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Pelosi: ‘I am going to stick with fellow Catholics’ in supporting Obama birth control mandate
Life Site News ^ | 2/6/2012 | Christine Dhanagom

Posted on 02/07/2012 5:10:33 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: battousai

-—I think it is more sinister than simply that, just as he and his coterie wish to destroy America with their ‘policies’... what better way for the government to grab hold of 12-20% of the Hospital and care facilities in America than to force the Church to shut them down? He knows the Church will not and cannot back down on this issue.-—

I wish you were wrong, but I can’t interpret his actions any other way.

Besides confiscating a large chunk of private charity, he gets to seize the property of what he perceives to be an archaic and unenlightened institution.


61 posted on 02/07/2012 7:57:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Rummyfan

Nutsy reminds me of the ‘Portrait of Dorian Gray’ in that she’s as old as sourdough bread, but keeps herself looking like a giddy schoolgirl: thanks to the surgeon’s knife.

Wonder what she’d look like in the buff?

Brrrrr.


62 posted on 02/07/2012 7:58:11 AM PST by IbJensen (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: rarestia

Narcisist? Yes.

Sociopath? Yes.

Psycopath? Yes. He’s murdering America.


63 posted on 02/07/2012 7:59:51 AM PST by IbJensen (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: IbJensen

Yup. Just as because she is a Marxist/communist who daily defies the US Constitution, she should not be allowed any part in the governance of our nation.

She and her DC minions, starting with Obie, need to take up residence in a country whose political doctrine and goals more closely match their own - say...China, or better yet, North Korea.


64 posted on 02/07/2012 8:00:41 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: IbJensen

I’m near her age. Trust me...you don’t want to know! Ah, well - the young have the bods; we have the brains!


65 posted on 02/07/2012 8:06:23 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: maryz

Oh, it’s definitely more than the others have done! But it got almost no publicity, and I think until the bishops...as a group, perhaps...step forward and announce this policy and then individual bishops carry it out, it’s not going to have much impact on Catholic thinking. And the excommunications of these politicians who have attacked the Church have got to be announced publicly from the pulpit in their dioceses.

As it is now, it makes it seem as if the Church as a whole isn’t serious about this, and also makes it possible to depict actions such as Naumann’s as just the extreme actions of one cranky conservative bishop.

Of course, whether one could get the entire USCCB to go along with this is another matter...


66 posted on 02/07/2012 8:08:05 AM PST by livius
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To: The Great RJ

These mealy-mouthed, miserable excuses for human beings are Catholics wandering along a cafeteria line.

“I’ll only go along with what appeals to me.”

Of course that attitude is nurtured by the fact that the Catholic Church of today is a far cry from the Catholic Church of just over 50 years ago. Thanks to the popes since Pius XII a brand new religion was created.

Oh, there’s still confession (reconciliation), but the tabernacle has been moved ‘off stage’ to the men’s restroom, stautes have been removed, votive candles extinguished (wouldn’t want to start a fire) and when it comes time to distribute the Host, what passes for an altar becomes filled with laymen (sorry, laypersons) who distribute communion whilst the presider sits and watches.

We shake hands before leaving the disgrace referred to as the Novus Ordo mass as though saying goodbye to a lodge brother.

The sermons are watery and generic as the ‘priest’ wouldn’t want to offend anyone by talking about the wages of sin.

Everyone comes to communion like a flock of mindless sheep regardless of the fact that many haven’t been to confession in years and are committing sacrilege by holding out their sweaty palm to receive the Body of Christ.

Think about it and weep for what’s become of Jesus Christ’s Church left behind for Peter and his successors to tend.


67 posted on 02/07/2012 8:13:42 AM PST by IbJensen (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: yldstrk

Quoting an unknown FReeper:

“Abortion is human sacrifice to the god of convenience.”


68 posted on 02/07/2012 8:19:49 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: crosshairs

“Evil is taking over, but only temporarily.”

Quoting a FReeper on another thread last week: sneak a peek at the end of the Book...WE WIN!


69 posted on 02/07/2012 8:35:33 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: IbJensen

Irritated, Pelosi, a self-professed devout Catholic, interrupted: “Is this a speech, or do we have a question in disguise as a speech?”


Boy, they must hand out these ‘dodge tactics’ on a laminated sheet.


70 posted on 02/07/2012 9:09:16 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: rwilson99; IbJensen
She needs excommunication badly.

Or exorcism.

71 posted on 02/07/2012 9:12:29 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: livius
That’s good, but it sure hasn’t gotten any publicity.

It did but apparently you weren't paying attention.

Naumann Sebelius

72 posted on 02/07/2012 10:55:01 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: IbJensen

Is the Catholic church so afraid of losing membership that they are incapable of “pruning the branches”? Pelosi and others of her ilk should be excommunicated loudly and boldly! Drive Satan from the church!


73 posted on 02/07/2012 11:07:22 AM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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To: maryz
The phrase "bell, book, and candle" refers to a method of excommunication for one who had committed a particularly grievous sin. Apparently introduced around the late 9th century, the practice was once used by the Catholic Church; in modern times, a simple pronouncement is made. This ceremony involved a bishop, with 12 priests, reciting an oath on the altar:

We separate him, together with his accomplices and abettors, from the precious body and blood of the Lord and from the society of all Christians; we exclude him from our Holy Mother, the Church in Heaven, and on earth; we declare him excommunicate and anathema; we judge him damned, with the Devil and his angels and all the reprobate, to eternal fire until he shall recover himself from the toils of the devil and return to amendment and to penitence.

After reciting this the priests would respond "So be it!" The bishop would ring a bell to evoke a death toll, close a holy book to symbolize the ex-communicant's separation from the church, and snuff out a candle or candles, knocking them to the floor to represent the target's soul being extinguished and removed from the light of God.

I think we should return to this practice in the Church. We should hold mass "Bell, book and candle" ceremonies with all the CINOs in the congress.

That would be good.

74 posted on 02/07/2012 2:13:27 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: mc5cents

Yep! Prob’ly be good TV too — great visuals! ;-)


75 posted on 02/07/2012 2:40:15 PM PST by maryz
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To: IbJensen
Its easy to try to single out individuals, but remember it was Pope Paul VI who authored the encyclical Humanae Vitae which is surely one of the most prescient documents in Church history. The fact that the episcopate, especially in the U.S. and Europe, failed to embrace and support this encyclical dates the start of the slide into the current morass.

It's also fairly well believed that the real "Third Secret of Fatima" concerned the apostasy of the Church, which is why it could not be revealed. This is also fully in keeping with Pope Leo XIII's reported vision of 1884 about Satan entering the Church.

We do live in "interesting times".

76 posted on 02/07/2012 5:53:48 PM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi was misquoted on this piece. What she really said was that she was going to “stick it to” fellow Catholics.

-Theo


77 posted on 02/09/2012 5:24:12 PM PST by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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