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Was jealousy a factor in Top Gun killings?
msnbc.com ^ | 1/5/12 | NBC News and news services

Posted on 01/05/2012 5:42:25 PM PST by ColdOne

SAN DIEGO — San Diego County investigators trying to determine a motive behind a New Year's Day murder-suicide involving two Navy pilots and two other people are looking at whether jealousy may have played a role.

Sheriff's Capt. Duncan Fraser said Thursday investigators are looking at all aspects, including whether there was a relationship between one of the pilot's sisters who was also killed and the Navy pilot who committed suicide.

John Robert Reeves, 25, shot himself in the head, and the three others with him were murdered, the San Diego County Sheriff's Department said, citing autopsy results. Fellow Navy pilot David Reis, also 25, was killed by a gunshot wound to the torso, and his 24-year-old sister, Karen, suffered a gunshot wound to the head and chest, officials said. Matthew Saturley, 31, of suburban Chula Vista, was shot multiple times.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: coronado; murder; murders; navair; navy; navypilots; suicide; usn; usnavy
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1 posted on 01/05/2012 5:42:27 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

brittle things snap.


2 posted on 01/05/2012 5:45:55 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Ignorance is no excuse.)
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To: dragnet2; SandyInSeattle

ping


3 posted on 01/05/2012 5:50:45 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

Hearkens back to 1993 when Lt. Alton Grizzard [former starting quarterback at Navy] was murdered when trying to intervene in an argument between another fellow male officer and his [once] female officer girlfriend.

The female was also murdered, then the shooter turned thee gun on himself ...


4 posted on 01/05/2012 5:59:22 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: ColdOne

Such a waste of youth, talent and promising futures.


5 posted on 01/05/2012 6:06:53 PM PST by catbertz (Easter egg...I wants it.)
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To: ColdOne
David Reis' body was found near the entryway...three more bodies were on the third floor of the condo, including two in the bedroom and one on a landing.

Hmmmm...Shooter on the landing? Balcony? stairway...No where to go so bullet to the head?

2 in the bedroom? Someone did not like what was going on in the bedroom?

I'm confident they know what happened and motive, but they just aint sayin.

6 posted on 01/05/2012 6:09:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ColdOne
More over here:

Coronado, California, Shooting Kills 4, Including 2 Navy Pilots, Sister

7 posted on 01/05/2012 6:11:44 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Nothing really new there either.

The just ain't saying who the shooter was or what the motive was at this time.

My bet, is they know exactly who had the motive at this point and who had all the gunshot residue on their hand, and who was the last to die.

8 posted on 01/05/2012 6:18:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Was jealousy a factor in Top Gun(sic) killings?

Neither one of those jg's had anything to do with Top Gun, which relocated to Fallon back in 1996. Journalists are schmucks.

9 posted on 01/05/2012 6:18:19 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: dragnet2

It’s already been established that Reeves was the shooter.


10 posted on 01/05/2012 6:21:49 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: dragnet2
The just ain't saying who the shooter was or what the motive was at this time.

The shooter was Reeves.

11 posted on 01/05/2012 6:23:52 PM PST by Drew68
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To: FReepers

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12 posted on 01/05/2012 6:25:26 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Drew68

Whoop...Yeah they revealed was Reeves, but motive?


13 posted on 01/05/2012 6:26:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

They said the shooter was Reeves. They said Reeves was “confused about a supposed relationship with a roommate’s sister”.

They said the Chula Vista guy was shoot far more than any other victim.

Reis’s brother came in after his sister and the Chula Vista guy were shot. He died in the doorway.

Reeves, the shooter, died of a self inflicted head wound on the landing.

My guess: he killed the Reis sister and Chula Vista guy with jealously over their relationship. Reis’ brother came in the doorway, was killed and died there.


14 posted on 01/05/2012 6:32:07 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: dragnet2

They said the shooter was Reeves. They said Reeves was “confused about a supposed relationship with a roommate’s sister”.

They said the Chula Vista guy was shot far more than any other victim.

Reis’s brother came in after his sister and the Chula Vista guy were shot. He died in the doorway.

Reeves, the shooter, died of a self inflicted head wound on the landing.

My guess: he killed the Reis sister and Chula Vista guy with jealously over their relationship. Reis’ brother came in the doorway, was killed and died there.


15 posted on 01/05/2012 6:32:27 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: dragnet2; BunnySlippers
Whoop...Yeah they revealed was Reeves, but motive?

With no surviving witnesses it's going to take a little more time for the cops to conclude exactly why this happened. They won't release speculation. The most likely scenario is the one that Bunny Slippers posted in the previous thread. A crime of passion fueled by jealousy and alcohol.

16 posted on 01/05/2012 6:39:19 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

A toughy. Tragic. Prayers for all of the families.


17 posted on 01/05/2012 6:41:52 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: ColdOne

Very unusual event. Officers generally don’t shoot each other, and nothing like this ever happens at Coronado.

What’s going on in the world?


18 posted on 01/05/2012 6:43:50 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Drew68
Seems like a lot of anger for the shooter to kill the female, and then two of the male friends.

It’s already been established that Reeves was the shooter.

Upon closer review of this particular article, they didn't say Reeves was the shooter at this point and continue to avoid saying that. They only admit Reeves shot himself. But it clearly appears to be the case, Reeves was the shooter...But ya never know until all the evidence is in.

John Robert Reeves, 25, shot himself in the head, and the three others with him were murdered

Sheriff's Capt. Duncan Fraser declined to say if Reeves was the shooter, explaining that "we don't have forensic evidence yet to say that definitively."

19 posted on 01/05/2012 6:44:05 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I suspect you need to read multiple news articles nationwide to get the better story. It appears to be straight forward story. Sad and tragic however.


20 posted on 01/05/2012 6:50:09 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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