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Joe Paterno memorial service: Phil Knight says coach is not the villain in Penn State scandal
Washington Compost ^ | 1/26/2012 | Cindy Boren

Posted on 01/26/2012 9:26:20 PM PST by WPaCon

“Whatever the details of the investigation are, this much is clear to me: There was a villain in this tragedy. It lies in the investigation, not in Joe Paterno’s response to it,” Knight said, prompting a prolonged standing ovation from the crowd in the Bryce Jordan Center on the Penn State campus.

Despite Paterno’s actions, “he was excoriated by the media and fired over the telephone by his university. Yet in all his subsequent appearances in the press, on TV, interacting with students, conversing with hospital personnel, giving interviews, he never complained, he never lashed out. Every word, every bit of body language conveyed a single message: We are Penn State.

“So I do not follow conventional wisdom. Joe is my hero. Every day for 12 of the last 12 years [since the death of Bowerman]. But it does lead me to this question: Who is the real trustee at Penn State University?”

Knight wrapped up his comments by recalling his reaction to the news that Paterno had died.

“In periods of stress and grief, you say things that surprise you. When I came back from Mass on Sunday ... [and learned that Paterno had died], the first words out of my mouth, way out of sequence and typically self-centered, through the tears, I asked, “Who is going to be my hero now?’ It's a question everyone in this arena should ask and I do not have an answer for you, but I can tell you this much, that old hero set a standard that will live forever. Thank you.”

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There is a more complete story about the memorial service by the Washington Post, but I can't access it, since I am not a subscriber.

Don't ask me why I was able to access this one though. I have no idea.

1 posted on 01/26/2012 9:26:23 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: Twink

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2 posted on 01/26/2012 9:27:41 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: WPaCon

It’s sad that Paterno is dead.

It’s sad that Paterno’s legacy is ruined.

But he stood by and did nothing. He knew the facts and allowed the perp to be on the PSU sidelines.


3 posted on 01/26/2012 9:30:03 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: WPaCon

Phil Knight is simply not a credible judge of character. He’s contributed to the ultra-leftist Ron Wyden, DemonRAT of Oregon.


4 posted on 01/26/2012 9:32:32 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: WPaCon

Mr Knight spoke the truth. I just saw the replay of the service on BTN.


5 posted on 01/26/2012 9:32:59 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: re_nortex

Nike is also on most pro-life boycott lists. I don’t have any of their stuff because of that.

I’m considering writing a letter to Nike explaining that as a Penn State fan, I appreciate Knight’s sentiments, but I will not buy his products because of where he donates to. I’ll say that since he has shown himself to be a man of conviction today and Catholic (since he mentioned going to Mass in his speech), maybe he will consider donating his funds elsewhere, perhaps to Thon (which is a Penn State affiliated charity that raised $9.5 million for pediatric cancer last year.)

Part of me wonders if he did this speech as a business move. Probably not, but who knows?


6 posted on 01/26/2012 9:41:49 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: rbmillerjr

100% agree. Joe did nothing..which is as worse as someone becoming a victim in front of your eyes and you just try to ignore the crime. Ah well, rest in peace anyways Joe.


7 posted on 01/26/2012 9:43:03 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: WPaCon
"Phil Knight says coach is not the villain in Penn State scandal "

That's exactly right. He's not THE villain. He was just the villain's enabler. He knew, accepted, watched, was aware, and tacitly approved of the serial rape of God only knows how many children over decades. No, he wasn't the perpetrator, but he was guilty of accessory to child rape. May he burn in everlasting Hell. PISS ON HIS GRAVE. All of you pukes that are glorifying this sick bastard's actions are just as sick as he was.

8 posted on 01/26/2012 9:43:45 PM PST by matthew fuller (God bless ALL of our veterans, Navy SEALS, and especially our snipers!)
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To: matthew fuller

Did you really just type that?

I never knew he watched the serial rape of children.


9 posted on 01/26/2012 9:46:54 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: matthew fuller

Guess what....you don’t get to judge Paterno....only God gets to do that.


