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Colorado student quits high school choir over Islamic song praising 'Allah'
Fox News ^ | February 15, 2012 | Fox News

Posted on 02/15/2012 3:37:42 PM PST by beaversmom

A Colorado high school student quit the school choir after an Islamic song containing the lyric "there is no other truth except Allah" made it into the repertoire.

James Harper, a senior at Grand Junction High School in Grand Junction, put his objection to singing "Zikr," a song written by Indian composer A.R. Rahman, in an email to Mesa County School District 51 officials. When the school stood by choir director Marcia Wieland's selection, Harper quit.

"I don’t want to come across as a bigot or a racist, but I really don’t feel it is appropriate for students in a public high school to be singing an Islamic worship song,” Harper told KREX-TV. "This is worshipping another God, and even worshipping another prophet ... I think there would be a lot of outrage if we made a Muslim choir say Jesus Christ is the only truth."

But district spokesman Jeff Kirtland defended the decision to include the song.

"Choral music is often devoted to religious themes. ... This is not a case where the school is endorsing or promoting any particular religion or other non-educational agenda. The song was chosen because its rhythms and other qualities would provide an opportunity to exhibit the musical talent and skills of the group in competition, not because of its religious message or lyrics," Kirtland told FoxNews.com in an email while noting that the choir "is a voluntary, after-school activity."

"Students are not required to participate, and receive no academic credit for doing so," he said.

At an upcoming concert, the choir is scheduled to sing an Irish folk song and an Christian song titled "Prayer of the Children," in addition to the song by Rahman.

"The teacher consulted with students and asked each of them to review an online performance of the...

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1 posted on 02/15/2012 3:37:48 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

I personally would go ahead and sing the song but with substantially altered lyrics when we got to the allah part.


2 posted on 02/15/2012 3:41:30 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: beaversmom

ISLAM isn’t a race. I believe that those that subscribe to that religion are human. So - how can he be a racist...unless Moslems come from another planet???

Good for him - the incursion of Islam must be pointed out. I wonder how many other foreign music compositions they performed before this one???


3 posted on 02/15/2012 3:41:37 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: beaversmom
Choral music is often devoted to religious themes

Except at Christmas time! What BS!

I wonder where the school fathers discovered this "Islamic Music."

ML/NJ

4 posted on 02/15/2012 3:43:28 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: steve86

Good point. Maybe that part could be left out unless it’s throughout the piece.


5 posted on 02/15/2012 3:46:18 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

You took my kisses and you took my love,
(snapping fingers)
You taught me how to care;
Am I to be just the remnant of a one-sided love affair?
Allah you took, I gladly gave,
There’s nothing left for me to save.

Allah me, why not take Allah me,
(Yeah Baby)
Can’t you see, I’m no good without you.
Take my lips I want to lose them,
Take my arms I’ll never use them,
Your good bye left me with eyes that cry,
How can I go on dear without you.

(Go Daddy-O)

You took the part that once was my heart,
So why not take Allah me.

Doo be doo be do
Scooby dooby do
To or not to be
(Big Finish)
Allahu ... Foo Barrrrrrr


6 posted on 02/15/2012 3:46:31 PM PST by tumblindice (Whitey-American: Taxed Enough Already)
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7 posted on 02/15/2012 3:47:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: tumblindice
Take my arms I’ll never use them

You left out the take mylegs part:

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8 posted on 02/15/2012 3:49:21 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Oh, I was thinking of substituting something rude but didn’t want to put that in your thread.


9 posted on 02/15/2012 3:55:52 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: steve86

Ha, ha. Well if they sing it in a weird way or backward no one would notice.


10 posted on 02/15/2012 3:57:30 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

11 posted on 02/15/2012 3:58:43 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: beaversmom

I heard it first here! And we live fifteen min.from G.J.High.
I intend to send letters out.This High school has a pretty good school newspaper-seems college level on some of their stuff. But I agree with the student.I can’t imagine any public school in America endorsing/promoting Islam as would be the case if/when this song is required for presentation.


12 posted on 02/15/2012 3:59:14 PM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: beaversmom

How is this legal?


13 posted on 02/15/2012 4:03:24 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: AnTiw1

Ohhhh, boy......if only.


14 posted on 02/15/2012 4:05:29 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: beaversmom

Does the choir sing Handel’s Alleluia during Christmastime?


