Posted on 01/25/2012 4:10:34 AM PST by ladymac
I'm involved with an argument on facebook with a liberal. I need quick facts to back up my hatred of Obama. She says it's all opinions and wants me to give facts. I need help because I don't have time to look up a lot of stuff. Thank you so much!
Agreed. Anyone who is aware of the concept of “evil” already knows Obama is. You might aim a little lower, perhaps he is “not American” or against “America as founded” - or maybe just go for text book socialist.
Evil is one moral concept that actually exists in the real world because certain acts and behaviors are so hateful and harmful secular reasoning cannot adequately fathom them.
Misanthropy—the hating of humanity is one of the greatest evils and acting upon this sickness of spirit even worse.
Coldly ending and ending the beginning of human life is the prime directive of evil and Obama is steeped in it.
Facts wont help in an argument with a liberal.
Hink, it’s a waste of your time, nothing you can say will sway them, nothing.
just point out how he has ignored the people since getting in like obamacare which most do not want and BTW you can tell them that I’m from the Uk and I know Govt health care and it’;s crap.
Try selling guns to the drug lords, try 5 tril of debt more than Bush in 8 years, try black panthers, try green energy tax payers scam to donors, if they say he’;s mart ask what grades did he get because no one has seen them, no one know much about him , try his book where he said he hung around with black radicals, radicals, chicanos IN ORDER TO NOT BE A SELL OUT .
Then say that in my book puts him as evil for this country because the country is being ignored and fooled and only those who worship him now are being duped
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No; the use of the word “evil” is not over the top.
Obama bases his entire approach to government upon a Marxist/socialist theory of class struggle. It is evil in two ways (and I pick only two for brevity’s sake) which are easily explainable and rely upon the “facts” of the policies Obama advances.
Class warfare - Obama preaches that the rich are not entitled to keep the fruits of their labor (or the labor of their wealth). This is envy and evil (”thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor’s.”). Jesus preached a parable against spiritual envy (Matthew 20:1-16), and likewise it is evil to envy the worldly treasure that others have, let alone base a principal of governance upon it. Of course I have based my objection on Judo-Christian moral precepts but envy is equally condemned by other ethicial systems as unfair and unwise. To forestall a future pointless argument note that the Christian obligation of Charity does NOT equate with progressive taxation in that Charity is, and must be, a voluntary act; an act of free will- otherwise it is meaningless.
The Entitlement Culture. Obama is a proponent of “positive” rights. He advocates a government which guarantees a right to medical care, a right to a living wage, a right to adequate food and a right to shelter. These rights have the inevitiable result of State tax servitude for all those who do work. Slavery is evil and the fact that one labor’s for the unjust enrichment of rich plantation owners or the poor masses makes no difference - it is theft of labor accomplished by the monopoly of State violence and evil.
These two principles are evil in both theory and application. Obama advances both of these openly and is proud of his positions (no argument that he does these things).
Why bother? Zerobots are under a “strong delusion”. Do something productive. Reload more ammo. That is something you may need.
Hit your friend with the truth...
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Give up! Liberals do not have the capacity to independently think, rationalize, analyze, or make decisions by themselves.
Furthermore, they don’t watch or read unfiltered news.
Give up and talk to someone that is not a zombie.
Given your lack of time and the obvious lack of intelligence of the libtard you are having a discussion with, I'd keep things very simple ... like posting a copy of the Pee Wee Wee Wee.
You went down the wrong road with your argument. Arguing whether someone is “evil” is, in fact, an aporia (an argument for which there is no definite conclusion, no right or wrong).
If I were going to argue that he supports an evil agenda, I would simply point to the fact that while he was Senator of IL, he took to the floor not once, not twice, but three times to argue in defense of a piece of legislation that would require doctors who botch an abortion to wheel the living baby on a gurney into a supply closet to force the child of die.
I would then let my opponent try to defend how such an act is not evil.
I believe Obammie the Commie is, in fact, evil.
But, from the perspective of formal logic, it was a bad start to a debate. An aporia is an argument that cannot be settled one way or another because opinion or the unknown enters the debate. Two people arguing whether a third is “good” or “evil” is an aporia.
A better approach from the perspective of formal debate would be to list specific actions that the third person took (that you believe to be evil) and to force your opponent to try to defend them as good. Your opponent will be reluctant to do so, because they will be forced to support what they believe to be evil and will avoid the argument, which will become their weakness.
See my other post for my example using his support of legislation that would require doctors in IL who botch abortions to let a living child starve to death.
“[Montesquieu wrote in Spirit of the Laws, VIII,c.12:] ‘When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.’” — Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book
“Evil” is over the top in our society, but you can prove how he (and all leftists) are anti-Christian.
You can step through the ten commandments and show how the policies and platform of the left are in diametric opposition to all of God’s commandments.
Start with the easy ones, go from #10 down.
Their whole political ideology is centered around coveting.
I will let my argument be this: I choose not to go into great detail on my opinions and beliefs about our current Res-i- dent, for reasons of potential personal security.
He has increased the national debt more than every president from Washington to Clinton.
That means your children’s children will be paying - literally - for his folly.
That’s pretty evil. Especially as a likely outcome of that situation will be war (the only viable way to resolve untenable national debt is either steal from others on an international scale, or kill the creditors).
Great research here RB
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