10 posted on 01/26/2012 9:47:19 PM PST by superfries
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To: WPaCon

a good man who made big mistakes, but judgment is way above my pay grade...RIP JoePa


11 posted on 01/26/2012 9:48:36 PM PST by bigbob
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To: matthew fuller

BTW....snipers are not looking for you to ask God to bless them. He is however their enabler.....


12 posted on 01/26/2012 9:49:24 PM PST by superfries
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To: rbmillerjr

Perhaps Mr. Paterno didn’t do ENOUGH, but you can’t say he did nothing. He admitted as much in his last interview.

I really don’t understand all this bitterness toward Mr. Paterno. The man has gone to God. Whatever his mistakes, the Lord will judge him now. We should stay out if it.

How would you like to go through life doing good, then make one mistake and have people vilify you for that one mistake?

By the way, the allegations against Mr. Sandusky have yet to be proven in a court of law. When did the law change whereby we assume someone is guilty until proven innocent?


13 posted on 01/26/2012 9:51:59 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: WPaCon

He, and others, knew without a doubt that Sandusky was molesting children in Penn State athletic facilities. He took it seriously enough to remove Sandusky as his successor. However, Paterno, and the other power elites, didn’t even bother to take away Sandusky’s keys to the buildings. We cannot know what their exact thoughts were, but their guilt is heavy.


14 posted on 01/26/2012 9:57:00 PM PST by iowamark
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To: WPaCon

Paterno did his job but decency sometimes demands that you do a little bit more than just your job.


15 posted on 01/26/2012 10:01:41 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: fatnotlazy

That one mistake was a doozy.

It got many young boys buggered and it is sickening.

I have no bitterness toward Paterno, I feel sorry for his pathetic ending.

He made poor decisions that ruined his legacy.

It really comes down to vanity for Paterno and the PSU affected. Truth is that he wasn’t capable at his age to deal with this problem. He should have retired years ago. Anybody who thinks he was a true coach in those last years in deluded.

Honestly, being a huge sports fan and a fan of Eastern Football, it was just a sad ending.


16 posted on 01/26/2012 10:17:26 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: WPaCon
How can Joe be blamed when the state department of Welfare {CPS} and the campus security {a state level LEA} cleared Sandusky? Joe saw nothing and he is hated. A wrestling coach saw inappropriate touching I doubt one Freeper knows that. Joe turned the investigation over to those both in the state law enforce and and CPS to do their jobs.

What is worse is people do not realize that Joe would not have access too what those investigations turned up as they involved minors.

Sandusky from a time line I saw seemed to be all over the Athletic Department. That made it the AD and campus security responsibility. The investigations were highly flawed and Joe was not a sworn LEO.

When the offenses began and were reported he was a 67 year old coach. When he was fired he was an 85 year old coach dieing of cancer. IOW The perfect Penn State Administration Scapegoat.

17 posted on 01/26/2012 10:25:39 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: WPaCon

Days and days of this on the news. Top story. Paterno did nothing with what he knew. Death does not make him any better than someone who just looked the other way while boys were being molested. The scenes with the flowers and candles around his statue were ridiculous. Just goes to show what a football program at a college means versus all else.


18 posted on 01/26/2012 10:30:54 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: ReneeLynn
Paterno did nothing with what he knew.

Do people really believe this?

19 posted on 01/26/2012 10:37:45 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: WPaCon
Yea they believe it because they don't dig enough to learn that Joe did do something about it as did others. What you can not make them understand is you can't make the ones who do these investigations fully do their jobs. The campus security or chief of security should have gotten restraining orders. CPS especially since the accused was a foster parent should not have brushed off the first accusations and let him off the first time with an “I'm Sorry”.
20 posted on 01/26/2012 10:44:03 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: WPaCon

It’s not a question of “THE” villain.

There were lots of villains, great and small.


21 posted on 01/26/2012 10:47:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: cva66snipe

I have a hard time believing that most people would have done more than what Paterno did.

While we all wish he did more, it’s hard to condemn someone for doing what most of us would have also done if we were in his shoes.


