Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

An Interesting Dick Morris Theory on Democrats and Contraception
Rushlimbaugh.com ^ | February 14, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/14/2012 1:33:58 PM PST by NYer

RUSH: I want to move on to this Dick Morris business and the attack on the Catholic Church last week by Obama. I want to ask you, if you remember back in January there was a presidential debate, a Republican debate in Manchester. Do you remember -- 'cause this is a setup for what's coming -- do you remember, we were all perplexed here. George Stephanopoulos kept hounding Romney on contraception. It had not come up, nobody had said anything about it, and we were all confused, as was Romney, what the deal was. Well, it is Dick Morris' theorem that that was a setup that led to what happened last week. Let's start with the audio sound bites of Morris himself last night on Hannity on the Fox News Channel. They were talking about the contraception mandate for religious affiliated businesses, and this is what Dick Morris said.

MORRIS: I think that the conservatives are missing the point about this. Obama did not make a mistake in this mandate. It's a deliberately calculated move on his part. The Democrats realized that abortion is no longer a winner for them. So what they're trying to do now is replace it with contraception. You remember that ABC debate with that paid Democratic hit man? George Stephanopoulos went after Romney trying to pin him down on contraception and Romney kept saying, "George, nobody wants to make contra- --" "No, but do they have the theoretical power to do it?" Remember, it was five minutes, people were laughing at him. Now he comes out with this thing on contraception. They want to create the idea, and it's no coincidence, that he came out with it after Minnesota and Colorado which were Santorum's victories. They want to create the impression that the Republicans will ban contraception.

RUSH: That's what Morris' theory is about what happened last week, trying to get abortion off the table because it's a loser for the Democrats. And now instead of Republicans want to ban abortion, they want to ban contraception. Well, let's go back and listen to what Dick Morris is talking about here. It was January 7th in Manchester, New Hampshire, at Saint Anselm College, and it was George Stephanopoulos from the Clinton campaign through the revolving door to the Clinton News Network, which is not CNN, it's ABC. Hell, it's all of them. It is at CNN 'cause you've got Carville and The Forehead over there and you've got Stephanopoulos over at ABC and we have learned now that Media Matters for America was writing the primetime scripts for MSNBC, which educated observers like me knew all long.

Yeah, Snerdley, I'm gonna talk about the Media Matters. I really think a lot of that's inside baseball. It's not news who Media Matters is. It's not news what they are. It's not news how they operate. It's not news that they're tied, linked at the hip with the White House or any other ranking Democrat. I know it's good work from The Daily Caller to document all of this, but it's not really news to people that pay attention. Anyway, we'll get to that in due course. Here is Romney answering Stephanopoulos' question. "Governor Romney, do you believe that states have the right to ban contraception, or is that trumped by a constitutional right to privacy?"

ROMNEY: George, this is an unusual topic that you're raising. States have right to ban contraception? I can't imagine a state banning contraception. I can't imagine the circumstances where a state would want to do so and if I were a governor of a state --

STEPHANOPOULOS: The Supreme Court had to rule on this back in 1965 because a state did.

ROMNEY: -- or a legislature of a state, I would totally and completely oppose any effort to ban contraception. So you're asking -- given the fact that there's no state that wants to do so, and I don't know of any candidate that wants to do so.

RUSH: So Stephanopoulos said, "I'm asking you, do you believe --" after Romney says he can't imagine a state wanting to ban contraception, Stephanopoulos says, "I'm asking you, do you believe that states have a right or not to ban contraception?"

ROMNEY: George, I don't know whether a state has a right to ban contraception. No states wants to. I mean, the idea of you putting forward things that states might want to do that no state wants to do, and asking me whether they could do it or not, is kind of a silly thing, I think. (applause)

RUSH: I remember this. This came out of nowhere, and it made no sense. Contraception had not come up in the debate. Contraception had not come up in the primaries. Contraception was not an issue at all. So Morris' theory is that Stephanopoulos is working with the White House. Well, okay, if you don't like that theory, Stephanopoulos came up with this on his own, and the White House, "Hey, you know what? We like what George is doing out there. That's a good idea. I think we'll give up on abortion and we'll move over to contraception as something the Republicans want get rid of." I don't think there's any question here, this came out of nowhere. It had no relevance whatsoever. It was thrown in there, and I remember the next day we spent a lot of time on this program laughing about this and trying to figure out what was this really all about?

So let's move on. We got another sound bite. This is from this morning on the network whose scripts are written by Media Matters, MSNBC. And this is the hostette Chris Jansing, and she's speaking with the president of NARAL Pro-Choice America. This is the feminazi gang, NARAL, the pro-abortion bunch. And the name is Nancy Keenan. And they got a new radio ad, talked about this yesterday, the NARAL radio ad thanking Obama for health care reform requiring companies to pay for contraception coverage for their employees. Chris Jansing says, "These ads, they're on the air in Denver, in Orlando, Madison, Wisconsin, Virginia, but are you worried that independent voters who supported the president in the past still aren't sure if they're crazy about this compromise?"

KEENAN: Look, the policy that the president put forth this last week is a good decision for women. And it means that millions of women, including nurses, janitorial staff, college professors will have access to birth control. So this is a win for women in this country and it's a win for the president because it's gonna draw the contrast between a president who stood with women and their access to contraception and birth control and those that oppose it and want to stand between a woman and her birth control. So absolutely for 2012, this is a president who stood with women.

