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'Birthers' Nonsense Sets Georgia Up For Ridicule -- Again
Columbus (GA) Ledger-Enquirer ^ | January 27, 2012

Posted on 01/27/2012 6:53:39 AM PST by transducer

We will risk the fairly safe assumption, as this is being written, that Air Force One did not make an appearance at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport sometime Thursday....

You almost have to laugh at this latest chapter in the seemingly endless “birther” saga, because about the only alternatives at this point are tears and/or nausea.

It was embarrassing enough when members of the Georgia legislature -- including, to Columbus’ acute humiliation, two members of the local delegation -- drafted a “Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act” in the last legislative session.

Now Georgians get to enjoy the added spectacle of their secretary of state, Brian Kemp, warning the president (let that sink in -- warning the president) through a White House attorney that failure to appear in a Georgia court would be “at your own peril.”...

Peach Pundit editor Charlie Harper, in a blog published this week in the Savannah Morning News, wrote: “This is a mistake. We are taught from a young age that we will be judged by the company we keep … The birther argument transcends disagreements of policy and politics and spirals into pure nuttery.” How true.

Georgia, no thanks to some judgment-impaired officials and certainly without the consent of the governed, has been slumming in the Orly Taitz nuttery neighborhood way too long. Please, for the sake of the state’s already battered image, let’s just quietly tiptoe out of this putrid political ghetto and back to the daylight side of town before we attract any more ridicule....

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: birtherism; birthers; crackpots; naturalborncitizen; nonsense; orly; orlytaitz; taitz; zot
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I was surprised to see (on the "I JUST TURNED BOORTZ OFF" thread that this crackpottery apparently has a following here. Then again, maybe it's a bunch of liberal trolls posting this Birther flapdoodle to make us look bad.
1 posted on 01/27/2012 6:53:44 AM PST by transducer
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To: transducer
Then again, maybe it's a bunch of liberal trolls posting this Birther flapdoodle to make us look bad.

You've been here ten days and you're concerned about "us" looking bad?

2 posted on 01/27/2012 6:56:05 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Snort.


3 posted on 01/27/2012 6:57:30 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: transducer

Flak...Target...


4 posted on 01/27/2012 6:58:05 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: transducer

IBTZ


5 posted on 01/27/2012 6:58:13 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: transducer

Freeper since 2012-01-17!!!

That says it all.

Take a hike troll.


6 posted on 01/27/2012 6:58:58 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: transducer
Since 2012-1-17

Yep, only Republicans should have to follow the laws in this country.

7 posted on 01/27/2012 6:59:24 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: transducer
I see you haven't created a homepage,yet.

I wouldn't bother.

8 posted on 01/27/2012 6:59:39 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: transducer

We hardly knew ya...


9 posted on 01/27/2012 7:00:18 AM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: transducer
Keep laughing, transducer and Ledger-Enquirer. Obama is not a natural-born citizen, no matter how many times he was born in Hawaii. His dad wasn't a citizen. He was ineligible for the Presidency last time, and is this time too.

And neither is Marco Rubio a natural-born citizen, in case folks want him to be VP.

10 posted on 01/27/2012 7:03:00 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: transducer

Wow, what a fact-filled, objective article you’ve posted there.


11 posted on 01/27/2012 7:03:34 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: transducer

12 posted on 01/27/2012 7:05:08 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: transducer

The article actually closes with this admonition:

“Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.”

I keep looking for the Ministry of Truth byline.


13 posted on 01/27/2012 7:06:00 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Leroy S. Mort; transducer
Oh looky here. A probable retread obot troll to play with for awhile.
14 posted on 01/27/2012 7:06:37 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: transducer

For the sake of argument, why do you label the desire of some citizens in the State of Georgia that a candidate for office of the President must actually PROVE he is eligable to hold said office as crackpottery?


15 posted on 01/27/2012 7:07:53 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Lady Heron
What does this nonsense have to do with following the laws of this country?


16 posted on 01/27/2012 7:08:21 AM PST by transducer
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To: transducer

transducer
Since Jan 17, 2012

view home page, enter name:
transducer hasn't created an about page and he reeks of obot.

17 posted on 01/27/2012 7:08:29 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: transducer

Win the prize!

Can you guess which presidential candidate the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer endorsed in 2008?

Question too tough?

Okay, here's a hint:

Obama Endorsed By Two More Georgia Newspapers (Sun Oct 26, 2008)

"Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama got a boost to his Georgia campaign today when he picked up the endorsements of the Macon Telegraph and the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer."


18 posted on 01/27/2012 7:08:51 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: transducer

photo


19 posted on 01/27/2012 7:08:57 AM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: LucianOfSamasota
IBTZ.

I smell ozone.