22 posted on 01/26/2012 10:56:35 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: WPaCon
No, Joe didn't do the crime he was just an accessory to it. Bottom line, he is getting what harboring a criminal gets. I feel nothing for him but I do feel something for all those little boys he let be molested. Penn State fans, face it and quit sticking up for this creep.
23 posted on 01/26/2012 11:04:02 PM PST by fish hawk (Tebow or Rodman, who would I like to introduce my grandson to? MMmmmmmm)
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To: WPaCon
I have a hard time believing that most people would have done more than what Paterno did. While we all wish he did more, it’s hard to condemn someone for doing what most of us would have also done if we were in his shoes.

They couldn't have. Nor could Joe. Joe knew only hearsay as far as any court action. The ones in charge of the investigations knew a lot more than Joe as did higher ups in the Athletic Department and campus security.

Even if you are the witness too the offense it is not as simple and cut and dry something will get done by those who are supposed to handle abuse cases as some think. The agencies that do the investigations of child abuse are generally ran by incompetentent Liberals. You can yell at them, scream at them, make threats, but they and not you have say of the investigations and of what gets too court.

24 posted on 01/26/2012 11:05:19 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: max americana
To me Paterno is no better than the Germans that saw and smelled those weird ashes raining down on there houses. They knew there were Jews burning but didn't want to make waves. Harsh but if one of those little kids were mine I would have tried to destroy that SOB, both of them.
25 posted on 01/26/2012 11:08:57 PM PST by fish hawk (Tebow or Rodman, who would I like to introduce my grandson to? MMmmmmmm)
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To: WPaCon
There was a villain in this tragedy. It lies in the investigation,

Yeah, that's the ticket. "investigating things" is the problem.

"This is Happy Valley, We don't mention unhappy things"

26 posted on 01/27/2012 12:21:27 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Whatever happened to that Amy Summerland sailing chick?)
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To: re_nortex

“Phil Knight is simply not a credible judge of character. He’s contributed to the ultra-leftist Ron Wyden, DemonRAT of Oregon.”

That’s not his only offense. He’s responsible for the UofO having the ugliest football and band uniforms in the history of the sport.


27 posted on 01/27/2012 12:25:51 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork.)
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To: WPaCon; cva66snipe

No, you don’t tell campus security and then wash your hands of it. You tell the real police and report a crime.


28 posted on 01/27/2012 1:18:44 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: ReneeLynn
The campus security is the police {state LEO} The Pennsylvania department of Welfare who does abuse investigations is state investigators. THEY KNEW!!!! They Cleared Accused The Accused or rather in one case let him say "I'm sorry" and that was it case closed. Joe Didn't clear him.

The accused was also a foster parent it is the job of CPS or whoever to investigate foster parents regularly. Not Joe's. Lot's of people over Joe's head at Penn State knew it seems. Campus Police knew more than Joe because Joe would not be Privy to their own and the CPS investigation info. Why? Because crime was against a child and privacy laws apply.

If you saw a kid being abused and you reported it do you believe they would investigate? They might or they might not but YOU won't know. If Joe, the janitor, or Binky The Clown had called the Children's Protect Services known as Dept of welfare they might or they might not take anyone serious. You call and ask outcome? You will not be told. It wasn't just Joe who wasn't told but also Second Mile. The system that is supposed too protect abused kids as far as abuse goes stink in most states.

I'll tell you one better and it is the truth. If it is your blood relative abused and you are not the parent you will be told Zilch by these by most such agencies about the investigation and likely the findings.

29 posted on 01/27/2012 1:52:53 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: ReneeLynn

BTW after agencies who are supposed to investigate abuses against kids botch a case they go looking for scapegoats. It sure won’t be them. I know that for a fact.


30 posted on 01/27/2012 1:57:15 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: bigbob

Well said. I share those sentiments.


31 posted on 01/27/2012 4:33:34 AM PST by 07Jack
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To: max americana
Joe did nothing

Excuse me. I thought he reported what he had HEARD about Sandusky to the Athletic Director. Sandusky was FIRED shortly thereafter. Is this not true?

