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Another ATF weapons operation comes under scrutiny
L.A. Times ^ | 1/13/12 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 01/12/2012 9:40:58 PM PST by Nachum

Washington - In the late summer of 2010, the ATF agent leading the failed Fast and Furious gun-smuggling operation in Arizona flew to Mexico City to help coordinate cross-border investigations of U.S. weapons used by Mexican drug cartels. Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running. Now members of Congress who have spent months scrutinizing the Fast and Furious debacle are seeking to determine whether White Gun

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama; operation; scrutiny; weapons; whitegun
White Gun-gate
1 posted on 01/12/2012 9:41:08 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 01/12/2012 9:42:50 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Add that to Four Square, Solyndra and a host of other scandals, and its amazing Obama is doing as well as he is in the polls.

That’s probably because the GOP Presidential candidates are doing so well with Mainstream Media supplied ammunition in those circular firing squad spectacles called “debates”.


3 posted on 01/12/2012 9:53:06 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Nachum

That stack on Boehner’s desk sure is getting higher and higher.

He’ll get to all of these illegal actions by the POTUS at some point in time.


4 posted on 01/12/2012 9:53:50 PM PST by tsowellfan (Video: The Real Romney (running to the left of Ted Kennedy) http://ow.ly/8rknZ)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

It just never ends ping.

And for Dear Freepers on this list who know Yorkie and knew Cardhu and Tiapam, prayers are urgently needed here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2832335/posts

Three Freepers in three days. Removed from evil such as this.


5 posted on 01/12/2012 9:58:16 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Nachum

Am I missing something?
Is there more than what might have been missing from the trunk?


6 posted on 01/12/2012 10:08:45 PM PST by moehoward
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To: ZULU

When you have a propaganda department that’s the majority of the MSM you can get away with a lot and the people aren’t safe.


7 posted on 01/13/2012 12:15:34 AM PST by airedale
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To: Nachum
Disband the ATF and arrest its leaders and officers pending investigation.
8 posted on 01/13/2012 12:38:07 AM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: tsowellfan

By the end of Obummer’s second term, do ya suppose???


9 posted on 01/13/2012 1:12:29 AM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: exnavy

You forgot a couple steps and at least two agencies... They should, immediately on conviction in court (and their employment by any of these agencies can be used as a presumption of guilt) be hanged by the neck until dead, their homes and personal property transferred to their victims/families and the offices they used torn down and the land sown with salt as a lasting memorial to their perfidy. The other agencies must needs include: IRS, DEA, EPA, FBI, FANNIE-MAE, FREDDY-MAC and any and all fedgov creations not specified IN THE CONSTITUTION.


10 posted on 01/13/2012 1:21:52 AM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: tsowellfan

If you have ANY confidence in Boehner to do anything then you are foolish,
obammy seems to have whatever balls Boehener ever had in a very tiny lock box.


11 posted on 01/13/2012 2:31:27 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: tsowellfan

If you have ANY confidence in Boehner to do anything then you are foolish,
obammy seems to have whatever balls Boehener ever had in a very tiny lock box.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 2:32:14 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: ZULU

I agree. It’s pathetic that they aren’t going after the sissy-in-chief but keep attacking one another.


13 posted on 01/13/2012 3:56:20 AM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: MestaMachine; Nachum; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; wardaddy; Eaker; Jeff Head
A second case involved cartel members who were seeking shoulder-launched antiaircraft missiles and antitank rockets, according to the ATF records.

The same undercover agent met the pair in February 2010 at a Phoenix warehouse. David Diaz-Sosa and Jorge DeJesus-Casteneda brought 11 pounds of crystal methamphetamine to trade for weapons. The undercover agent showed them shoulder-launched missiles, rocket launchers and grenades before ATF agents moved in and arrested them.

What's curious here is that there's nothing supporting their need for "Demand" letters from stores in the southwest about the reporting of multiple sales of so called "assault weapons" and .50 caliber "sniper" rifles. Wrap it up. That's all folks.

14 posted on 01/13/2012 9:13:19 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: ZULU

Oh, but the 0bama whitehouse is “scandal free”...

“Obama Miracle is White House Free of Scandal: Jonathan Alter”

It’s “scandal free”, you scumbags, because you take a “see-no-evil” approach to 0bama.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 9:17:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I think we should have a contesat for the part of the three monkies.

I nominate Stephanopolis, Anderson Cooper and Chris Matthews.


16 posted on 01/13/2012 9:48:24 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: exnavy

Mac Daddy and Holder know nothing about this or Fast and Furious so some 22nd level pencil pushed will be thrown under the bus and presto justuce has been served.


17 posted on 01/13/2012 10:25:44 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Joe Boucher
If you have ANY confidence in Boehner to do anything then you are foolish

Well I am not disappointed, he is doing exactly what I said he would, Just D@mn. D@mn all of them.

18 posted on 01/13/2012 2:43:59 PM PST by itsahoot (You are no longer a person, you are a Unit when you need health care.)
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To: Nachum

When it rains it pours.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 3:47:47 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: Nachum
the money shot...

Just as Guzman Patino seemed ready to buy, according to the ATF records, the investigation into his activities abruptly ended. The documents do not explain why, and they don't indicate whether he obtained any weapons.

20 posted on 01/13/2012 7:22:09 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nachum

“White Gun”...

Sounds racist to me...


21 posted on 01/14/2012 3:51:48 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: neverdem

Good point...Nothing in the ATF’s public effort in this debacle is proving one need for any additional scrutiny on private businesses or persoanl transfers of firearms, when the cartels are going for big bang bang items from “other than legal” sources...

But hey, if I could score access to AA and AT weaponry...Sure...Not sure why I’d need it, but if its good enough for the military and the cartels...

It’s got to be good enough for us...


22 posted on 01/14/2012 3:56:37 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Chode
"the money shot... Just as Guzman Patino seemed ready to buy, according to the ATF records, the investigation into his activities abruptly ended. The documents do not explain why, and they don't indicate whether he obtained any weapons."

Exactly! Patino was a top Sinaloa Cartel member and we all know by now that there was an agreement to fight the OTHER cartels allegedly because the FBI had a CI in Sinaloa and so Sinaloa was protected. I hope I'm not alone in thinking there is another reason Sinaloa Cartel was protected.

Of course, "our" people scored some good PR by arresting and convicting three underlings while investigations of the big boys "abruptly ended".

None of the three was included on the list of nine cartel leaders who were targeted in the operation. The U.S. attorney in Phoenix at the time, Dennis K. Burke, who later resigned over Fast and Furious, called the White Gun convictions "a tremendous team effort that put a stop to a well-financed criminal conspiracy to acquire massive destructive firepower."

23 posted on 01/14/2012 9:30:08 AM PST by Sal (The Progressive AKA Communist media must be destroyed, discredited, and replaced by humans.)
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To: Sal
you aren't... and this more or less proves it
24 posted on 01/14/2012 10:28:33 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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