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Pelosi: ‘I am going to stick with fellow Catholics’ in supporting Obama birth control mandate
Life Site News ^ | 2/6/2012 | Christine Dhanagom

Posted on 02/07/2012 5:10:33 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: MrB

Public excommunication has been the only thing that has ever worked with political figures. Pelosi is giving public scandal and she must be corrected publicly.

The same applies to Sibelius, who has been asked privately not to go to Communion...but obviously is not even slightly disturbed by this. Until her bishop publicly announces that she is not to be given Communion and is thus outside of the communion of the Church until she reconciles and accepts its authority over that of Caesar, she’ll continue to make a mockery of the whole thing by presenting herself as a Catholic.


41 posted on 02/07/2012 6:24:04 AM PST by livius
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42 posted on 02/07/2012 6:26:36 AM PST by narses
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To: livius

The biggest “slam” you can deliver to any liberal is a statement to the effect of

“you are NOT a ‘good person’ for these reasons”.

This is the end-all, be-all reason for being “liberal”,
self-righteousness.


43 posted on 02/07/2012 6:34:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: AustinBill

Yours is a very good Post. I believe you are right in saying the majority of lay Catholics feel as she does.They have strayed from the teachings of the Church.The Church has strayed from them. They have watched as the Prince’s of the Church have sucked up to the Kennedy’s, and to politicians like Pelosi for years.

Ted Kennedy also excommunicated himself with his abortion stand, IMO he got away with murder,but they buried him in a Catholic service with a Cardinal at the service. They will do the same for Pelosi.

If they do not publicly excommunicate Pelosi now they have given up all credibility


44 posted on 02/07/2012 6:34:41 AM PST by Venturer
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To: IbJensen

Is Pelosi evil?
Don’t know for sure but i’ll bet that when her feet hit the floor in the morning Satan shudders and says..”Oh s**t, she’s awake.”


45 posted on 02/07/2012 6:35:19 AM PST by CanadianYankee
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To: verga
Don't forget Mike Doyle (D, PA-14, Pittsburgh).

He's the one who convinced Stupak and his followers that Obamacare won't have abortion in it.

Excommunicate Doyle with the rest of them.

46 posted on 02/07/2012 6:36:59 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (Excommunicate evildoers)
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi is a CINO.


47 posted on 02/07/2012 6:39:45 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: livius
Naumann has gone public to some extent at least, per a Washington Post article of 2009:

In the interview, Naumann says that after months of a "long dialogue" with the governor, he wrote her a letter, warning her privately not to present herself for Communion. But, he said, a parish priest informed him that she had done so.

Naumann pulled out the hammer. He went public. He proclaimed that the Kansas governor should not "present herself" for Holy Communion until she changed her stance on abortion. He told the Kansas City Star that would involve a confession, a public apology and a promise to undo the damage done by her "scandalous behavior that has misled people into dangerous behavior."

I don't know whether she still presents herself as a Catholic . . .

48 posted on 02/07/2012 6:40:52 AM PST by maryz
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To: IbJensen

Amen, enough of this “she excommunicated herself” crap. It needs to be a public pronouncement and the price of her readmission is a public recantation of her heresy. Other punishment, such as wearing sack cloth and ashes or whipping, will be at discretion of local bishop.


49 posted on 02/07/2012 7:02:47 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: IbJensen

Why isn’t she very publicly excommunicated from the Church along with Sibelius, Sen. John Kerry and other “Catholics” in the Obama administration who support this tyranny? While they may have the right to hold their opinion, they should not be able to represent themselves as Catholics.


50 posted on 02/07/2012 7:03:59 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz
Obama is a textbook narcissist.

Symptoms Narcissistic Personality Disorder include, but are not limited to:

Reacts to criticism with anger, shame, or humiliation
May take advantage of others to reach his or her own goal
Tends to exaggerate their own importance, achievements, and talents
Imagines unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance
Requires constant attention and positive reinforcement from others
Easily becomes jealous
Lacks empathy and disregards the feelings of others
Obsessed with oneself

Mainly pursues selfish goals
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Is easily hurt and rejected
Sets unrealistic goals
Wants "the best" of everything
Appears as tough-minded or unemotional

51 posted on 02/07/2012 7:06:03 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: IbJensen

You are gong to burn in hell whore peloser.

LLS


52 posted on 02/07/2012 7:10:37 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: Liz


Obama is very, v-e-r-y disturbed.......he exhibited the depths of his psychoses with this move against Catholics.

Obama seems to have a deep-seated need to devalue others (and their dearly-held beliefs).......as a way to bring others down to his level.

Devaluing others shores up Obama’s pathetic lack of self-esteem.

I think it is more sinister than simply that, just as he and his coterie wish to destroy America with their 'policies'... what better way for the government to grab hold of 12-20% of the Hospital and care facilities in America than to force the Church to shut them down? He knows the Church will not and cannot back down on this issue.
53 posted on 02/07/2012 7:11:33 AM PST by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: maryz

That’s good, but it sure hasn’t gotten any publicity. Maybe he needs to make a formal statement rather than just telling the Kansas City Star.

Also, dissident clergy get around the no-Communion thing by simply saying they didn’t know that this person had been told not to come up for Communion. They know perfectly well, of course, but unless there’s a formal public statement, they can just smile like butter wouldn’t melt in their mouths and lie about it. .


54 posted on 02/07/2012 7:12:32 AM PST by livius
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To: IbJensen

Twist and turn and distort all they can is the strategy. The ignorant will eat up this soundbite because something easy, like free at will abortion is what they want. They will hear what they want to hear and the liars will make that easy for them.

“First of all, I am going to stick with my fellow Catholics in supporting the Administration on this. I think it was a very courageous decision that they made, and I support it,” the minority leader responded.

The comment came as at least 164 Catholic bishops across the country, representing over 90% of the country’s dioceses, have blasted the mandate, in many cases ensuring that letters were read to the faithful during Sunday Mass calling the mandate unconstitutional and unjust. “


55 posted on 02/07/2012 7:15:51 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: IbJensen

Dear Nancy, 70M Catholics may not agree with you.


56 posted on 02/07/2012 7:27:13 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: livius
Well, it's better than any of the other bishops has done, AFAIK. Granted, I'd rather see full, simultaneous formal excommunations, complete with bell, book and candle done across the US in every diocese saddled with one of these *%*@%s! But that may take time . . .
57 posted on 02/07/2012 7:41:36 AM PST by maryz
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To: IbJensen
Nancy, what about separation of Church and state?
58 posted on 02/07/2012 7:45:28 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: IbJensen

Nancy Pelosi is an alumna of the Institute of Notre Dame High School in Baltimore, an all-girl Catholic school. So is Barbara Mikulski. The two of them donated a rather large framed photo of themselves with Obama for the school to display. The sisters refused to put it up, due to the positions of the politicians on abortion.


59 posted on 02/07/2012 7:48:34 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: IbJensen
In an interview with the Washington Post this past November, she acknowledged that many Catholics object to being forced to fund abortions, noting that “they have this conscience thing.”

Yes that conscience thing. Why if I didn't have one, I could be just like Nancy (oh, I might need a frontal lobotomy too).

60 posted on 02/07/2012 7:50:56 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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