RUSH: So, it appears Dick Morris is up to something. It appears that he's on to this. Out of the blue, this has now become something all about contraception. So what happened last week happens, the weekend goes by, the regime makes this big notion on Friday about accommodating and caving, and that's not at all what happened. And what's happened, really, is that the terms, the definition and the terms have changed. We're no longer talking about abortion. All of a sudden now it's Republicans who want to stamp out contraception, that's what the attempt last week was all about. Let's go back and listen to Morris again from Hannity last night describe this.

MORRIS: I think that the conservatives are missing the point about this. Obama did not make a mistake in this mandate. It's a deliberately calculated move on his part. The Democrats realized that abortion is no longer a winner for them. So what they're trying to do now is replace it with contraception. You remember that ABC debate with that paid Democratic hit man? George Stephanopoulos went after Romney trying to pin him down on contraception and Romney kept saying, "George, nobody wants to make contra- --" "No, but do they have the theoretical power to do it?" Remember, it was five minutes, people were laughing at him. Now he comes out with this thing on contraception. They want to create the idea, and it's no coincidence, that he came out with it after Minnesota and Colorado which were Santorum's victories. They want to create the impression that the Republicans will ban contraception.

RUSH: So that's the paradigm shift here, at least so goes the theory, and it does explain why Stephanopoulos was talking about something that was not even an issue. It's not an issue now. The Catholic Church doesn't even talk about banning contraception. Paul Rahe, I read his piece from Ricochet yesterday, makes the point he's been to Mass the last 13 years; three times in 13 years has it come up. The Catholic Church is not even trying to hold the line on contraception. Clearly the Republicans aren't. But what's happening is that the Democrats are trying to create out of nothing the fact that the Republicans want to ban contraception. That's why Stephanopoulos kept boring on the question. "I don't care, Governor Romney, could they, could the states if they want, could they?" Romney clearly, none of us knew what was going on, Romney said, "Nobody wants to, George." So they failed in getting their sound bite. If Romney had said, "Well, yeah, if the states wanted to."

"Nobody wants to, George, I mean you're putting forward things that states might want to do. No state wants to do. You're asking me whether they could do it or not is kind of a silly thing." If Romney had said, "Well, theoretically yeah, states could," that would have been the ad. They're working on this stuff. Well, you know that the networks are working with Obama. There's no line of separation or wall of separation between the news media and Obama. That's why I call 'em the State-Controlled Media.

RUSH: You know what's -- I don't know -- funny, curious about this is that Obama is the one who would ban contraception. Obama is the one who wants the power to do this. Obama is the one who thinks that he has the power to do it! Obamacare could ban contraception. Once Obamacare is implemented, the government can make any change unilaterally it wants. Because if it is implemented and if this mandate is found to be constitutional -- if the government can tell you that you've got to buy an insurance policy or you get find or you go to jail -- then they can tell you anything. They can ban contraception, they can ban abortion, they can do whatever they want to do.

They can charge whatever they want. They can require of us any behavior they demand, as long as they can link it to "health care," and the way the left has set things up, everything is related to health care. What you eat is related to health care. The way you drive and what you drive is related to health care. That's why this is so hideous. Republicans aren't the ones who want the power to do whatever they want. Republicans aren't the ones who want to go out and ban contraception. But it is fascinating now. There are stories... I checked here during the break. There are stories all over the news media talking about Santorum's "extreme views on contraception."

In fact, if you Google "Santorum and contraception" you get 159 million results. "Santorum and contraception" gets 159 million results. At CNN there's the headline: "Santorum's Stone Age View of Women." This is apparently confirming what Dick Morris' theory is. "Santorum's Stone Age View of Women." The news media is trying to claim that Santorum wants the states to ban contraception because at some point he was asked about it. Somewhere in his history, Santorum was asked if states could do that, and he said he thought states had the right, that it would not be unconstitutional. So he fell for it. Romney didn't in the debate, but they've been asking Santorum.

Now they've got it in the database that Santorum supports a state's right to ban contraception, and they're running with it, and the stories now are apparently everywhere. Look at this from ABC News: "Santorum Explains his 2006 Loss, Still Supports State Right to Outlaw Contraception." I will guarantee you that Rick Santorum doesn't spend a fleeting second thinking about this. Rick Santorum doesn't care a whit about this in the big scope of things! But they asked him the theoretical question just like they tried with Romney, and he said (summarized), "Well, yeah, a state could do that." He made the mistake of assuming that the media really wanted an honest answer to a question.

Be cooperative with the media. That's how you make them like you. It's just maddening here. "Santorum Explains his 2006 Loss, Still Supports State Right to Outlaw Contraception." Now, Santorum was just saying he thought states could have the right under the Constitution, not that he thought they should outlaw it. In Obamacare, it's not just Obama who has that power. The phrase "as the secretary will determine" or "shall determine," meaning the secretary of Health and Human Services is there. Obama is out there. What did he say? He was interviewed 60 Minutes somewhere. He was asked about his reelection: "What about all your supporters are unhappy that you didn't get as much done?" He said, "Well, I can't force Congress to do what I want. Until I can force Congress..."

Well, that's where he's headed, and that's what they're not hiding in the campaign. He's headed there: Being able to dictate what he wants to happen. Now, if you're thinking this contraception thing isn't gonna go anywhere and they can't possibly make anybody think that's the goal, don't be so hasty. Keep in mind who this is aimed at: People who still haven't stopped watching Whitney Houston coverage. (interruption) Well, you laugh, but I'm telling you they're there. They're either tuned in on the Internet or trying to find the E! entertainment channel. They have not stopped watching Whitney Houston coverage, and that happened when? That happened on Saturday. I was staying at a hotel two blocks from the Beverly Hilton.

