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FACT CHECK: Obama's 2012 State of the Union
Fox ^ | 1/24/12 | ap

Posted on 01/24/2012 7:50:33 PM PST by Nachum

WASHINGTON – It was a wish list, not a to-do list.

President Obama's array of plans in his State of the Union speech was light on a key piece of context -- namely, that his hands are so tied until after the election that it is doubtful many if any of them can be done in the remainder of his term. There can be little more than wishful thinking behind his call to end oil industry subsidies -- something he could not get through a Democratic Congress, much less today's divided Congress, much less in this election year.

A look at Obama's rhetoric Tuesday night and how it fits with the facts and political realities of the day:

OBAMA: "We have subsidized oil companies for a century. That's long enough. It's time to end the taxpayer giveaways to an industry that's rarely been more profitable, and double-down on a clean energy industry that's never been more promising."

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamas; sotu; sotufactcheck; sotulies; state; union

1 posted on 01/24/2012 7:50:40 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 01/24/2012 7:51:40 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Congress is irrelevant now; he just writes Executive Orders for what he wants and say “So let it be written....so let it be DONE!”


3 posted on 01/24/2012 7:52:44 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: Nachum
"...and double-down on a clean energy industry that's never been more promising."

Like Solyndra?

4 posted on 01/24/2012 7:53:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of an American president.)
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To: Nachum

fact? The first SOTU speech with a campaign fund raising craw.


5 posted on 01/24/2012 7:54:30 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Nachum

@arifleischer : I wonder if there will be an empty chair in the POTUS box for all the workers who didn’t get a job building Keystone.


6 posted on 01/24/2012 8:00:58 PM PST by Daffynition (When I was a chiId was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it)
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To: Nachum
That lie about thinking a dairy farmer can contain spilled milk without a federal agency looking over his shoulder was one of his all time best whoppers.


7 posted on 01/24/2012 8:05:53 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Nachum

This is from AP:

President Barack Obama’s array of plans in his State of the Union speech was light on a key piece of context—namely, that his hands are so tied until after the election that it is doubtful many if any of them can be done in the remainder of his term. There can be little more than wishful thinking behind his call to end oil industry subsidies—something he could not get through a Democratic Congress, much less today’s divided Congress, much less in this election year.

This is from Fox:

President Obama’s array of plans in his State of the Union speech was light on a key piece of context — namely, that his hands are so tied until after the election that it is doubtful many if any of them can be done in the remainder of his term. There can be little more than wishful thinking behind his call to end oil industry subsidies — something he could not get through a Democratic Congress, much less today’s divided Congress, much less in this election year.

You’d think Fox would dateline it AP.


8 posted on 01/24/2012 8:29:13 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a second party.)
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To: Baynative

9 posted on 01/24/2012 8:47:55 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Nachum

factcheck.org has determined that the SOTU address was 110% true. it was so factual that things we didn’t even know to be true turned out to be true.


10 posted on 01/25/2012 12:59:02 AM PST by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Nachum

My following issues with the address:

EMployment sounds like a great ambition, but why oppose the pipeline to Canada, we get more oil from Canada than from the unstable Middle East, pipelining sounds like a practical way to get the Canadian oil into the United States, at least I would prefer doing it that way as opposed to carrying it in tanker trucks, and the liability of trucks to become involved in accidents on major highways should add to my point. It would employ plenty of people to make sure there aren’t leaks, in addition to constructing the pipeline. I am all for making our energy sources more renewable, or deriving more energy from existing sources, but oil is second to water in terms of what we use it for, which is almost everything from chemical manufacturing, to engineering cutting edge carbon-based materials, or even syynthetic latex, just to name a few, and not forgetting the majority of automobiles either.

Either way, you can supervise the pipeline and make sure you aren’t having environmental issues at the same time, and hire people to do it.

I also struggled his long, drawn-out, and sometimes idealistically sounding account of how we got bin Laden: we did it, but terrorism is far from the worst apparent problem, and bin Laden is perhaps only the tip of the iceberg, but I just felt he could have been a little more brief on that part, I agree with most of the words, but I don’t know, being a little more concise, wouldn’t test my attention span as much.

It would also be interesting to just admit that some things were tried, and at least found right. Yes, I guess our president finally got some of immigration issues right, albeit the hard way, or I would at least hope the surge in deportations were physically ordered out, it would worry me if our president couldn’t have shown himself as being all that much in charge.

Either way, those are the primary points I had issues with while listening with last night, and my 2 cents to this discussion.


11 posted on 01/25/2012 11:17:43 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Terry Mross

“You’d think Fox would dateline it AP.”

Yeah, sometimes Fox seems a little complacent to me to. I know that the people who run Fox News aren’t conservative, but they can at least act in their style of coverage as if they are a a real competitor with CNN and MSNBC


12 posted on 01/25/2012 11:19:54 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Terry Mross

“You’d think Fox would dateline it AP.”

Yeah, sometimes Fox seems a little complacent to me. I know that the people who run Fox News aren’t conservative, but they can at least act in their style of coverage as if they are a a real competitor with CNN and MSNBC


13 posted on 01/25/2012 11:20:05 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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