20 posted on 01/27/2012 7:08:57 AM PST by wbill
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To: An.American.Expatriate

If there is an actual fact-based dispute about eligibility, the Electoral College (which casts the actual votes) and Congress (which certifies the vote outcome) are responsible for settling the matter. This court has no jurisdiction.


21 posted on 01/27/2012 7:10:12 AM PST by transducer
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To: transducer

For you “journalists” to see this as nonsense turns around that “ridicule” vector.

Perhaps it takes a bit more than bottom-of-the-IQ journalism classes to detect multi-layered scanned documents with wrong names, different fonts, and out of sequence numbers.

There’s a reason you newspaper jocks are headed for the Obama food stamp and unemployment company.

Good riddance...and whilst you’re there, you might take a few classes in something that requires intellectual discipline...like computer science, physics, maths...etc.


22 posted on 01/27/2012 7:11:55 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: transducer

You concern trolls are so transparently pathetic.


23 posted on 01/27/2012 7:12:34 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: transducer; 50mm; Old Sarge; darkwing104; Vendome; reaganaut; Servant of the Cross; mkjessup

IBTZ!! Troll Alert!


24 posted on 01/27/2012 7:12:58 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: humblegunner

“Liberal Trolls”

Bump!


25 posted on 01/27/2012 7:13:44 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: transducer

Before you get the zot, I’d like to try and educate you.

The Georgia case is about whether or not Obama meets the definition of a Natural Born Citizen, which our SCOTUS has in the past determined to mean mommy and daddy were US citizens.

Obama does not meet this requirement.

See - I didn’t even have to speculate on where he was born.

And yes, little old Georgia can threaten to keep Obama’s name off of he ballot. The fact that he is already president does not remove their obligation to enforce their own laws. As stupid as that sounds, this is what Obama’s attorney argued.


26 posted on 01/27/2012 7:13:46 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: transducer

This must be the official Democrat spin to the story


27 posted on 01/27/2012 7:14:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: transducer

flattering.

Wonder what you really look like?


28 posted on 01/27/2012 7:15:37 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: lacrew
The Georgia case is about whether or not Obama meets the definition of a Natural Born Citizen, which our SCOTUS has in the past determined to mean mommy and daddy were US citizens.

Not so (see United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

29 posted on 01/27/2012 7:16:34 AM PST by transducer
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To: transducer

Every State determines elegibility of the candidates on the State ballot. If you don’t understand simple facts you shouldn’t be calling other people crackpots. Of course I don’t think you are going to be around here long enough to be educated on the facts of the case.


30 posted on 01/27/2012 7:16:34 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: transducer

Welcome to FR.

If Obammy actually responded to the suit, instead of having a default judgement entered, you wouldn’t have anything to whine about.. would you?


31 posted on 01/27/2012 7:16:43 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

300 million Americans, and the Democrats chose to run someone with a questionable and mysterious life history?

Why didn’t they find someone without baggage and with legitimate documentation? Are all Democrats with real histories too tarnished?


32 posted on 01/27/2012 7:17:07 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Darksheare

Every President has a constant barrage of frivolous lawsuits from people claiming that the CIA poisoned their begonias or some damn thing. Obviously, no President is going to respond to these actions — it would be a waste of time and would undeservedly dignify loony-tune attention whores.


33 posted on 01/27/2012 7:19:10 AM PST by transducer
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To: transducer
transducer

TROLLAPALOOZA ,,,, You are making a fool of yourself here and as for the hearing yesterday in Georgia goes ,,, a lot of strong evidence has finally gotten placed on the record regarding the bamster’s eligibility . Fraudulent BC , SS# and the fact 0’s father was a Kenyan citizen by 0’s own admission all now finally a matter of the record . The bamster as a result of running from this problem will now not be allowed on the Geo. ballot in the General election . One down 11 more to go . So put that in your crack pipe troll a pull real hard . This could all be put to rest quickly once and for all but for some strange reason 0bama continues to hide behind a veil of suspicion that will never go away because he is a usurper in chief .

34 posted on 01/27/2012 7:20:35 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: transducer

Oh brother are you a glutton for punishment.


35 posted on 01/27/2012 7:20:45 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: backwoods-engineer

Oh dear...
Not only are you confused but you seem to be contorted.


36 posted on 01/27/2012 7:22:53 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: transducer

I see that you haven’t actually answered the question.
Why does Barry have a social security number from Connecticut when he never lived there?
Why is everything about him hidden, shrouded, obfuscated?
And you cannot say that it isn’t.

Again, if he’d actually responded to it, i.e. had his lawyer appear, you wouldn’t have anything to whine about, would you?


37 posted on 01/27/2012 7:23:04 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: transducer
This court has no jurisdiction.

The State of Georgia has complete jurisdiction over who is allowed on the ballot for their state primary.