I was leaving my hotel. I didn't know this at the time. I was leaving my hotel at the time that her body was discovered in the bathtub, or when they pronounced her dead at 3:55. That's when I was making tracks to get out of there. I just finished a round of golf. I'd played well, was feeling hunky-dory, looking forward to plane ride home. I'd been gone a week. I got on the airplane and I see the news that she died at the Beverly Hilton. I said, "Whoa, I was just right there! I was just two blocks away." I wasn't that far away from where Gisele Bundchen told reporters to go take a flying whatever. I mean, I've been in the thick of it here. But I'm just telling you that these people who are either still watching the Grammys or watching replays of the Grammys, that's who this kind of news is aimed at. Snerdley's laughing in there. You know I'm right. You know exactly what I mean by that.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: We have dug further. We've dug deeper into our audio sound bite roster and our archives. Let's go back and what we're doing is trying to button down this whole notion of Republicans wanting to ban contraception. It turns out that's Dick Morris' theory, he announced it last night on Hannity. In fact, let's start with that. If you're a welfare recipient just getting out of bed, if you're just joining us, if you missed the first hour, this is a good summation of what we're discussing to bring you up to speed. This is Dick Morris talking about what the White House was really attempting to do last week.

MORRIS: I think that the conservatives are missing the point about this. Obama did not make a mistake in this mandate. It's a deliberately calculated move on his part. The Democrats realized that abortion is no longer a winner for them. So what they're trying to do now is replace it with contraception. You remember that ABC debate with that paid Democratic hit man? George Stephanopoulos went after Romney trying to pin him down on contraception and Romney kept saying, "George, nobody wants to make contra- --" "No, but do they have the theoretical power to do it?" Remember, it was five minutes, people were laughing at him. Now he comes out with this thing on contraception. They want to create the idea -- and it's no coincidence that he came out with it after Minnesota and Colorado, which were Santorum's victories -- they want to create the impression that the Republicans will ban contraception.

RUSH: Yeah, his point is that last week, so-called mandate that the Catholic Church pay for abortion, pay for abortion-related activities and so forth, not the church, but Catholic schools and so forth, was really all about shifting the debate to contraception and that it came up after Santorum had a couple of primary victories. They're trying to take Santorum out, is what we need to say to make all this really have sense. The White House is trying to take Santorum out. So let's go back and listen now to the debate where this all came up and nobody knew why. It was January 7th in Manchester, New Hampshire. Stephanopoulos, no doubt a direct line to the Oval Office getting instructions, coordinating this, talking to Mitt Romney, question: "Do you believe the states have the right to ban contraception, or is that trumped by a constitutional right to privacy?" Out of nowhere this came up. Here's how it sounded.

ROMNEY: George, this is an unusual topic that you're raising. Do states have right to ban contraception? I can't imagine a state banning contraception. I can't imagine the circumstances where a state would want to do so and if I were a governor of a state --

STEPHANOPOULOS: The Supreme Court had to rule on this back in 1965 because a state did.

ROMNEY: -- or a legislature of a state, I would totally and completely oppose any effort to ban contraception. So you're asking -- given the fact that there's no state that wants to do so, and I don't know of any candidate that wants to do so.

RUSH: So Stephanopoulos said, "I'm asking you, do you believe that states have that right or not?"

ROMNEY: George, I don't know whether a state has a right to ban contraception. No states wants to. I mean, the idea of you putting forward things that states might want to do that no state wants to do, and asking me whether they could do it or not, is kind of a silly thing, I think. (applause)

RUSH: It was, it was totally silly. We laughed about it. What was this all about? Then yesterday the NARAL gang comes out and they have a radio ad running essentially thanking the president for making sure that the Republicans will not ban contraception. Out of nowhere. So then back on January 11th on the Colbert Report, the host, Stephen Colbert, had Stephanopoulos on. They were talking about the Republican debate that Stephanopoulos had moderated the Saturday night prior, and Colbert said, "Look, it's difficult to be a member of the press in front of a Republican audience. I mean I'll give you a specific example. You got into a section there, you asking questions about contraception. Romney basically saying you're a silly little child. The audience is going, 'We hate him, too.' What does it feel like at that moment?"

STEPHANOPOULOS: At that moment I am thinking, I really want to win this bet.

COLBERT: What was the bet?

STEPHANOPOULOS: Diane Sawyer bet me I couldn't get Mitt Romney to say, "Contraceptions [sic] are working just fine." (laughter)

COLBERT: Really?

STEPHANOPOULOS: I won. (laughter)

COLBERT: You got him to say contraceptions are working just fine?

STEPHANOPOULOS: Right.

COLBERT: Even though, from the number of children he has, he has no idea how they're working.

RUSH: All right, so he had a bet with Diane Sawyer, so he says on the Colbert show. (imitating Stephanopoulos) "Yeah, I had a bet that I could get Mitt Romney to say, 'Contraceptions are working just fine.'" So even this comedy show wanted to know why Stephanopoulos asked that question. And now how does that answer play now that we know what we know? "I was trying to get Romney to say contraceptions are working just fine." That's not what he was trying to get Romney to say. He was trying to get Romney to say that states could ban contraception. Now Santorum has done so. The news media is trying to claim Santorum wants the states to ban contraception because at some point he was asked if the states could do that, and he said he thought states had the right.

ABC News has a headline: "Santorum Explains ’06 Loss, Still Supports State Right to Outlaw Contraception." Still supports? So they're trying to take Santorum out. The White House, ABC, et al, are trying now to take Santorum out. As I say, if you Google Santorum and contraception you'll get 159 million hits. So the media has been out there pumping this news out that Santorum wants to ban contraception. Now, here's a Santorum quote about this. "The state has a right to do that, I have never questioned that the state has a right to do that. It is not a constitutional right, the state has the right to pass whatever statues they have. That is the thing I have said about the activism of the Supreme Court, they are creating rights, and they should be left up to the people to decide." That was back in January.