ML/NJ

32 posted on 01/27/2012 6:14:19 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: cva66snipe

“If you saw a kid being abused and you reported it do you believe they would investigate? They might or they might not but YOU won’t know.”

Oh please. If he knew nothing else, he KNEW that asswipe was all over “his” locker room. Kids in tow nearly everywhere he went. Football camps with lot of kids.

He knew Sandusky had keys to the facility right up until he had handcuffs placed on him.

And he never said or did another thing about it. All those years. Year after year after year after year. Paterno sat like a potted plant knowing the questions, yet never demanding answers.

Weak character doesn’t even begin to describe it. He was an enabler.


33 posted on 01/27/2012 6:18:40 AM PST by battletank
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To: cva66snipe
Ditto to your comments.

Let me add...If you watched, really watched, the memorial...if you stood in line as I did to pay final respects to Joe...if you heard the countless stories of Joe's character and actions...you understood that football was only a small part of what Joe was about.

I am finally at peace with the accusers and their ignorance of Joe and the situation. Joe Paterno was a man of great character and a man of action. When you hear how he directly affected the lives of thousands of people and hear the countless stories of his encouragement, support, and humble philanthropy, you know that there is no way this man of faith, dignity, and action could have been aware of ongoing evil and done nothing. There is no way Joe was aware that the campus and the prosecutors dropped the ball so dramatically.

What happened at PSU is a classic example Satan seeking to destroy that which is good and decent. The seed of evil was planted like poison pill and its purpose was to destroy the Great Experiment.

34 posted on 01/27/2012 6:32:55 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: LoveUSA
I am finally at peace with the accusers and their ignorance of Joe and the situation. Joe Paterno was a man of great character and a man of action.

_______________________________________

Then your head is in the sand or someplac else where the sun can't shine.

Paterno enabled a predatory, homosexual serial child molester. He showed neither character nor action.

Football is absolutely meaningless in the face of child rape.

Get over your hero worship and face the truth.

35 posted on 01/27/2012 6:38:19 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

He’s dead. His sins are between him and God now. Leave him be.


36 posted on 01/27/2012 6:39:41 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: wtc911

I stand by everything I said.


37 posted on 01/27/2012 6:46:37 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; LoveUSA
leave him be?

Sure, right after hero-worshiping apologists take him off the pedestal.

There is nothing noble or heroic about coaching, at any level. It's a job, even for the best of them.

What is heroic and noble is doing the right thing when it's the hard way to go. Faced with evil (do you have another word for child-rape?) Paterno did nothing. Uour hero-worship can never change that fact.

We are not defined morally by our avocation but by our actions or inactions. Paterno's inaction let the child rapist continue his predation.

That make's him a dirtbag in my book....just like any other predator-enabler....regardless of how many "games" he won.

38 posted on 01/27/2012 7:36:10 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Yeah, that's the ticket. "investigating things" is the problem.

You don't have a problem with the way the investigation went?

39 posted on 01/27/2012 7:39:19 AM PST by WPaCon
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To: ReneeLynn; cva66snipe

Campus security is the real police there.

It’s an arrangement that’s bound to be abused, but that’s the way it is.

For clarification purposes, he reported it to a person who oversees the campus police, not the campus police itself.


40 posted on 01/27/2012 7:41:26 AM PST by WPaCon
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To: LoveUSA

I’ve slowly came to the same conclusion as you.

There were a lot of people with knee jerk reaction, but public opinion is now beginning to reflect the truth of the story.

After talking to so many people that knew him and have interacted with him, it’s almost unfathomable that he would knowingly enable child rape. People almost unanimously praise him. Now, since he is not perfect, there are a few people who don’t particularly like him that I have talked to. However, in most cases, their complaints were petty and said as much about them as Paterno.

Listening to Michael Robinson’s speech yesterday, does Paterno really sound like a guy who would enable such a thing?


41 posted on 01/27/2012 7:51:00 AM PST by WPaCon
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To: rbmillerjr
“Truth is that he(Paterno) wasn’t capable at his age to deal with this problem. He should have retired years ago.”

EXACTLY.

I have to laugh at those who are so CERTAIN of his innocence or guilt. All of the FACTS are not established. They will be in time. No one yet has the COMPLETE story.

Remember the Duke “rape” case? Privileged white Lacrosse players, partying, hire strippers, one stripper claims to be raped. Before all the FACTS came to light, how many folks were CERTAIN these young men were guilty? Everything changed when the facts came out.

I think Sandusky is guilty of something. His apology to the Mother of a young boy and being caught naked in a shower with a young boy in a dark building, can't be explained.

Joe Paterno? The fact that he says he wished he did more is troublesome. Although, as the Sandusky allegations multiplied, I am sure there are a lot of people who wished they did more.

In a coming day we will learn who knew what. We will know the details. It could be Joe Paterno knew everything and is responsible for not doing enough to stop it. It could be he was an old man, out of touch with the subject matter, old and feeble minded, unable to grasp the reality of the situation.

Something tells me the truth is in between and there will never be a happy ending to this story for anyone.

42 posted on 01/27/2012 8:22:17 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: WPaCon
Another thing that strikes me after listening to everyone who recounted Joe's last days. He never complained about his treatment, never whined about his condition, never lashed out at his accusers, and, when asked about the situation, he did not squirm to protect his image. Even after all the criticism, Joe spoke about the experience with Sandusky honestly and admitted his shortfalls.

How many people do you know who would respond that way if they were harboring guilt? None.

Character, good or bad, is hard to cover up.

43 posted on 01/27/2012 8:25:18 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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I see the usual false idol worshippers swooping in defend their boy Joe and Pedophilia Penn.

I have no respect for those who worship at the feet of athletics.

I've been here long enough to know if he'd been a priest or bishop who passed the buck on such allegation as Joe did, the pitchforks and torches would be out and trashing of the Catholic Church would be ... sport.

44 posted on 01/27/2012 8:43:52 AM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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To: dixiechick2000
That’s not his only offense. He’s responsible for the UofO having the ugliest football and band uniforms in the history of the sport.

The University of Maryland Terrapins are now challenging the Oregon Ducks for the title of the most bletcherous uniforms in all of sport.


45 posted on 01/27/2012 9:47:37 AM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: battletank
You tell me then what did the university campus police and the state welfare know and why didn't they do their jobs? Never been in an abuse case before have you? If the campus police and state welfare whom BTW allowed him to be a Foster Parent did not act so WTH do you thing Joe would have? Based of what? Hearsay??? Does you boss act on every water cooler rumor? You would have a small work place if he did.

It was THEIR JOB {meaning the state agencies} to Investigate and act. They didn't ant it came back too bite them like it does many times in these cases. What did they do? The looked for someone else to blame. Who did they blame? An 85 year old dieing man. Joe's only downfall was believing people sworn an oath to do a duty would actually do it. So did I till I got hung out too dry in an abuse case. Only I had evidence. None of it got used. Should I have went too jail? Hell I almost did trying too get someone too listen. Then when it was botched and case lost they blamed me.

46 posted on 01/27/2012 10:26:01 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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ping


47 posted on 01/27/2012 10:28:35 AM PST by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: WPaCon

Thanks for the ping. I just finished watching the memorial service. What a great send off to Paterno by his former players, current players and students of the university. Cefalo’s was probably my favorite speech but all the others came close.


48 posted on 01/27/2012 6:26:36 PM PST by Twink
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To: rbmillerjr

Paterno’s legacy is far from ruined. The alumni, former players, current students at Penn State won’t allow that to happen. We will make sure the facts are known regardless of what the media wants.


49 posted on 01/27/2012 6:29:48 PM PST by Twink
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To: cva66snipe

Well said.

He can’t be their scapegoat now. The BOT and Penn State Admin got tons of blacklash trying to make Paterno the scapegoat. They didn’t count on all the people who supported him and technology available to counteract their agenda.

The BOT were trying to get rid of him for over a decade and this scandal provided a perfect opportunity for them, so they thought.


50 posted on 01/27/2012 6:39:13 PM PST by Twink
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