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Military Is Telling Catholic Chaplains What They Can And Can't Say About the Obama Administration
Business Insider ^ | Feb 3, 2012 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 02/04/2012 10:25:49 AM PST by bkopto

The emerging conflict between the Catholic Church and the Obama administration may have a new front: in the U.S. military itself.

The Catholic Church is fighting mad about an HHS ruling that would have them buy insurance for things they consider sinful–contraception, sterilization and abortion.

All the bishops in the country sent out a letter to be read in their parishes promising that the Church "cannot-and will not-comply with this unjust law."

Even Archbishop Timothy Broglio, who is in charge of Catholic military chaplains sent out the same letter.

But after he did, the Army's Office of the Chief of Chaplains sent out another communication forbidding Catholic priests to read the letter, in part because it seemed to encourage civil disobedience, and could be read as seditious against the Commander-in-Chief.

More than one Catholic chaplain who spoke to us off the record confirmed that many chaplains disobeyed this instruction and read the letter anyway.

SNIP

The letter also tries to clarify to priests that the Archbishop's letter "concerns a moral, not a political issue."

While it is true that soldiers do not have an unlimited right to free speech or political action, the military does not want to strain relations with the Catholic Church and its chaplains who provide services to many service members of all faiths.

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The Military Is Now Telling Catholic Chaplains What They Can And Can't Say About The Obama Administration

1 posted on 02/04/2012 10:26:02 AM PST by bkopto
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To: bkopto

First they came for the communists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak out because I was Protestant.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.


2 posted on 02/04/2012 10:27:52 AM PST by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: bkopto

This is just the beginning.

I’ve long predicted that chaplains in the military are an endangered species.

Just wait till some chaplain speaks the Biblical truth about homosexuality.

They will have to choice either their faith or their career.


3 posted on 02/04/2012 10:29:07 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: bkopto

Oh joy, a new Commandment: “Thou Shalt Not Commit Integrity.”


4 posted on 02/04/2012 10:29:57 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: bkopto

not really a surprise anymore.


5 posted on 02/04/2012 10:30:04 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bkopto

It is the military and they are military officers and there have always restrictions on speaking specifically against an administration under normal circumstances. This does not prohibit speaking against certain “general” practices such as abortion as being antithetical to church beliefs as long as it is couched in religious and ethical terms and is not specific to a policy or policymaker.


6 posted on 02/04/2012 10:32:39 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I believe that Gen. Boykin is an EXAMPLE of what happens to a REAL CHRISTIAN that is a Chaplain in Obama’s military. VERY SCARY!


7 posted on 02/04/2012 10:33:41 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: bkopto
New Commandment

Thou Shalt Have No God Obave Me

8 posted on 02/04/2012 10:33:41 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: bkopto

I am NOT Catholic,however this is WRONG!

They have the RIGHT under their religion to oversea what is part of their belief.

45% of Cahtolic voted FOR Obama last time around despeite Obama’s “not wanting to punish his daughter with a baby”. Maybe this will help wake up Catholics that OBAMA is NOT your candidate.


9 posted on 02/04/2012 10:35:22 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: bkopto

I am NOT Catholic,however this is WRONG!

They have the RIGHT under their religion to oversea what is part of their belief.

45% of Cahtolic voted FOR Obama last time around despeite Obama’s “not wanting to punish his daughter with a baby”. Maybe this will help wake up Catholics that OBAMA is NOT your candidate.


10 posted on 02/04/2012 10:35:22 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: bkopto

This is why the commie lib “progressives” have been working so hard to remove religious people from the military. Bring on the wiccans, atheists, homosexuals and other assorted freaks. The military is headed down the same road that Hollywood, the national media and our educational institutions went.


11 posted on 02/04/2012 10:36:03 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: bkopto

This needs to be updated.

First they came for the Christians.

Then they came for the Jews.

Then they came for the whites who were not members of unions.

Then they came for the heterosexuals.

Finally the people fought back.


12 posted on 02/04/2012 10:38:55 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: bkopto
First they came for the communists, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak out because I was Protestant.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.


13 posted on 02/04/2012 10:39:55 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: nmh

A whole bunch of people got suckered into voting for that Kenyan poser.
Unless those same voters have been sleeping or in a coma for the last 3 years,they have no excuse this time around.


14 posted on 02/04/2012 10:45:00 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: bkopto
The letter also tries to clarify to priests that the Archbishop's letter "concerns a moral, not a political issue."

