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Welfare recipients outnumber taxpayers
Editorial Charleston Daily Mail ^ | 12/23/11 | Editor

Posted on 01/13/2012 3:33:51 PM PST by Baynative

Paul LePage, the Republican governor of Maine, mentioned an uncomfortable truth in a radio address this month: Maine has more welfare recipients than income tax payers.

Democrats challenged the accuracy of this assertion.

The Bangor Daily News fact-checked LePage and discovered that 445,074 Mainers paid state income tax, while 453,194 received some sort of state aid.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: taxpayers; welfare
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To: Baynative

guess we passed the tipping point a few miles ago.


41 posted on 01/13/2012 6:21:36 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (eat more possum.)
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To: Baynative
I have this great idea, let's let EVERYONE ride in the cart. Then no one will have to pull it. It'll be great.

Instead of going Galt, we should all go Octomom and bring the needed crash about much faster.

42 posted on 01/13/2012 6:49:04 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Baynative
Needs to be REPEATED!!!

This must STOP!!

43 posted on 01/14/2012 4:02:19 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Baynative

You have lots of idiot Somalis there sucking down tax $$$. But Maine is 95% white I would think. So this welfare and poverty is a white phenomena. Maine has always been kind of poor, especially interior Maine


44 posted on 01/14/2012 4:05:52 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Repeat Offender

yeah....go Octomom! Can a guy do that?


45 posted on 01/14/2012 4:07:17 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: khnyny

“Let’s not forget the “underground economy” who use cash and don’t pay taxes, but collect benefits on top of income illegally earned.”

You can do pretty well when your health insurance, food, dental, utilities, rent are all paid/supplemented by state/federal gov’t, AND if you work under-the-table for cash.


46 posted on 01/14/2012 4:30:39 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: 21twelve
Right now, the freeloaders in Pennsylvania are having a hissy fit because any car worth over $5000 will count toward their asset test and possibly disqualify them from food stamps under pending legislation.

I've been behind some30ish looking able bodied EBT card user on a number of occasions, seen them buy food I can't afford, then get into some late modeled car and drive off.

I'm working 60 hour weeks with a gimpy back and driving a 15 year old car with 200,000 miles on it and still paying taxes to subsidize these freeloaders.

47 posted on 01/14/2012 8:56:50 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dennisw

There were some articles ago about an area of Maine (maybe Portland) being burdened by a rapidly growing population of Muslims who were not only overloading the welfare system, but working hard at political control and Sharia. Could this be the Somali influence you refer to?


48 posted on 01/14/2012 9:24:14 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Baynative

Somalis are growing and overburdening the Maine welfare system. They flocked to a city or two there. Not exerting any Sharia as far as I know................





Somali Migration to Maine: it’s the welfare magnet, stupid

Posted by acorcoran on November 22, 2009

Yesterday I brought to readers’ attention that now that the Somali population in Lewiston, ME is large and well-established, the demands for accomodation of Muslim religious practices has begun, see CAIR threatens, here. Among those who study Islamic supremacism around the world, this is known as the Stealth Jihad (see our entire category here)—changing a country from within to bring about Islamic dominance.

In my post I attributed a role to Catholic Charities in bringing the first Somalis to Maine, and after a little research I found that assertion was accurate. However, the majority of the thousands of Somalis now continuing to upset Lewiston are secondary migrants resettled by Catholic Charities and other federally contracted agencies in Georgia. Here is the best summary I’ve found so far about how Lewiston got to the point it’s at now with CAIR breathing down the necks of school adminstrators. I’ve only taken a bit of this very long and thorough 2002 article, so please read the whole thing.

LEWISTON — Every week, another four or five Somali families arrive in this workaday city on the Androscoggin River.

They are refugees from the clan-wracked ruins of their homeland on the Horn of Africa, from years of waiting in camps in Kenya. And they are migrants from their place of first resettlement in America, more often than not trekking 1,000 miles from the heat and multihued humanity of metropolitan Atlanta to this sparse, wintry, whitest of all states.

They are nomads, their ancient instincts honed to a 21st century edge. Pioneers in a new world, they discovered Lewiston and claimed a bit of it for themselves.

“It’s like finding a small island in the middle of the Pacific,” says Mohammed Abdi, who last year moved here from Decatur, Ga., and was quickly hired as the liaison between the city’s schools and the burgeoning Somali community. “We put it on the map.”

They were originally resettled with American blacks and that wasn’t going so well, an issue we have discussed at RRW on previous occasions.

In their exodus, they say they are looking for peace and quiet, cheaper housing, a more benevolent welfare system, better schools and a place to raise their children — families of seven or more are common —with fewer perils and temptations. That they are leaving a metro area renowned as an African-American mecca to resettle in Maine, home to fewer than 7,000 blacks in 2000, is less a matter of irony than intent, given the prickly state of their relations with African-Americans and a desire to protect their children from assimilating too quickly.

Scouts sent out! But, I will bet you anything they had some hints from their friends at Catholic Charities which was already resettling Somalis in Portland, ME.

Fed up with life in Atlanta —he was robbed twice — Abdiaziz Ali said members of the Somali community there researched other places on the Internet, comparing crime rates, the cost of housing, test scores. Then they sent scouts to a handful of cities — Kansas City, Mo., Nashville, Tenn., San Diego, Houston and El Paso in Texas, and Portland and Lewiston in Maine.