Another Santorum quote: "You shouldn’t create constitutional rights when states do dumb things. Let the people decide if the states are doing dumb things get rid of the legislature and replace them as opposed to creating constitutional laws that have consequences that were before them." Both of those quotes are from January 2nd of this year. Now, Dick Morris is a pollster, and I'm gonna have to throw in with him on this, 'cause being a pollster he probably knows most people today are pro-life. He probably knows that abortion's a losing issue for the Democrats. They can't make hay out of it. Most of what they stand for is a losing issue, but contraception is a far different thing. If you can convince the dolts in this country, and you know who I'm talking about. Snerdley thinks I'm gonna get in trouble by trying to categorize these people still watching coverage of the Whitney Houston story.

You know who I mean. I'm talking about people that are brain-dead. People that don't even know how many states there are, outside of Obama, people that couldn't care less. People that are out there screwing left and right, when they hear the Republicans want to ban contraception, what are they gonna do? That's the focus of the regime. Obama is running to be reelected by the dumbest among us. That's who he's aiming at here. That's how he looks at the 99%. The dumbest, the most uninformed, and that's why he's perfectly willing to campaign on a socialist agenda. What's a socialist agenda? "It's what I'm gonna give you. It's what you deserve as an American. It's all this class envy stuff wrapped up into one little bundle. The rich have taken everything that's rightfully yours. I'm the guy that's gonna take it from the rich and give it back to you. And it's yours just because you're an American. You were born here."

So the Obama Zombies, that's who he's campaigning for. He is openly campaigning as a redistributionist, as a socialist and his objective are the dumb masses. There's no question. I was mentioning earlier today, and I've been noticing it, that the Democrats are not going to near the efforts they've gone to in the past to mask themselves. In the past they've always had to mask their liberalism. They've had to cover up who they are. They have to make themselves sound like they care, for example, about values. Now that's all out the window, other than this payroll tax cut which Obama wants to own as a tax cutter. And that's a sitting duck issue for the Republicans.

He's gutting the Social Security funding mechanism, and I don't know why they don't say it. Because for all of these years (all of my adult years, every election) I've had to hear how, as a Republican, I want to take Social Security away from seniors. And I and others want to kick them out of their homes and deny them their medicine. That's what the Democrats have said! Now it's Obama doing it! Obama is short-changing the Social Security funding mechanism by $105 billion a year every time he extends this payroll tax cut, and nobody's replacing it. You Social Security recipients had better understand that Obama is taking a minimum of $105 billion out of that fund every year.

And it's not being replaced because this payroll tax cut is, quote, unquote, "not being paid for," despite the Democrats paygo rules. The Republicans were holding out for that. "If you're gonna take it out, you better put something back in." That's what they caved on. They thought they were reaching across the aisle. They thought they were compromising. They thought they were helping and pleasing the independents. They thought they were doing what everybody wants Republicans to do: Shut up and go along to get along. So they did that and now they're being ripped to shreds as either having retreated or having caved or what have you.

Now, since we're talking about this... Since it is Obama who has demonstrated he wants and thinks he has the autocratic power to dictate who shall buy insurance, what that insurance will cover, and how much it'll cost... That's what last week was about. When he said that the Catholic schools have to provide it, they reacted in an uproar, "Well, we have a moral conscious. We can't do that!" Obama said, "Okay, fine. I'll accommodate you. I'll make the insurance companies pay for it." And everybody said, "Big win! We forced Obama to walk it back." No, you didn't. Obama still got away with telling the insurance companies how to run their business, what they must offer, how much they have to charge for it (in this case nothing).

So what if one day Obama decides that American families can only be allowed to have two kids? What's to stop him? Obama will give him the authority to do so, or any other Democrat president. Or any president, for that matter! Once this thing is implemented, if it relates to health care in any way, shape, manner, or form -- and of course the number of kids that people have, equating a population perhaps growing more than we can handle? Then you have this story here in North Carolina where (snorts) a preschooler ate three chicken nuggets for lunch on January 30th because the state employee told her the lunch that her mother had packed was not nutritious. Her mother had packed a turkey-and-cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, apple juice. The "agent" in the school inspecting all the lunch boxes said: Sorry, it doesn't meet USDA requirements. And they gave her three chicken McNuggets. I think the people in Port St. Lucie ought to love this, a school giving away chicken nuggets. When they walk into a McDonald's in Port St. Lucie and they don't have any chicken nuggets, they call 911 and they ask to speak to Obama. That's who I'm talking. That's who still watching Whitney Houston's story coverage. That's exactly who I'm talking about.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: So I got this snarky e-mail in the Rush 24/7 subscriber account. "Okay, Mr. Smarty Pants. If you say that they're trying to take Santorum out with this contraception business, then why did they try to take Romney out with the same question?" They're trying to take 'em both out! They want to beat the Republicans. The reason they're trying to take Santorum out is that they would rather run against Romney. That's my theory. You can disagree with me all you want on that, but I think that's the objective. Now, here we go. You know, we subscribe here to all the Democrat stuff. We subscribe to the SEIU website and the Democrat National Committee. We go on to the... Well, I'm not gonna give away the names, but we use the stupidest names, and they don't care.

We never send them money but we're on the mailing list. Like we got one here today from the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, Patty Murray, Senator from Washington. This is the group that tries to elect as many Democrats to the Senate as possible, and it's addressed to our fake name here. "I can hardly believe this," writes Senator Murray. "Republican Senators are pushing legislation that will allow any employer to deny women coverage for birth control." This is dated today at 9:30 this morning, right here on schedule. The Democrat Senatorial Committee is sending out a fundraising letter to people who have donated before or to members telling them that the Republicans want to make contraception illegal!