15 posted on 02/15/2012 4:05:44 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Brilliant

If a Jewish person in the chorus wanted to sit out a Christmas carol because he didn’t believe what it was going to ask him to sing, nobody would complain about that. Really, why can’t this fellow sit this sicker “Zikr” out without repercussions?


16 posted on 02/15/2012 4:07:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: beaversmom

Good for this student...they would never allow a song with Jesus name in it....


17 posted on 02/15/2012 4:09:09 PM PST by goat granny
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To: beaversmom

Rahman is a Muslim. I didn’t read the story closely, but I suspect they’ve glossed over that fact and misled with the “Indian” appellation so that one might assume that he’s Hindu.


18 posted on 02/15/2012 4:10:32 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: goat granny

Answering you on this thread. The other was locked as a duplicate. It’s not your computer.


19 posted on 02/15/2012 4:11:48 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: SoothingDave

Just don’t allow Islam to be mixed with any other religion because it is not similar with any other main stream religions. Inch by inch by inch by inch. Stop this is it’s tracks - NOW!


20 posted on 02/15/2012 4:12:09 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: beaversmom

My wife and I moved to Grand Junction, CO about a year ago. GJ is in Mesa County on the western slope (about 250 miles west of Denver on I-70). This is a conservative county, certainly one of the most conservative in the state ... and one of the reasons we chose to move here ... not to mention the natural beauty & sweeping vistas that abound. Proud of this young man ... he states his reason well.


21 posted on 02/15/2012 4:17:02 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: Admin Moderator; goat granny
With all the dough you folks are asking, surely there ought to be a way of making that process more user-friendly. Some way to merge independent threads or make attempts to write to a locked one redirect over to the writable one. Or even the notice that used to pop up to the effect of "Thread locked, please see alternate link."
22 posted on 02/15/2012 4:17:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: BCW
Interesting ~ good way to get yourself killed too. The Taliban don't approve of music. Actually, music isn't high on anyone's list in Afghanistan.

The Music Director should be fired for endangering the students like that. Some crazy jihadi in the audience hearing that might have pulled his AK and killed everybody.

23 posted on 02/15/2012 4:19:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It doesn't sound like there are any repercussions. So far as I can make out from the article, he's not being punished. It's just that the newspapers wanted to cover the story.

Allah Rakha Rahman was born as A. S. Dileep Kumar. His mother was Muslim, his father was Hindu, and he was raised Hindu. After his father died the family had hard times and his mother turned to Sufism, Islamic mysticism. Kumar/Rahman was drawn to Islam himself and later converted and changed his name.

24 posted on 02/15/2012 4:20:23 PM PST by x
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To: BluH2o

Grand Junction is a nice area. If we had to move from the Denver area, I’m sure it would be a place we would consider. The Colorado National Monument rivals some of Utah’s scenery.


25 posted on 02/15/2012 4:20:59 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Digger

How if they were asked to do a more classic piece like Ketelbey’s “In A Persian Market” with its scene of beggars begging for “baksheesh” in the name of “Allah”? (Though that does not make more assertions about “Allah” than treating that as another appellation for God, as used in Arabic language Christian bibles.)


26 posted on 02/15/2012 4:21:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Then again, the article doesn’t say whether he quit on his own decision or whether he was told he couldn’t just sit out the song, so it’s possible there were repercussions.


27 posted on 02/15/2012 4:25:14 PM PST by x
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To: beaversmom

The song was chosen because of the rhythms, right? Then change or omit the lyric as Obama does when he recites the pledge.


28 posted on 02/15/2012 4:38:18 PM PST by a fool in paradise (If Obama brings troops home from Japan and Germany he can claim he won WWII finally as well as Iraq.)
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To: beaversmom
"The teacher consulted with students and asked each of them to review an online performance of the selection with their parents BEFORE making the decision to perform the piece," Kirtland said
Clearly this instructor anticipated controversy & should be reamed for this underhanded attempt at totally ignorant PC/MC brainwashing. Music is Haram حرام‎ in Islam. Fire this incompetent fool.
29 posted on 02/15/2012 4:39:20 PM PST by wtd
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To: BCW

Islamists believe they ARE another (superior) race. The lowly kufir is descended from pigs and monkeys and can be butchered and enslaved like cattle.

They don’t even want their daughters marrying converts to Islam. Not pure enough.


