Skip to comments.'Birthers' Nonsense Sets Georgia Up For Ridicule -- Again
Posted on 01/27/2012 6:53:39 AM PST by transducer
We will risk the fairly safe assumption, as this is being written, that Air Force One did not make an appearance at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport sometime Thursday....
You almost have to laugh at this latest chapter in the seemingly endless birther saga, because about the only alternatives at this point are tears and/or nausea.
It was embarrassing enough when members of the Georgia legislature -- including, to Columbus acute humiliation, two members of the local delegation -- drafted a Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act in the last legislative session.
Now Georgians get to enjoy the added spectacle of their secretary of state, Brian Kemp, warning the president (let that sink in -- warning the president) through a White House attorney that failure to appear in a Georgia court would be at your own peril....
Peach Pundit editor Charlie Harper, in a blog published this week in the Savannah Morning News, wrote: This is a mistake. We are taught from a young age that we will be judged by the company we keep The birther argument transcends disagreements of policy and politics and spirals into pure nuttery. How true.
Georgia, no thanks to some judgment-impaired officials and certainly without the consent of the governed, has been slumming in the Orly Taitz nuttery neighborhood way too long. Please, for the sake of the states already battered image, lets just quietly tiptoe out of this putrid political ghetto and back to the daylight side of town before we attract any more ridicule....
(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...
You've been here ten days and you're concerned about "us" looking bad?
Freeper since 2012-01-17!!!
That says it all.
Take a hike troll.
Yep, only Republicans should have to follow the laws in this country.
I wouldn't bother.
We hardly knew ya...
And neither is Marco Rubio a natural-born citizen, in case folks want him to be VP.
Wow, what a fact-filled, objective article you’ve posted there.
The article actually closes with this admonition:
“Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.”
I keep looking for the Ministry of Truth byline.
For the sake of argument, why do you label the desire of some citizens in the State of Georgia that a candidate for office of the President must actually PROVE he is eligable to hold said office as crackpottery?
Since Jan 17, 2012
Win the prize!
Can you guess which presidential candidate the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer endorsed in 2008?
Question too tough?
Okay, here's a hint:
"Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama got a boost to his Georgia campaign today when he picked up the endorsements of the Macon Telegraph and the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer."
I smell ozone.
If there is an actual fact-based dispute about eligibility, the Electoral College (which casts the actual votes) and Congress (which certifies the vote outcome) are responsible for settling the matter. This court has no jurisdiction.
For you “journalists” to see this as nonsense turns around that “ridicule” vector.
Perhaps it takes a bit more than bottom-of-the-IQ journalism classes to detect multi-layered scanned documents with wrong names, different fonts, and out of sequence numbers.
There’s a reason you newspaper jocks are headed for the Obama food stamp and unemployment company.
Good riddance...and whilst you’re there, you might take a few classes in something that requires intellectual discipline...like computer science, physics, maths...etc.
You concern trolls are so transparently pathetic.
IBTZ!! Troll Alert!
Before you get the zot, I’d like to try and educate you.
The Georgia case is about whether or not Obama meets the definition of a Natural Born Citizen, which our SCOTUS has in the past determined to mean mommy and daddy were US citizens.
Obama does not meet this requirement.
See - I didn’t even have to speculate on where he was born.
And yes, little old Georgia can threaten to keep Obama’s name off of he ballot. The fact that he is already president does not remove their obligation to enforce their own laws. As stupid as that sounds, this is what Obama’s attorney argued.
This must be the official Democrat spin to the story
Wonder what you really look like?
Not so (see United States v. Wong Kim Ark.
Every State determines elegibility of the candidates on the State ballot. If you don’t understand simple facts you shouldn’t be calling other people crackpots. Of course I don’t think you are going to be around here long enough to be educated on the facts of the case.
Welcome to FR.
If Obammy actually responded to the suit, instead of having a default judgement entered, you wouldn’t have anything to whine about.. would you?
300 million Americans, and the Democrats chose to run someone with a questionable and mysterious life history?
Why didn’t they find someone without baggage and with legitimate documentation? Are all Democrats with real histories too tarnished?
Every President has a constant barrage of frivolous lawsuits from people claiming that the CIA poisoned their begonias or some damn thing. Obviously, no President is going to respond to these actions — it would be a waste of time and would undeservedly dignify loony-tune attention whores.