And this all started with a George Stephanopoulos question on January 7th in a Republican debate, a question he asked Mitt Romney. Then last week, here we go with Obama demanding that Catholic schools and other Catholic organizations pay for health benefits that include abortion and contraception and RU-486 and all that. Everybody has an uproar, "You can't make the Catholic Church do that! Da-da-da, separation of church and state!" Obama says, "Okay, okay. I'll make an accommodation here. I'll make the insurance companies do it!" So at the end of the day, Obama still dictates (and that's the word) what insurance companies must cover, what they must make available, what you must buy, and how much the insurance companies charge.

In this case zero. It's a freebie.

And they're locked down on it and they're not changing. And so now in just two days -- two workdays, since Friday -- the whole thing has shifted to "Republicans want to stamp out, wipe out contraception!" It's what it's all been about. And the Democrats are now fundraising at the Senatorial Campaign Committee. "One Million Strong for Women fight back against the right-wing attacks on women's health. Stand strong for women. Sign petition. Add your name to One Million Strong for Women and help fight back against the War on Women. This ridiculous Republican legislation will probably come up for a vote this week. I need your help. Will you fight back by joining the One Million Strong for Women campaign?

"Republican senators are pushing legislation that will allow any employer to deny women coverage for birth control. You read that right. Birth control! What's wrong with these people? "More than 98% of American women use or have used contraception." This has been in the works for how many months, and they triggered it on January 7th. Now they're fundraising off of it. Meanwhile, there isn't one Republican anywhere who wants to ban contraception. And you're thinking, "Well, don't worry, Rush. People aren't gonna fall for that." The people that don't know diddly-squat about what's going on? These people out there, you know, behaving like minks?

These people who behave like minks while watching Whitney Houston coverage, while reading whatever trash tabloids they read, will hear this. They'll probably put a face to it like Orrin Hatch, probably pick some old senator. "He wants to ban contraception! He wants you to get pregnant, and then he wants abortion illegal!" You can see where this is headed. And then these dumb masses get angry and outraged and say, "I'm not gonna allow this," and they go vote for Obama. Meanwhile, while all this is going on, Barack Obama's destroying country. He's destroying the finances of this country. He's breaking this country. We are in debt; he has proposed more. He has not balanced anything, although he says he has. He has not reduced spending, although he says he has. He is spending like we've never spent before, on purpose.

Right in front of our faces, the transformation is going on, and the objective here is to get everybody thinking the Republicans want to ban birth control pills. And you think it won't work? There are enough idiots out there -- like the caller said, "single-issue people" -- who just want to continue screwing without consequences. And if they think the Republicans are gonna bring consequences to it, they'll vote against 'em and no matter what else is happening. You know it and I know it. "Okay, Mr. Limbaugh, then how would you suggest that this be fought?" Stick with me on this. It's only February. This is still the United States of America, and we are not ruled yet by the dumb masses. I am sure. We're not ruled by 'em yet. We need a morning-after pill for presidential elections.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; abortion; alinskytactics; bhocorruption; bhofascism; catholic; contraception; corruption; democratmedia; democrats; dickmorris; dnc; elections; enemedia; fascistmedia; liberalfascism; liberalmedia; liberals; limbaugh; medaimatters; moralabsolutes; morris; nobama2012; obama; obamacare; obamamandate; prolife; romney; rush; rushlimbaugh; santorum; socialistdemocrats; stephanopoulos
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-53 next last

1 posted on 02/14/2012 1:34:05 PM PST by NYer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Yeah, his point is that last week, so-called mandate that the Catholic Church pay for abortion, pay for abortion-related activities and so forth, not the church, but Catholic schools and so forth, was really all about shifting the debate to contraception and that it came up after Santorum had a couple of primary victories. They're trying to take Santorum out, is what we need to say to make all this really have sense.

Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


2 posted on 02/14/2012 1:35:30 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Rush didn’t much play up the other part of Dick Moriss’ quote... wherein he called Georgie Snuffleupagus a paid-for Democrat hack...


3 posted on 02/14/2012 1:37:55 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
Right in front of our faces, the transformation is going on, and the objective here is to get everybody thinking the Republicans want to ban birth control pills.
4 posted on 02/14/2012 1:38:10 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Keith in Iowa

ooops... hitman not hack...


5 posted on 02/14/2012 1:39:03 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NYer
I posted this yesterday.

ya know...we are missin sumpthin..... you do not do that this close to election....

I think it's preemptive. He's laying the foundation now so that he can refer back to it during the general election. Here's how.

If Santorum is the candidate, he has a direct weapon to use against him, using Santorum's position as the most religious of the candidates against him. Even if Santorum has not made this an issue, Obama will in order to put Santorum on the defensive and throw him off-message.

If Romney is the candidate, Obama will use RomneyCare to twist Romney into a pretzel because of this. Stephanopoulis was the first fein; Romney, to his credit, wisely deflected this. Also, Romney's Mormon background, and Mormons' traditionally large families, can also be fodder for demagoguery.

If Gingrich is the candidate, Obama will use Gingrich's voter gap with women as a wedge to demonize him.

As Sun-Tzu said, lead the enemy to grounds favorable to you, and then wage the battle there. That's why this is an issue now.

-PJ
6 posted on 02/14/2012 1:40:24 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

This is retarded.

