wonder if there’s a way to get on one of those teams and then to start sabotaging it.


It’s not necessary for anyone to sabotage the Republicans. they do it to thmselves.


32 posted on 12/29/2011 8:42:20 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: ClayinVA

I forgot to mention that with Wisconsin’s new voter ID law, the Dims probably will not be able to steal it as they did in 2000 and 2004. That makes 10 more EVs they will have to make up.

I do agree that Romney as the candidate would almost surely give the GOP New Hampshire and maybe give them a real shot at Maine. I also agree that Michigan would be in play. The Dims have not won Nevada recently, but Romney might shore it up.


33 posted on 12/29/2011 8:57:53 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: neverdem
This is Obama and Holder's idea of a civil right in voting


34 posted on 12/29/2011 9:09:04 PM PST by Fred (On Newt Gingrich - He is a sociopath, but he is our sociopath)
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To: Fred

LOL!


35 posted on 12/29/2011 10:32:29 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
The mood in camp Obama is picking up these days, with the president’s poll numbers inching northward and Republicans mired in what could turn out to be a prolonged, expensive battle for the GOP nomination.

Nice to see we can post newspapers from alternate universes on FR.

36 posted on 12/30/2011 1:08:59 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Is it really time to go?)
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To: neverdem

Will someone please sit the liberals down somewhere quiet and gently explain to them that their “Road to 270” won’t work because there is no enthusiasm on their side and there is roaring enthusiasm on our side?


37 posted on 12/30/2011 4:47:16 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature; neverdem
Speaking of that tagline . . .


38 posted on 12/30/2011 5:31:46 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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