If the Administration makes the issue a law, then it IS a political issue. At some point, if this keeps up, we who side with freedom, liberty, God, and the Individual will HAVE to break the law, just as those who fought for civil rights in the past.

15 posted on 02/04/2012 10:45:26 AM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Quix; LucyT; ExSoldier; Nachum; SJackson; azishot; MestaMachine
Former Soviet Dissident warns for EU dictatorship

Snip:

The Soviet Union used to be a state run by ideology. Today’s ideology of the European Union is social-democratic, statist, and a big part of it is also political correctness. I watch very carefully how political correctness spreads and becomes an oppressive ideology, not to mention the fact that they forbid smoking almost everywhere now. Look at this persecution of people like the Swedish pastor who was persecuted for several months because he said that the Bible does not approve homosexuality. France passed the same law of hate speech concerning gays. Britain is passing hate speech laws concerning race relations and now religious speech, and so on and so forth. What you observe, taken into perspective, is a systematic introduction of ideology which could later be enforced with oppressive measures. Apparently that is the whole purpose of Europol. Otherwise why do we need it? To me Europol looks very suspicious. I watch very carefully who is persecuted for what and what is happening, because that is one field in which I am an expert. I know how Gulags spring up.

16 posted on 02/04/2012 10:45:59 AM PST by MamaDearest
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To: RJS1950

Forced abortions are unethical. Especially when the person you’re forcing into an abortion is somebody who has to do the killing and knows it is murder.

Are chaplains forbidden to speak out on the moral evil of forced abortions?

Obama has declared all-out war on Christianity. Forcing Christians to perform abortions is just an easier way for the Muslim caliphate to kill off infidels. This is the Anti-Christ’s way of beginning sharia. You just watch.


17 posted on 02/04/2012 10:46:11 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: bkopto

One cut at a time makes for a slow death of a country.


18 posted on 02/04/2012 10:49:07 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: bkopto
Granted I'm only a four-year guy but I seem to remember that there was some leeway when not in uniform. The letter is to be read at the end of Mass. Therefore, he is not in uniform but wearing the stole. Am I stretching or is this an out for the Chaplains?
19 posted on 02/04/2012 10:57:48 AM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: bkopto

Render unto Caesar . . .

Yes, but our Declaration made clear that Life - including the Life of an unborn child- is not to be Caesar’s.

I hope Catholic priests and lay soldiers, and other Christians, and people of all true faiths, leave the military altogether in protest. They will not, though. They will not even make a peep - they’d rather live in the Gilded Cage of their precious security clearances and their upcoming pensions, than act on their conscience.

As for the “national security” we will lose if they do all leave, it has been a charade since WWII anyway - a concerted effort by Globalists within and without our borders to have our blood and treasure and sovereignty spilled in absurd, hopeless “conflicts” in Third World hell holes of limited importance, while doing nothing of consequence to protect our southern border from invasion, nor address the Islamic danger steadily infiltrating our society and government and military.

We live again in the days of tyrants and traitors.


20 posted on 02/04/2012 10:58:13 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: bkopto

James Madison wrote in Detached Memoranda:

Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the U.S. forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion. The law appointing Chaplains establishes a religious worship for the national representatives, to be performed by Ministers of religion, elected by a majority of them; and these are to be paid out of the national taxes. Does not this involve the principle of a national establishment, applicable to a provision for a religious worship for the Constituent as well as of the representative Body, approved by the majority, and conducted by Ministers of religion paid by the entire nation.

The establishment of the chaplainship to Congress is a palpable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional principles: The tenets of the chaplains elected [by the majority] shut the door of worship against the members whose creeds and consciences forbid a participation in that of the majority. To say nothing of other sects, this is the case with that of Roman Catholics and Quakers who have always had members in one or both of the Legislative branches. Could a Catholic clergyman ever hope to be appointed a Chaplain? To say that his religious principles are obnoxious or that his sect is small, is to lift the veil at once and exhibit in its naked deformity the doctrine that religious truth is to be tested by numbers, or that the major sects have a right to govern the minor.