The law does not apply just to Catholics. It applies to all except Muzzies. (Their “charity” does have a religious purpose, making them exempt)

You have divided us on this issue now. Since I am not a Catholic this “attack on the Catholic Church” must not concern me. Apparently the mandate applies to everyone but Muzzies though.

Somewhere along the way someone got confused.


7 posted on 02/14/2012 1:41:45 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

When you look at this from the Cosmic Battle standpoint,

that of

The Truth vs Lies

you’ll see that with every value that God has, you can take the exact inverse of it, and get a value that the world has.

In this case,
“children are a gift from God, they are his reward”
vs
“I don’t want them to be punished with a baby”


8 posted on 02/14/2012 1:44:04 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

It’s not just contraception. They frame every spending issue the same.

If you don’t pay for a woman’s birth control pills that is EXACTLY the same as taking them away from her.

If you don’t pay for every school child’s lunch that is EXACTLY the same as taking food out of their mouths.

If you don’t bail out GM that is EXACTLY the same as forcing thousands into the poor house.

The trap has been sprung. We can’t cut government spending because that is EXACTLY the same as killing people.


9 posted on 02/14/2012 1:47:44 PM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

It’s not just contraception. They frame every spending issue the same.

If you don’t pay for a woman’s birth control pills that is EXACTLY the same as taking them away from her.

If you don’t pay for every school child’s lunch that is EXACTLY the same as taking food out of their mouths.

If you don’t bail out GM that is EXACTLY the same as forcing thousands into the poor house.

The trap has been sprung. We can’t cut government spending because that is EXACTLY the same as killing people.


10 posted on 02/14/2012 1:47:57 PM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

It’s a total diversion as to what’s really going on in our country. We need to get rid of these people. Be it Romney, Santorum or Gingrich.


11 posted on 02/14/2012 1:52:57 PM PST by RC2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: DManA
f you don’t pay for a woman’s birth control pills that is EXACTLY the same as taking them away from her.

Rush raised a very interesting question: "why free birth control?" Why not free toothpaste or mouthwash? Why birth control? What happens if a woman does not take her birth control? She risks pregnancy. Think about that and the resulting ramifications.

12 posted on 02/14/2012 1:54:07 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Political Junkie Too
There is another thing - if you remember, they asked questions at that Stephanopolus debate about Terri Schiavo.

Remember that Santorum was involved in the effort to have Terri given over to her family who loved her, rather than her husband, who I think killed her.

But that's not the way they will portray it. They will portray it as a right-to-die issue.

They will try to make Santorum look like an "extremist" who is against a person's right to die.

They will try to paste the "extremist" label on Santorum, against Birth Control, against, "right-to-die, etc..

Democrats will do this. Romney will do this. So will Ann Coulter.

13 posted on 02/14/2012 1:56:40 PM PST by eCSMaster (Excommunicate evildoers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Rush hit this one out of the park today. I hope somebody at the RNC listens occasionally.


14 posted on 02/14/2012 1:59:15 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: NYer

The Democrat media is trivializing itself.


15 posted on 02/14/2012 2:01:32 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nascarnation

“Rush hit this one out of the park today. I hope somebody at the RNC listens occasionally.”
_______________

You’re missing the point; the RNC will be perfectly happy to have Santorum trashed over a non-issue; as they were w/Newt. As long as something helps Romney that’s all they care about.


16 posted on 02/14/2012 2:03:51 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: NYer
From another web site:

Morris claimed that the George Stephanopoulos question in that January GOP primary debate of Mitt Romney was deliberately planted as a favor to the Obama campaign. Recall he asked, “Do states have the right to ban contraception – or is that trumped by a constitutional right to privacy?” Romney was baffled. He asked Stephanopoulos why he would even ask. No state was contemplating such a ban. He said, “George, that’s a silly question!”

Then recall the back story of this ruling to require health insurance policies to cover contraceptives: it’s been under consideration since at least last summer by HHS. There have been meetings with Catholic bishops, feminists, etc.

There was no reason for the HHS to make this ruling at this particular time. They could have waited. So this supports Morris’s idea that it was a deliberate campaign tactic. It would get the R candidates off the economy and off Obama’s record, which both are likely to be losers for Obama. Social issues are also tricky, unless you can find one that are popular with most voters.

They hoped that the media would help them paint the R candidates, think Rick Santorum, a devout Catholic, also Newt Gingrich has converted to Catholicism, as blocking women getting contraceptives paid for by their insurance policies.

17 posted on 02/14/2012 2:06:53 PM PST by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
RUSH: I want to move on to this Dick Morris business and the attack on the Catholic Church last week by Obama. I want to ask you, if you remember back in January there was a presidential debate, a Republican debate in Manchester. Do you remember -- 'cause this is a setup for what's coming -- do you remember, we were all perplexed here. George Stephanopoulos kept hounding Romney on contraception. It had not come up, nobody had said anything about it, and we were all confused, as was Romney, what the deal was. Well, it is Dick Morris' theorem that that was a setup that led to what happened last week. Let's start with the audio sound bites of Morris himself last night on Hannity on the Fox News Channel. They were talking about the contraception mandate for religious affiliated businesses, and this is what Dick Morris said.

I told my wife this very thing last night.

18 posted on 02/14/2012 2:07:57 PM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Yes, it applies to all but only Catholics now take a principled stand against contraception. So you and others think, if the law is framed in terms of “contraception,” that it doesn’t apply to them. I pointed this out when this first surfaced two weeks ago on an FR thread.

They want to divide non-Catholic opponents of abortion from Catholic opponents of abortion. Their method is to call most abortions “contraception” (using the theory that until implantation it’s not an abortion because there’s no pregnancy; pregnancy only begins with implantation. Abortion terminates pregnancy only, so anything before implatation is contraception.