38 posted on 01/27/2012 7:23:36 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: transducer
You are WRONG!

The founders themselves made a distinction between a mere citizen and a natural born citizen in the same sentence of the Constitution IE "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Wong Kim Ark only deals with citizenship. Mr. Ark is NOT a "Natural Born" Citizen, neither is BHO, and NO court has ever said they are!

39 posted on 01/27/2012 7:26:46 AM PST by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: traderrob6

I notice that the “concern troll” hasn’t replied to any comments yet.

I also noticed that the article that was linked was full of strawmen. Set up a bunch of kookie conspiracy theories and imply that your opponent holds to those theories,

and don’t actually address the substance of the argument.

1) The hardcopy of 0bama’s supposed birth certificate is under seal in Hawaii. If the scan provided last year was an actual scan of the hard copy, why keep it sealed?

2) 0bama’s father was not a US citizen, therefore, little Barry is not a natural born citizen and is therefore not constitutionally qualified to be president.

Now, if some leftist wants to argue that we should ignore this qualification, hop to it.


40 posted on 01/27/2012 7:27:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: transducer
As the comment at the site says

The so-called "birther" issue was just vinidicated by one Barack Hussein Soetoro Soerbarkah Obama by his refusal to submit either of the two alleged birth certificates into a court of law. The president has just set a precedent that he is unwilling and unable to prove his Constitutional eligibility to be on any state's election ballot. What was the point of Obama's big smoke and mirrors magic show if he's not going to use those alleged birth certificates for anything more than paper training the White House dog??

I guess the O is just above it all, you know like laws, courts etc.

41 posted on 01/27/2012 7:27:39 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: transducer

Curious that you defend Obama.
Especially when he does stuff like this secretly sign laws into being without any constitutional authority to do so.
And it appears your only purpose here is to WHINE that Obama won’t be on the ballot inGeorgia.


42 posted on 01/27/2012 7:30:00 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: transducer

“Not so (see United States v. Wong Kim Ark.”

You are confusing the notion of citizenship with the natural born citizen requirement. I don’t know if you are deliberately doing this, or are ignorant. The case you cited above has absolutely nothing to do with it.

The SCOTUS case which deals with this is Minor v. Happersette, 1874.


43 posted on 01/27/2012 7:30:26 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Bigun

They had to make that distinction because at the time of ratification, no one would have qualified as a natural born citizen of sufficient age to be president, so they may an “initial condition” exception.

Yes, as you said, there IS a distinction between “natural born citizen” and “US Citizen”.

Now, if concern troll wants to say that we should ignore this qualification, go for it. State that the Constitution’s requirements and restrictions shouldn’t be adhered to today.


44 posted on 01/27/2012 7:31:32 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

A fine example of self-delusion: several paragraphs of whining followed by the hypocritical admonition.


45 posted on 01/27/2012 7:32:22 AM PST by edge919
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To: transducer

So, what was your handle before?


46 posted on 01/27/2012 7:36:04 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: transducer
This court has no jurisdiction.

The court sure thought it had jurisdiction to decide whether the candidate could be included on the state's ballot. IIRC such decisions were specifically left to the states by that pesky constitution.

47 posted on 01/27/2012 7:36:38 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: transducer

The president is a candidate for office. This hearing was directly involved to his endeavor to run for office. It was NOT a frivolous suit.


48 posted on 01/27/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by edge919
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To: transducer

bookmark


49 posted on 01/27/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: transducer
All this case is about is whether Obama should be on the ballot in GEORGIA. Three people have filed suit that say "prove your eligibility Obama."

They introduced a lot of evidence yesterday such as experts in scanning and photoshopping that doubt the authenticity of Mr. Obama's birth certificate. They said it was layered and scanned from several different documents. They said the masking or shadowing around the letters make the document fraudulent. Their testimony, not mine. They also introduced a lot of evidence that Mr. Obama provided via his books that his father Barack Obama Sr was never a US citizen. A supreme court case in the 1890 time frame was introduced to define what a natural born citizen was, an American born to two American Citizen parents at the time of birth. Additionally they introduced one of the Social Security numbers that Obama used in Hawaii, Illinois and Massachusettes that was originally issued to a person born in 1890 in the state of Connecticut. They stated that Obama had never lived in that state.

The judge was inclined to find for the plaintiffs at the beginning because the Obama team never even sent a lawyer to defend as they had in the past. If the judge finds Obama at fault for not proving his eligibility the Secretary of State of Georgia will block Obama's name on the Georgia ballot.

So all the people that think this has something with Obama not being born where he said he was need to get a clue and read some of the background. Of course they will continue to obfuscate and say these are crazy birthers, because they don't know any better.

50 posted on 01/27/2012 7:37:27 AM PST by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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