If Religion consist in voluntary acts of individuals, singly, or voluntarily associated, and it be proper that public functionaries, as well as their Constituents should discharge their religious duties, let them like their Constituents, do so at their own expense. How small a contribution from each member of Congress would suffice for the purpose? How just would it be in its principle? How noble in its exemplary sacrifice to the genius of the Constitution; and the divine right of conscience? Why should the expense of a religious worship be allowed for the Legislature, be paid by the public, more than that for the Executive or judiciary branch of the Government. ...


21 posted on 02/04/2012 11:00:06 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: MamaDearest

Does it seem to you as if WWII never ended? Because it sure is beginning to seem that way to me.


22 posted on 02/04/2012 11:00:23 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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23 posted on 02/04/2012 11:01:56 AM PST by hoosiermama (FR Unite... Get active contacting MSM, RNC. etc... freepmail : Mountain Mary.)
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To: dagogo redux

No, they actually are torn.

Their protest, which they won’t do for practical purposes, would be just what was intended.

The very and only problem is the voters voting in a president who has no regard for his main duty - upholding the Constitution.

People need to quit blaming the military for not doing what we civilians are supposed to do- take care of the military who protect us.


24 posted on 02/04/2012 11:03:16 AM PST by stanne
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To: MamaDearest

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.


25 posted on 02/04/2012 11:12:20 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: bkopto

True, but if we remove the muslims, we solve almost all the problems , right down to Obama!

America needs to recognize that Isla m is not a religion , yet it is pushing us around internally. Globally is a larger issue, a pill that we need not swallow neither, irrespective of how much sugar they coat it with!


26 posted on 02/04/2012 11:13:00 AM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: hoosiermama

Personally, I think a donation to FR might do more for the Republic than a donation to the GOP.


27 posted on 02/04/2012 11:13:53 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Never donate to the RNC...COntribute here as a dollar a day and donate to individual candidates.


28 posted on 02/04/2012 11:16:23 AM PST by hoosiermama (FR Unite... Get active contacting MSM, RNC. etc... freepmail : Mountain Mary.)
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To: himno hero

The Branch Davidians were viewed as a threat even though they were religious not political.

Islam is political not religious. We need to recognize that once Muslims reach around a 10% level in a country they are required to pursue sharia, which is an anti-US-Constitution political ideology. They become enemies of the US Constitution once they become 10% of the population. The US needs to take measures to make sure that they will never get close to 10% of the population, as a means to undercut an EXISTENTIAL and CONSTITUTIONAL threat to this democratic republic.

That’s not restriction of religion. It’s anti-terrorism.


29 posted on 02/04/2012 11:16:23 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: bkopto

If there’s an exception to buying the insurance in Sharia law, all the Catholics have to do is adopt Sharia law and they’re good to go.


30 posted on 02/04/2012 11:29:23 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: butterdezillion

I really wish the rest of America had a similar handle on it as you.

Globally, they want us to subscribe to their 7th century BACKWARDS BARBARIAN ways. Tell me.... What have these idiots contributed to modern man , political or religious thought?
Nothing. Nada. Yet they stay trapped, not able to solve their problems. They need their own rebirth. Maybe then they can enjoy progress.


31 posted on 02/04/2012 11:30:31 AM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: zot; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice

“good order and discipline” muzzles military priests.


32 posted on 02/04/2012 11:36:42 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: bkopto
The Military Is Now Still Telling Catholic Chaplains Military Members (Including Chaplains, Catholic or Otherwise) What They Can And Can't Say About The Obama Administration, The Congress, The Chain of Command, etc.

UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE:

888. ART. 88. CONTEMPT TOWARD OFFICIALS Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

33 posted on 02/04/2012 11:40:51 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: bkopto; LiteKeeper
From the above article it appears that such a directive was given, that it is not just rumor or hearsay:

Archbishop Broglio and the Archdiocese stand firm in the belief, based on legal precedent, that such a directive from the Army constituted a violation of his Constitutionally-protected right of free speech and the free exercise of religion, as well as those same rights of all military chaplains and their congregants.

Following a discussion between Archbishop Broglio and the Secretary of the Army, The Honorable John McHugh, it was agreed that it was a mistake to stop the reading of the Archbishop's letter. Additionally, the line: "We cannot-we will not-comply with this unjust law" was removed by Archbishop Broglio at the suggestion of Secretary McHugh over the concern that it could potentially be misunderstood as a call to civil disobedience.

First, this is an attack on the legitimacy of the Chaplain Corps itself, for, if they don't represent a real live denomination, then they represent the US government, and there is no such constitutional religion.