That’s how they can with a straight face say that requiring the Ella pill (chemical abortifacient similar to RU-486) is merely “contraception” and thus required to be provided free of charge.

They kill two birds with one stone, since so many Catholics have long defied the Church on contraception. So unthinking Catholics think these regs only require contraception and the bishops are overreacting (Commonweal editors said as much), when in fact the regs require abortion.

They want to split the Church and create a Patriotic American Catholic pro-contraception but anti-abortion church and leave the old stick-in-the-mud “extremist” bishops and their “pathetic, bedraggled followers” in the dust.

They want to create a “German-Christians Catholic Church” led by Sister Keehan and their ilk (nun in charge of Catholic Hospital Association who said the “accommodation” was acceptable) that will back the government on abortion (contraception) as “caring for women’s health”; next will be euthanasia, gay rights etc.

It also prepares the way to portray Santorum as a Taliban-extremist Catholic unlike those other “reasonable Commonweal Catholics.”

Moreover, it’s not being reported, but the USCCB website today points out that the “accommodation” that was hyped so much Friday was quietly dropped later Friday night. The regs that actually are in force are the original regs, not the so-called “accommodated” regs. Obama is a total, brazen Liar, spawn of the Father of Lies.

The whole “accommodation” was a total head feint. And the MSM ignores the fraud.


19 posted on 02/14/2012 2:08:57 PM PST by Houghton M.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: eCSMaster
re "Terri Schiavo"

You make a very good point and even Mike Savage is calling Santorum "sanctimonious".

But here's the thing; Santorum believes what he believes not because its good positioning but rather because he believes it to be true.

And I think because of that he can answer these attacks honestly and effectively.

His answer on women in combat is a case in point. They tried to blind side him w/ that and his answer was not rehearsed in any way but reflected a core understanding of the differences between men and women.

Naturally it pissed off the feminists, but then what doesn't.

20 posted on 02/14/2012 2:12:11 PM PST by Pietro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: NYer

The Republican candidates SHOULD HAVE NOT allowed the liberal journalists to lead the dance and ask the questions in the debates.

They are all s snakes enslaved to their pipe-player, Hussein 0.


21 posted on 02/14/2012 2:12:47 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: nascarnation

So, what was your take on his take on why “contraception” is such an important issue to the left?

I didn’t quite get the essence of his point. He kept asking and saying “no” to the answers he was given.

I gave my take above on why this is so important to them - because the “guy” they work for hates people, especially children. Children are a gift from God, they are His reward. Obama, doing the bidding of his “father”, refers to them as a punishment.


22 posted on 02/14/2012 2:13:11 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Yes, Dick Morris is right on this contraception issue, but he doesn’t go far enough. There is a second reason for this particular tack in the Obama war on the Catholic Church. Many people may have not even noticed if Gay marriage is not the focus of their state Democrat Party this year.

In WA State, the Gay Marriage law that was signed into law by Governor Gregoire, today, includes the stipulation that all churches where marriages take place must allow Gays to be married in their facilities if they allow other non-members to use the facilities by paying a fee.

I don’t know how the law would apply to Gays if they are members of the church. My guess is that the Church would be forced to allow them to be married in the church.

Anyway, my guess is that the Obama administration is using contraception as a wedge issue, so they can say, see how wrong the Catholics were about contraception and we fixed that, we will fix the Catholic (and other churches) treatment of Gay marriage, as well.


23 posted on 02/14/2012 2:15:34 PM PST by Eva
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Houghton M.

“only Catholics take a ..”

blaah bah blah

Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy included I guess

Talk about conceited and delusional


24 posted on 02/14/2012 2:16:10 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Eva

Not just Catholics, my dear.

This president is not only the most anti-life president of my lifetime, he’s also the most anti-Christian.


25 posted on 02/14/2012 2:21:08 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: nascarnation

“I hope somebody at the RNC listens occasionally.”

The RNC had better get ahead of this conspiracy(Rush called it a conspriracy, surprisingly.) If they don’t, I predict that the ‘rat campaign ads using this trumped up issue will be comparable to and as devastating as the ‘64 LBJ ad with the little girl picking daisies/nuclear holocaust ad LBJ used against Barry Goldwater.


26 posted on 02/14/2012 2:23:39 PM PST by izzatzo (All in for Newt.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Pietro
He can answer attacks that come from Democrats or the media (same thing).

I'm concerned about attacks that come from Romney.

If a "fellow Republican" calls Rick "extreme," the Dems (and the media) will have a field day.

27 posted on 02/14/2012 2:24:12 PM PST by eCSMaster (Excommunicate evildoers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: MrB

There are lots of women who are pro-contraception and anti-abortion.

This is an attempt by the Baraqqi regime to scare them into voting Democrat.


28 posted on 02/14/2012 2:29:16 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: MrB

Yes, but the Catholic Church is the largest and most organized and conveniently opposes contraception, if only in theory.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the fight over contraception wasn’t the brain child of Obama’s nun, Carol Keehan.


29 posted on 02/14/2012 2:37:21 PM PST by Eva
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: GeronL
Somewhere along the way someone got confused.

Do you know who it was?

30 posted on 02/14/2012 2:52:31 PM PST by itsahoot (I will Vote for Palin, even if I have to write her in.(Recycled Tagline))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: itsahoot

Since it only affects Catholics, I guess I won’t worry about it anymore.


31 posted on 02/14/2012 2:58:05 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Never, never underestimate the enemy.


32 posted on 02/14/2012 2:59:57 PM PST by Chainmail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

In 2004, the meme was that Bush was going to bring back the draft.