Maine was preferred, and Portland was full.

It is cold but the welfare is oh so good! Note when you read the article that some of the men stayed back in Georgia to continue to work while the wives and kids went to Maine for the welfare.

Indeed, in moving from Georgia to Maine, Somalis are trading one of the nation’s least generous welfare systems for one of its most generous.

Lewiston provides general assistance to anyone in need, splitting the cost with the state. Such relief was unavailable in Clarkston. In Georgia, there is a four-year time limit for receiving Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. In Maine it’s five, but even that can be extended. About a quarter of Lewiston’s Somali families receive that form of welfare, according to the state. And in Maine, a state-funded program assists single parents while they attend college.

There is a waiting list for public housing in Lewiston, but not nearly as long as back in Georgia. About a third of the more than 90 apartments at Hillview, Lewiston’s largest public housing project, have Somali tenants, and about 35 more Somali families have received Section 8 vouchers, which subsidize the rent on private apartments.

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Fulfilling that expectation [that people work] is complicated because so many of the Somali families are single mothers and children, the fathers dead, missing, still in Africa or still in Atlanta.

“The men don’t like it here — it’s too cold or too quiet or too behind,” says Fatuma Hussein, whose own husband still drives a taxi in Atlanta, making frequent visits to her and their three young children.

The role of Catholic Charities

There were no Somalis in Lewiston prior to the colonization that began after 9/11. Note in the article that Somalis are quoted as saying Portland was “full.” That would be full of primarily Somalis and Sudanese resettled in Maine by Catholic Charities, the only refugee resettlement contractor in the state for 30 years. That makes it easy for us to check the numbers Catholic Charities brought. Not nearly the tens of thousands resettled in other states, but from 1983-2005, Catholic Charities resettled 498 Somalis and 607 Sudanese (I mention the Sudanese because we have heard lots about problems with the “Sudanese community” of Portland recently). You will see later that the number 498 is inaccurate because in just 3 individual years during that time period, reported in annual reports to Congress, below, the number exceeds 498.

To this day, Catholic Charities is resettling new Somalis in Maine. The stats aren’t out for 2009 but in 2007 the number of Somalis resettled was 118 and in 2008 it was 60 (that drop may be because of the discovery by the State Department of the fraud in the family reunification program).

I don’t believe the Somali scouts found Lewiston all on their own—-I think there is a really good chance that earlier resettled Maine Somalis and Catholic Charities (CC) in Atlanta tipped-off the scouts to the lucrative welfare in Lewiston. So, I checked the Office of Refugee Resettlement annual reports to Congress for the years 1997, 1998, and 1999 to see how many Somalis CC had brought to Maine in the years preceding the migration. Sure enough, in 1997, CC resettled 228 Somalis to Maine, in 1998 the number was 168 and in 1999, 277. What are the chances that a few of those Somalis were “related” to Atlanta Somalis and told them to ‘come on up, the public assistance is great!’

Piven must be so proud!

Note to readers in Maine: I have many more discoveries I want to share with you in another post, things that need further research, but this is getting too long!

To all readers: If you want to learn more about the Lewiston multicultural experiment, search RRW for ‘Lewiston,’ we have written a lot on the topic.

For new readers:

The US State Department has admitted over 80,000 Somali refugees to the US in the last 25 years and then last year had to suspend family reunification because widespread immigration fraud was revealed through DNA testing. That specific program has not yet been reopened, but will be soon. Nevertheless, thousands of Somalis continue to be resettled as I write this.
http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/somali-migration-to-maine-its-the-welfare-magnet-stupid/


49 posted on 01/14/2012 10:31:52 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: dennisw

With the damage Catholic Charities is doing with aiding these Muslims in Maine...perhaps I’m not going to feel so bad about them having their tax funding pulled regarding their adoptive services and their so called stances against gay adoptions. Its a curious double game they are playing, aiding Muslims to undermine our country while pretending to be “profamily”.


50 posted on 01/14/2012 12:18:18 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make man into God but to restore fellowship of the Godhead with man.)
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To: khnyny

Don’t neglect those who have gone virtual Galt.


51 posted on 01/14/2012 4:59:21 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: khnyny

Going, going, going, gone Galt.


52 posted on 01/14/2012 5:18:54 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: MasterGunner01

You neglected the 30-30. There’s a bunch of them that around from the olden Daze (some are so old that even the BATFE doesn’t claim them as firearms).


53 posted on 01/14/2012 5:27:01 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: MasterGunner01

You neglected the 30-30. There’s a bunch of them that are around from the olden Daze (some are so old that even the BATFE doesn’t claim them as firearms).


54 posted on 01/14/2012 5:27:36 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Repeat Offender
"Instead of going Galt, we should all go Octomom and bring the needed crash about much faster. "

I still want to build the (gd) cart and decide who rides (no one). I'm for going Galt. My kids? They can choose to get into Zer0's cart. Not mine.

55 posted on 01/14/2012 5:32:46 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: PGR88
445,074 Mainers paid state income tax, while 453,194 received some sort of state aid.

That's why lefties always want mandatory voting and other "participatory democracy" schemes. The truth is that Republicans only get elected at all because so many welfare slugs are too lazy to even vote.

56 posted on 01/14/2012 5:43:34 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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