Second, the Chief of Chaplains went along with Obama, and in some frame of mind (drugged or drunken?) thought it "wise" to instruct chaplains to the ignore the doctrine and beliefs of HIS OWN church (Rutherford's also a Roman Catholic), a move that puts those chaplains at odds with their very reason for being in the chaplaincy in the first place...to be a fully ordained representative of their denomination to the military.

Third, one hopes the chief had some strategery in mind that missed the eye, because otherwise he deserves a dunce cap.

34 posted on 02/04/2012 11:46:52 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: bkopto
From the article :

Even Archbishop Timothy Broglio, who is in charge of Catholic military chaplains sent out the same letter. But after he did, the Army's Office of the Chief of Chaplains sent out another communication forbidding Catholic priests to read the letter, in part because it seemed to encourage civil disobedience, and could be read as seditious against the Commander-in-Chief.

What if the CIC is seditious??????? Where then do the oaths all (Congress, Judges, and the military) have taken come from theory to action.
IMHO this President needs to Articles of impeachment filled in the House. I understend it will never get by the Senate but the MSM would HAVE to cover it !!!
Time the Repubs get a pair !!

35 posted on 02/04/2012 11:48:59 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: stanne

I couldn’t disagree more.

I know people who have stayed in and people who have left on conscience. They are two different breeds, and the former far outnumber the latter.

I was in during the latter days of Vietnam supposedly “serving” or “protecting” my country. I only saw a small bit of action off the coast, but knew many who saw lots of action, and knew guys who died there, and I cannot believe that I or any other soul that was in that conflict, or any conflict since then, have really contributed much to the protection of this nation or its people. Our troops fight undeclared wars against vague enemies, following every imaginable goal under the sun except total victory, and have lost every such “war” since WWII. The home front is never mobilized for war, nor willing to do what it takes to vanquish our enemies. The whole thing is a charade.

I would applaud the patriotic motives of those who go in, except that the noble motives of these men need to be tempered by a realistic assessment of the mission: if they do that, they would never volunteer for these follies in the first place. And now, by staying in, they are simply propping up a national and global elite hell bent on tyranny and the destruction of the foundation on which this country was founded. For this reason, I do blame them, and I applaud any with the intelligence and honor not to participate.

Specifically, at this time they are serving and protecting a government that is willfully and brazenly trampling on the religious freedoms on which this nation was founded, and they are violating the oath they took to defend the Constitution against all enemies domestic and foreign. For that I blame them, not the voters.


36 posted on 02/04/2012 11:58:57 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Your UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE violates the US Constitution in numerous instances, such as this one. I personally piss on it as well as those who think it’s the law of the land.


37 posted on 02/04/2012 12:07:20 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: hoosiermama

Given Obama’s medicare . . . my monthly income . . .

$361.xx then less tithes and offerings.


38 posted on 02/04/2012 12:09:15 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: bkopto

They need to sue under the Equal Protection clause. Muslims are being exempted from this Obamacare business, and so should he rest of us.

Bigoted bastards.


39 posted on 02/04/2012 12:09:15 PM PST by Humble Servant
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To: bkopto

“But after he did, the Army’s Office of the Chief of Chaplains sent out another communication forbidding Catholic priests to read the letter, in part because it seemed to encourage civil disobedience, and could be read as seditious against the Commander-in-Chief.”

Legally, the Army’s Office of the Chief of Chaplains could not, without violating their rights, tell the Catholic chaplains that they could not READ the letter.

By trying to decide what they cannot read, the Chief of Chaplains exceeded his legal authority and attempted to control what they think and to prejudge what their behavior might be due to what he judged as wrong thinking.

He knows what all chaplains know. We may try to live by moral rules and we may seek for moral rules to decide our actions and behavior. We are also earthly bound to the rules of our secular authorities. We know there are consequences from both the moral authority, G-d, and the secular authority. When and if we cannot satisfy both, we know we will, in the end, satisfy one and accept the consequences from the other; asking for the mercy of both. Chaplains already understand this, as their daily lives as chaplains are filled with examples of it, for themselves and for all the men and women in the military they serve.

That is all he needed to remind the chaplains of. He is the one who presumed the response of the Catholic chaplains would be both political and contrary to the military rules of the chaplains, because HE apparently has his own, political, disagreement with what was said in the letter he did not want them to read.


40 posted on 02/04/2012 12:14:23 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Quix

Have found there are many ways to contribute with time rather than money....

$$$$$ is given way to much emphasis in my opinion.


41 posted on 02/04/2012 12:28:57 PM PST by hoosiermama (FR Unite... Get active contacting MSM, RNC. etc... freepmail : Mountain Mary.)
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To: bkopto

Jerry Pournelle had some interesting comments on this move by Obama concerning Catholic institutions:

“Some years ago the California legislature contemplated a law that would require any hospital that had a maternity ward to perform abortions on demand.

The elderly Mother Superior who ran St. Joseph’s hospital went to the legislature and said as follows:

I am as abbess of the order that owns this hospital a corporation sole, and I own this hospital. If you pass this law I will send all the patients to other hospitals, discharge the staff, cancel all the insurance policies, and order the demolition of all the buildings. Thank you.

Now she was very much of the Old School, and no one doubted she meant every word of it. The law never got to the floor of the assembly. I have no idea what President Obama thinks he is doing here, but I cannot see how this will help him be reelected.”

From here:
http://jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/?p=5308
towards the bottom.

Obama has tweaked the Catholics because he and his people think it great fun. I don’t think they understand what they have done to themselves. At least I hope I am right about this, not being a Catholic. But my take is that this may wake up a lot of always-voted-Dem old school Catholics.


42 posted on 02/04/2012 12:29:22 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Farmer Dean

“A whole bunch of people got suckered into voting for that Kenyan poser.Unless those same voters have been sleeping or in a coma for the last 3 years,they have no excuse this time around.”

He’s half-black, and that will trump everything for racists and the guilt-ridden.


43 posted on 02/04/2012 12:40:25 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Clock King
At some point, if this keeps up, we who side with freedom, liberty, God, and the Individual will HAVE to break the law, just as those who fought for civil rights in the past.

Well said and I agree completely. Please see my tag line. There are lots and lots of people who agree with us.

44 posted on 02/04/2012 12:43:44 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: MestaMachine
Does it seem to you as if WWII never ended? Because it sure is beginning to seem that way to me.

All the so-called "conspiracy theories" seem to be proving themselves plausible indeed. From the same link these eye-openers:

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According to Communist doctrine as well as to many forms of Socialist thinking, the state, the national state, is supposed to wither away. (isn't the destruction of the Constitution happening right now today?)

In January of 1989, for example, a delegation of the Trilateral Commission came to see Gorbachev. It included [former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro] Nakasone, [former French President Valéry] Giscard d’Estaing, [American banker David] Rockefeller and [former US Secretary of State Henry] Kissinger. They had a very nice conversation where they tried to explain to Gorbachev that Soviet Russia had to integrate into the financial institutions of the world, such as Gatt, the IMF and the World Bank. (tentacles of the rich and powerful showing total control of GATT, the IMF, World Bank and all things monetary)

In the middle of it Giscard d’Estaing suddenly takes the floor and says: “Mr President, I cannot tell you exactly when it will happen – probably within 15 years – but Europe is going to be a federal state and you have to prepare yourself for that.

You have to work out with us, and the European leaders, how you would react to that, how would you allow the other Easteuropean countries to interact with it or how to become a part of it, you have to be prepared.” (voila the disastrous "Euro")

45 posted on 02/04/2012 12:45:14 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: bkopto

http://www.armytimes.com/community/ask_lawyer/military_askthelawyer_070827w/

Interesting article.


46 posted on 02/04/2012 12:48:52 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is the reason why many qualified men never enter the U.S. military as Chaplains. The govenment controls what they can and can not say or how they can and can not minister.


47 posted on 02/04/2012 12:49:14 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: bkopto

“...seditious against the Commander-in-Chief..”

We could use more of that....


48 posted on 02/04/2012 12:50:47 PM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: bkopto
The Military Is Now Telling Catholic Chaplains What They Can And Can't Say About The Obama Administration

13 years and I have yet to hear a Chaplain say "Jesus" at an invocation. Just "god" whoever that may be.

It isn't just the 0 admin....this has been going on for quite some time.

49 posted on 02/04/2012 12:53:19 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: bkopto

The UCMJ (military law) doesn’t allow military officers to criticize the Commander-in-Chief. ...learned that when Clinton was in office. We enlisted types had the duty of doing all of the complaining about the Pres. back then. ;-)


50 posted on 02/04/2012 1:05:23 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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