That was what Viacom-MTV put out hourly as “breaking news” on television to scare young voters. The only bills to bring back the draft were authored by Democrats.

The Rat party is crooked. Young voters need to learn this before they throw away their votes.


33 posted on 02/14/2012 3:03:32 PM PST by a fool in paradise (If Obama brings troops home from Japan and Germany he can claim he won WWII finally as well as Iraq.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrB

If the President can make us pay for it, he can make us use it. If he has the power to make us pay for it and use it, then why can’t someone be for banning it? There are 2 sides to all issues aren’t there Steffi boy?


34 posted on 02/14/2012 3:03:43 PM PST by taterjay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Longshanks: The trouble with Scotland America is that it's full of Scots Americans.

What can you say about the future of nations that don't want children?

Vladimir Putin ridiculed after demanding Russians have more sex to halt declining population

The Russian Prime Minister, who is now seeking his third presidential term in the March election, declared: 'We are facing the risk of turning into an ‘empty space’ whose fate will not be decided by us.'

35 posted on 02/14/2012 3:10:28 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

if he gets to debate Obama I sincerely hope Rick Santorum looks him in the eye and says “I gladly would have voted to provide free birth control for your mother”.


36 posted on 02/14/2012 3:22:37 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL
Since it only affects Catholics, I guess I won’t worry about it anymore.

If you are serious, I wonder what you are doing on this forum? Clearly you are to uninformed to be part of this group.

37 posted on 02/14/2012 4:09:29 PM PST by itsahoot (I will Vote for Palin, even if I have to write her in.(Recycled Tagline))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: NYer

There may indeed be *something* with this analysis....but I cannot get the following out of my mind recently:

David v Goliath


38 posted on 02/14/2012 4:24:36 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

“Since it only affects Catholics,...”

You are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong. It is a direct attack on the free exercise of religion. PERIOD.

And that affects everyone.


39 posted on 02/14/2012 4:27:07 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Eva

It is NOT a *contraception* issue....nor a gay *rights* issue.

It’s a pure and simple attack on freedom of religion the the free exercise of religion. THAT is their target. PERIOD!


40 posted on 02/14/2012 4:32:26 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I think this entire episode may be very useful for some of us to shine the light on media malfeasance.


41 posted on 02/14/2012 4:35:47 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL; Houghton M.
Geron, "All" self-publicizing Catholics don't believe in Catholicism. Everybody knows that.

There are plenty of people who are comprehensively opposed to Catholic faith and morals, who will still call themselves Catholic for the rhetorical torque and political leverage it gives them.

But Houghtom M's point is that only the Catholic Church opposes contraceptive acts per se --- and by the way, that means that only the Catholic Church upholds the historic Christian sexual morality which ALL Christians upheld until 1930. That was when, starting with the Anglicans, Christian groups started to weaken and then give way and conform to a de-Christianized contraceptive culture, calling acceptable what 1900 years of Chriestianity had always called unacceptable.

Pelosi, Kennedy, Sebelius. In what sense do they represent Catholicism?

They are to Catholicism as antimatter is to matter.

42 posted on 02/14/2012 4:36:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The exceedingly foul deed of Onan...he spills the semen, lest the woman conceive." ---Martin Luther)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Eva

It is NOT a *contraception* issue....nor a gay *rights* issue.

It’s a pure and simple attack on freedom of religion... the the free exercise of religion. THAT is their target. PERIOD!

It is the tyranny of relativism. The goal is to FORCE the notion that there are NO absolute moral virtues!!!!

It is evil at its core. It’s the same totalitarian notion dressed up in slightly different clothes for this time-period of history...as has occurred in previous historical periods. Do NOT be fooled.


43 posted on 02/14/2012 4:37:10 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o; GeronL; Houghton M.

Pelosi, Kennedy, Sebelius. In what sense do they represent Catholicism?

They are to Catholicism as antimatter is to matter.

___________________________________________

Excellent analogy!


44 posted on 02/14/2012 4:39:53 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Eva

“...and conveniently opposes contraception, if only in theory.”

What do you mean by:

1. *conveniently*
2. *contraception*
3. *only in theory*


45 posted on 02/14/2012 4:44:50 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: itsahoot

Maybe its because every post and article says it’s “O’s attack on the Catholic Church” when the facts seem to suggest it is an attack on the freedom of religion of everyone.

Maybe the ones who say its just an attack on one denomination should be faulted for dividing what is supposed to be a united opposition to this atrocious diktat?


46 posted on 02/14/2012 4:48:42 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: SumProVita

That was my point, it is a freedom of religion issue, but Obama picked the one issue on which most Catholics don’t obey the church, to challenge the Church’s position.

Like I said, Obama picked contraception as a wedge issue to challenge other edicts of the church and discredit the church, as he trampled the freedom of religion.

Next is Gay Marriage.


47 posted on 02/14/2012 4:58:31 PM PST by Eva
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Maybe. But this is just the latest step takened by the two fanatics. Of course, this is a nod to the emergence of Santorum, but their target is the Catholic Church. Not either/or here but both and.


48 posted on 02/14/2012 7:41:57 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

Which made the Kennedy funeral such a mockery. Like a requium mass for a Mafia boss.


49 posted on 02/14/2012 7:46:19 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: RobbyS

Exactly -— and I posted exactly that comment on Cardinal Sean’s blog page. In fact, it was a requiem that smelled and looked like a canonization. And O’Malley seemed blindsided, surprised that anybody had a problem with that.


50 posted on 02/15/2012 3:12:17 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The exceedingly foul deed of Onan...he spills the semen, lest the woman conceive." ---Martin Luther)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-53 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson