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Why Mitt Romney’s Electability is Not Inevitable
RedState ^ | January 29, 2012 | Ben Howe

Posted on 01/29/2012 12:50:34 PM PST by maggief

After many months of getting a pass, it seems that the other candidates are willing to finally start hitting Governor Mitt Romney on his major weakness: The Massachusetts Health Care Insurance Reform Law. The bill, known by most as Romneycare, is (as we all have been saying for many moons) the basis for the much maligned Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, otherwise affectionately known as Obamacare.

I’ve been in endless debates and discussions with Romney supporters and surrogates for some time now as they paint a beautiful picture of the ultimate State’s Rights battle. They claim that Romneycare vs Obamacare isn’t about socialized medicine vs the free market. They say it’s actually the core of the Federalist struggle and that Romney will channel Mr. Smith Goes to Washington and march onto the capital steps, fulfilling the dreams and desires of tea partiers nationwide by finally standing up and saying, “Enough is enough! Let the state’s make their decisions Obama! Your days of tyranny are at an end!” And they all rejoiced.

Yet, continually when Romney is approached on this subject in the debates with fellow Republicans, he seems incapable of defending any other point and seems befuddled at the idea that there might be more than one part about Obamacare that American’s had wholly objected to. For him, it’s all about the mandate.

But it’s important to keep in mind, Mitt Romney does not object to the concept of mandates. Far from it actually.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: elections; florida; mandates; notinevitable; romney; romneycare; statemandates

1 posted on 01/29/2012 12:50:37 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief
Romney's List, Romney's List
2 posted on 01/29/2012 12:52:30 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Jim Robinson; thouworm; onyx; STARWISE; hoosiermama
I would love for Mr. Coulter or Ms. Bondi to explain exactly how it is that Mitt Romney is going to get in front of millions of Americans, the majority of which couldn’t tell you the name of the Speaker of the House, and convince them that this slick, polished banker who for many will represent the very institutions that spent the last few years bankrupting the country, is totally not a hypocrite because after all, the 10th amendment and stuff. Yes he agrees with mandates. Yes he agrees with more bureaucracy around healthcare. Yes he agrees with top down government solutions. But federalism!!!
3 posted on 01/29/2012 12:57:22 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief; onyx; dixiechick2000; ntnychik

LOATHESOME BABY-KILLER EMBRACED BY ANN COULTER-MAHER

4 posted on 01/29/2012 12:58:26 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: maggief

Rombull is a double - dealing, fast - talking, four - flushing, back - stabbing, fork - tonged, bottom - dealing, Liberal in Conservatives clothes.


5 posted on 01/29/2012 1:03:49 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

But he’s got money.


6 posted on 01/29/2012 1:13:25 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, Rick and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: maggief

If Mitt Romeny is the nominee, I will hold my nose, close my eyes and pull the lever for Barack 0bama. Then I will go see a hypnotist to help me block out my mind what I had just done.

Romney is lower than 0bama on all levels. He is a detestable human being. He only uses his Morman faith to make himself seem pious. It’s just a tool to make him look like a Godly man. But Mitt Romney only worships himself and power. He is a liberal through and through.

If I am going to vote for this nations destruction, I will vote for a Democrat to do it, not a “Republican”.

0bama v Romney will be a clear vote on which man you want to drive us over the cliff. I say let 0bama be that man.


7 posted on 01/29/2012 1:13:38 PM PST by GR_Jr. (ABR / AB0 (Anybody but Romney, and then Anybody but 0bama))
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To: hoosiermama

Tehn that’s more to add that he’s a Saloon Gambling Hall Card Shark Buyng the taple the 5 Card Stud card game.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 1:17:24 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: hoosiermama

Tehn that’s more to add that he’s a Saloon Gambling Hall Card Shark Buyng the tabe the 5 Card Stud card game.


9 posted on 01/29/2012 1:18:00 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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10 posted on 01/29/2012 1:19:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: maggief
In the story there is a stance by Ron Paul that I agree with: Ron Paul’s answer to the question of people who couldn’t afford insurance nor their hospital bill seemed to be something along the lines of “screw them.” By and large, this has been considered a bad answer so conservatives have continually looked for other solutions

I believe the real "mandate" that needs to be repealed is the one that hospitals need to treat anyone regardless of their ability to pay

There is always some type of charity that can help out or payments (no matter how small) that can be made, or assets that can be sold off if one really needs medical attention.

The other part to the problem is the high costs which occur due to a large part by gov't regulation and malpractice insurance rates

If someone really needs a house or apartment, should the bank or landlord give it to them if the person(s) can not pay?

If someone really needs a car to get back and forth to work but can't afford one (even a cheap used one), should the car dealer give that person a car?

Of course not, but medical treatment is a commodity just like anything else.The mandate to make hospitals and doctors work for free (i.e. slavery) to treat anyone who can not pay, or pay needs to be repealed

Yes I'm a mean SOB, but a realist.

11 posted on 01/29/2012 1:23:23 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: SandRat; MinuteGal

Got a project...Ya wanna help? Trying to get this idea to Rush, Sarah, Rick, Florida tea party people etc. One emai will not get the message through.


Since Florida is a winner take all state and
Since Rick Santorum is home with his family,(as he should be) and
SInce the number of people supporting Willard is much less than the combination of Newt+Rick’s total

Can we make the suggestion that in Florida the Santorum backers cast their vote for the conservative that can beat the Moderate candidate, RUSH

We are NOT asking Rick to drop out, just help get a conservative not a moderate elected/stop Romney.

If Sarah/Rick/FR/teaparty others could get this message out (Not Newt it would sound desperate)it would easily put Newt over the top in FL.


12 posted on 01/29/2012 1:31:06 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, Rick and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: SandRat; MinuteGal

Got a project...Ya wanna help? Trying to get this idea to Rush, Sarah, Rick, Florida tea party people etc. One emai will not get the message through.


Since Florida is a winner take all state and
Since Rick Santorum is home with his family,(as he should be) and
SInce the number of people supporting Willard is much less than the combination of Newt+Rick’s total

Can we make the suggestion that in Florida the Santorum backers cast their vote for the conservative that can beat the Moderate candidate, NEWT

We are NOT asking Rick to drop out, just help get a conservative not a moderate elected/stop Romney.

If Sarah/Rick/FR/teaparty others could get this message out (Not Newt it would sound desperate)it would easily put Newt over the top in FL.


13 posted on 01/29/2012 1:40:21 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, Rick and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: maggief

First of Newt needs talking points. Romney is the empty suit, blind trust candidate. If Romney’s elected he’ll take care of his friends and let the rest of us fend. If elected he’ll compromise away everything he stands for. Romney can’t be trusted. He uses Obama-like Chicago thug tactics when he campaigns. And so on.

Second Newt needs to be ready for this stuff in a debate. He needs to use Santorum as an attack dog. He needs to fight as the underdog and paint Romney as the bully and the juggernaut and paint himself as the fighter while offering an articulate vision for America.


14 posted on 01/29/2012 1:41:34 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: All

The South Park Mormons theme song is” Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb.....Dumb”.
Mormons are a CULT plain and Simple, no differant than Scientology.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons


15 posted on 01/29/2012 1:41:57 PM PST by troy McClure
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To: maggief

Sorry, but Romney can’t win in the general election.

That IS inevitable.


16 posted on 01/29/2012 1:42:23 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SandRat

Otherwise known as a DICC.

D emocrat
I n
C onservative
C lothing


17 posted on 01/29/2012 1:58:25 PM PST by b9 (NEWT all the way)
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To: GR_Jr.
If Mitt Romeny is the nominee, I will hold my nose, close my eyes and pull the lever for Barack 0bama.

rat...It's the new conservatism.

18 posted on 01/29/2012 1:59:03 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: GR_Jr.
0bama v Romney will be a clear vote on which man you want to drive us over the cliff. I say let 0bama be that man.

You're exactly right! Let Obozo take the rap for what he started.

I think there are a tremendous amount of people who subscribe to the logic of your statement.

19 posted on 01/29/2012 2:15:04 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: PhilDragoo

I will never, ever...until doomsday...figure out why Ann Coulter has taken the positions she has lately. And, frankly, I don’t care.

She has proven to me during the past year that she is willing to sell her soul for some reason that I can’t imagine. Has she been bought? Has she become a “moderate and progressive”? Who knows?

I just know that I will never see her in the same light, ever again.

Excellent posting, as always, Phil.


20 posted on 01/29/2012 11:51:41 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help you if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000
I have four books by Ann Coulter, but all were purchased before she went gaga over Mitt Romney and I won't buy any more.

She's always been rabid, resembling one overstimulated on a Class A narcotic or a pharmaceutical amphetamine--that's her personal schtick.

But her ethos has been conservatism--now she is doing the Leni Reifenstahl for a soulless opportunist.

She joins Meagan McCain, John McCain, Bob Dole, Chris Christie, Karl Rove--and Donna Brazille.

We're given to understand she dated Bill Maher--that in itself is impossible to justify with conservative principles: never has there been a more tasteless attacker of any value regarding life and living.

If one can embrace Bill Maher, one has no decency--and she purports to name M. Stanton Evans the greatest living authority on Sen. Joe McCarthy.

Consider the lines, "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

I had the pleasure to watch M. Stanton Evans, then editor of the now-defunct Indianapolis News, destroy in debate Dr. Robert Risk the head of the Indiana Civil Liberties Union, the latter accompanied by bearded Marxist rabble with whom we YAF members later engaged, it being 1964 when conservatism was not at all popular, the American people preferring a six-trillion-dollar war on poverty, Medicare, and a losing Vietnam War.

Now comes the so-called conservative Ann Coulter pushing the hollow man.

She is powered by ego and the thrill of fame; not by principle.


21 posted on 01/30/2012 1:22:36 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: maggief; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; MEG33; ...

RomneyCare = ObamaCare in all respects. It is not free market, it is not conservatism and it is not states rights. Just opposite. RomneyCare is a top-down, government devised, government approved, government forced, socialist, intrusive, oppressive, mandate against the free citizens of a state. It’s no less socialist, no less intrusive, no less oppressive whether forced on the people at the state level or forced on the people at the federal level. It’s the same damn thing!!

RomneyCare = ObamaCare = government force = oppression = socialism = taxpayer funded abortion = death panels = tyranny!!

We are the resistance!!

Shove Romney/RomneyCare down our throats now, we shove Romney up your Donkeys in November!!

Rebellion is ON!!

NO ROMNEY, NO WAY!!

Mitt happens!!


22 posted on 01/30/2012 2:31:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: GR_Jr.
I will go see a hypnotist to help me block out my mind what I had just done.

Just stay home. Save yourself the guilt. That's what I'd be doing (and believe me, I've always been a "vote for the most conservative person you can get" voter, but Romney is Obama light. Can't go there.)

23 posted on 01/30/2012 2:31:52 PM PST by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: FrankR
Romney says he's going to "cut the waste in the Defense Department and use it to fund Obamacare"...!!! http://www.westernjournalism.com/mitt-romney-wants-to-fund-obama-care/

on tape on video TODAY

I've got to run to work, somebody please post this article!!!!

24 posted on 01/30/2012 2:38:36 PM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Just announced on FOX:

TODD PALIN WILL BE JOINING NEWT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL!

25 posted on 01/30/2012 2:47:01 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, Rick and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: maggief

Romney is a professional campaigner. He ran for president before and lost the nomination to McPain. Consider the MILLIONS the Romney campaign has spent so far. MILLIONS more than Newt to win in Fla and he still had to smear, attack, bash and bring in the gop establishment. I think the smears are going to backfire! even if Newt loses Fla. IF he goes on the offense and hits Romneys socialist record and promotes his OWN conservative ideas...Newt will win. Why did Newt win big in SC? he went after the media and promoted his own agenda. That is what the voters want. One of Mitt’s staffers said “we don’t just want to BEAT Newt..we want to destroy him” and this tactic may very well backfire.
Romney is struggling to get delegates and he needs 1245 to get the nomination. I don’t see how the Paul or Newt voters will swing his way. In the meantime...Santorum should get OUT!


26 posted on 01/30/2012 2:53:08 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: maggief

Mitt Romney is endorsed by Former President Bob Dole and by Former President John McCain as well.

Both of them are experts on electability, as they were victorious in their own Presidential campaigns.

Thus, their contention that Mitt Romney is the most electable should be respected.

Raise a glass to fond memories of the Dole Administration and the McCain Administration.


27 posted on 01/30/2012 5:28:07 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: cookcounty

WTF !!!!!!

Everyone needs to see this video


28 posted on 01/30/2012 6:01:08 PM PST by PMAS (Romney = Democrat tested, Soros approved)
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To: cookcounty

Wow. I listened to it a few times to make sure, but, oh my : / Then I sent it out on twitter. Hopefully someone will listen to it tonight and retweet it.

May God grant us strength.
Tatt


29 posted on 01/30/2012 6:27:43 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: cookcounty

cookcounty posted - http://www.westernjournalism.com/mitt-romney-wants-to-fund-obama-care/

Listen and share folks!

Thanks cookcounty.

May God guide our course.
Tatt


30 posted on 01/30/2012 6:31:51 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: b9
Otherwise known as a DICC. D emocrat I n C onservative C lothing

Just saw this -- WELL SAID!!! {^)

31 posted on 01/30/2012 7:42:49 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: troy McClure

Awesome episode!


32 posted on 01/30/2012 8:16:30 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump!


33 posted on 01/30/2012 9:41:59 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: PhilDragoo

“She is powered by ego and the thrill of fame; not by principle.”

Your conclusion is on the money, as is your entire post.

Thank you, Phil!


34 posted on 01/30/2012 11:46:00 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000
I am reminded of what Carville had to say about dragging money through certain residential areas... I do not think ‘gated’ communities are exempt. They have been ‘bain’-washed.
35 posted on 01/30/2012 11:58:51 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“They have been ‘bain’-washed.”

LOLOL!

That was excellent!


36 posted on 01/31/2012 12:29:07 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000
“They have been ‘bain’-washed.”

LOLOL! That was excellent!

Thanks. I won't claim it as original but I have never seen the two words put together before to describe Romney capital-ISM.

37 posted on 01/31/2012 12:42:11 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I don’t care if it’s original or not, that there is funny...and astute...I don’t care who you are. lol

BTW, I’ve not seen it before so I will cite you as the source. What a great tagline!

Thanks for the much needed laugh! ;o)


38 posted on 01/31/2012 12:45:50 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000
I don’t care if it’s original or not, that there is funny...and astute...I don’t care who you are. lol BTW, I’ve not seen it before so I will cite you as the source. What a great tagline! Thanks for the much needed laugh! ;o)

You are very kind. I have had a dour day, and it is good I can find humor to point out the obvious in two words. I am glad it gave you a laugh more so than I might be original.

39 posted on 01/31/2012 12:56:59 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: FrankR

If he’s nominated obama gets a second term!!!


40 posted on 01/31/2012 1:18:04 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Just mythoughts

Ha! I think I’ve overdosed on dour days lately. Your post gave me a much needed laugh, and made my mood more upbeat than it’s been in a while.

So...my sincere thanks to you. ;o)


41 posted on 01/31/2012 11:47:28 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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