TROLLAPALOOZA ,,,, You are making a fool of yourself here and as for the hearing yesterday in Georgia goes ,,, a lot of strong evidence has finally gotten placed on the record regarding the bamster’s eligibility . Fraudulent BC , SS# and the fact 0’s father was a Kenyan citizen by 0’s own admission all now finally a matter of the record . The bamster as a result of running from this problem will now not be allowed on the Geo. ballot in the General election . One down 11 more to go . So put that in your crack pipe troll a pull real hard . This could all be put to rest quickly once and for all but for some strange reason 0bama continues to hide behind a veil of suspicion that will never go away because he is a usurper in chief .
Oh brother are you a glutton for punishment.
Not only are you confused but you seem to be contorted.
I see that you haven’t actually answered the question.
Why does Barry have a social security number from Connecticut when he never lived there?
Why is everything about him hidden, shrouded, obfuscated?
And you cannot say that it isn’t.
Again, if he’d actually responded to it, i.e. had his lawyer appear, you wouldn’t have anything to whine about, would you?
The State of Georgia has complete jurisdiction over who is allowed on the ballot for their state primary.
The founders themselves made a distinction between a mere citizen and a natural born citizen in the same sentence of the Constitution IE "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Wong Kim Ark only deals with citizenship. Mr. Ark is NOT a "Natural Born" Citizen, neither is BHO, and NO court has ever said they are!
I notice that the “concern troll” hasn’t replied to any comments yet.
I also noticed that the article that was linked was full of strawmen. Set up a bunch of kookie conspiracy theories and imply that your opponent holds to those theories,
and don’t actually address the substance of the argument.
1) The hardcopy of 0bama’s supposed birth certificate is under seal in Hawaii. If the scan provided last year was an actual scan of the hard copy, why keep it sealed?
2) 0bama’s father was not a US citizen, therefore, little Barry is not a natural born citizen and is therefore not constitutionally qualified to be president.
Now, if some leftist wants to argue that we should ignore this qualification, hop to it.
The so-called "birther" issue was just vinidicated by one Barack Hussein Soetoro Soerbarkah Obama by his refusal to submit either of the two alleged birth certificates into a court of law. The president has just set a precedent that he is unwilling and unable to prove his Constitutional eligibility to be on any state's election ballot. What was the point of Obama's big smoke and mirrors magic show if he's not going to use those alleged birth certificates for anything more than paper training the White House dog??
I guess the O is just above it all, you know like laws, courts etc.
Curious that you defend Obama.
Especially when he does stuff like this secretly sign laws into being without any constitutional authority to do so.
And it appears your only purpose here is to WHINE that Obama won’t be on the ballot inGeorgia.
“Not so (see United States v. Wong Kim Ark.”
You are confusing the notion of citizenship with the natural born citizen requirement. I don’t know if you are deliberately doing this, or are ignorant. The case you cited above has absolutely nothing to do with it.
The SCOTUS case which deals with this is Minor v. Happersette, 1874.
They had to make that distinction because at the time of ratification, no one would have qualified as a natural born citizen of sufficient age to be president, so they may an “initial condition” exception.
Yes, as you said, there IS a distinction between “natural born citizen” and “US Citizen”.
Now, if concern troll wants to say that we should ignore this qualification, go for it. State that the Constitution’s requirements and restrictions shouldn’t be adhered to today.
A fine example of self-delusion: several paragraphs of whining followed by the hypocritical admonition.
So, what was your handle before?
The court sure thought it had jurisdiction to decide whether the candidate could be included on the state's ballot. IIRC such decisions were specifically left to the states by that pesky constitution.
The president is a candidate for office. This hearing was directly involved to his endeavor to run for office. It was NOT a frivolous suit.
They introduced a lot of evidence yesterday such as experts in scanning and photoshopping that doubt the authenticity of Mr. Obama's birth certificate. They said it was layered and scanned from several different documents. They said the masking or shadowing around the letters make the document fraudulent. Their testimony, not mine. They also introduced a lot of evidence that Mr. Obama provided via his books that his father Barack Obama Sr was never a US citizen. A supreme court case in the 1890 time frame was introduced to define what a natural born citizen was, an American born to two American Citizen parents at the time of birth. Additionally they introduced one of the Social Security numbers that Obama used in Hawaii, Illinois and Massachusettes that was originally issued to a person born in 1890 in the state of Connecticut. They stated that Obama had never lived in that state.
The judge was inclined to find for the plaintiffs at the beginning because the Obama team never even sent a lawyer to defend as they had in the past. If the judge finds Obama at fault for not proving his eligibility the Secretary of State of Georgia will block Obama's name on the Georgia ballot.
So all the people that think this has something with Obama not being born where he said he was need to get a clue and read some of the background. Of course they will continue to obfuscate and say these are crazy birthers, because they don't know any better.
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