30 posted on 02/15/2012 4:41:14 PM PST by a fool in paradise (If Obama brings troops home from Japan and Germany he can claim he won WWII finally as well as Iraq.)
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To: BCW

Yeah, good for him, but the poor kid’s fought it alone and in vain from the sound of it and that’s just wrong. Where’s the support for brave and good people like him?? That’s how freedom’s voices get silenced. He had to retreat by dropping out and it’s not fair!


31 posted on 02/15/2012 4:52:22 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: beaversmom

I was going to say “pants on the ground”, but not so much..


32 posted on 02/15/2012 4:53:19 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Admin Moderator

Usually there is such a notice when “history” in red is by the headline it was not noted on that thread at the time...I always click history and you find out if it was a duplicate and has a link to the other thread..


33 posted on 02/15/2012 4:54:00 PM PST by goat granny
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To: StonyBurk

Look at the teachers - so many are Marxist, Progressive and anti-American. Where are all the parents??? WAKE UP. AMERICA - especially parents (and grandparents)!!!


34 posted on 02/15/2012 4:59:55 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: llandres
"Look at the teachers - so many are Marxist, Progressive and anti-American. Where are all the parents??? WAKE UP. AMERICA - especially parents (and grandparents)!!!"

The political folks are the same--nearly all of them--and quite dependent in various ways on government for their incomes/revenues/debt. Government is heading for default and allowing Iran and its friends to build nukes. Have fun. Enjoy the slide.


35 posted on 02/15/2012 5:28:34 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Admin Moderator; goat granny
With all the dough you folks are asking,...

All the dough? Have you bought a half gallon of milk lately? LMAO!

36 posted on 02/15/2012 6:04:14 PM PST by houeto (Mitt Romney - A Whiter Shade of FAIL)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
With all the dough????

Are you kidding me?

FR basically is free if you want it to be...

And I've never been asked "a bunch of dough"....either.

What do you give "HiTech RedNeck" to FR? You mind if I ask?

37 posted on 02/15/2012 6:09:37 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: beaversmom

For whatever reason, a kid drops out of choir and it makes the news?


38 posted on 02/15/2012 6:11:34 PM PST by elvis-lives
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To: elvis-lives

It’s not wise to display your lack of reading comprehension skills so soon after joining.


39 posted on 02/15/2012 6:30:30 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

At an upcoming concert, the choir is scheduled to sing an Irish folk song and an Christian song titled “Prayer of the Children,” in addition to the song by Rahman.

“The teacher consulted with students and asked each of them to review an online performance of the selection with their parents before making the decision to perform the piece,” Kirtland said, and members who object to the religious content of musical selections aren’t required to sing them.
_______________

Okay B_E, what am I supposed to be missing here.


40 posted on 02/15/2012 6:44:02 PM PST by elvis-lives
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To: beaversmom
"...The song was chosen because its rhythms and other qualities would provide an opportunity to exhibit the musical talent and skills of the group in competition, not because of its religious message or lyrics," Kirtland told FoxNews.com...'

Because there just aren't enough songs in existence that would accomplish that. /s

Bull cookies!

41 posted on 02/15/2012 6:49:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: muawiyah

Christians are going to have to learn to network and play social warfare in this country so that social Marxists are afraid to make them the brunt of diversity hate and disrespect.

They need to organize and go after the music teacher and principal big time and in a coordinated fashion until they are gone. They need to teach their children about cultural cleansing and tell them they are the targets and to speak out against the agression and to not cooperate. You don’t do it in religious terms; you do it over job performance in every way you can think to find fault and complain in hoards to the school committee. Year in and year out until they are gone. It’s called isolating the target and harassing until every Marxist understands it a bad thing to turn the community against you. You take over the school board.

Social marxists are trying to cleanse the culture all the way and make Chrisitans isolated and abused strangers in our own land. Christians who deny God, no matter their excuses for going along with these aggressive pigs, will be denied by God. That goes for their children as well. It’s not a joke. Social Marxism is serious soul crushing business. After they crush your soul, they will crush your bones.


42 posted on 02/15/2012 7:05:22 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: elvis-lives

The headline wasn’t over his quitting, it was over the reason for his quitting.


43 posted on 02/15/2012 7:16:49 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I guess that’s where I went wrong. Instead of stopping at the headline, I clicked the link and read the entire story.

If he was being threatened with a failing grade I would object. If he was being forced to sing against his will, that would be wrong. He was offered an opportunity to sing. He didn’t like the program so he decided not to sing. That’s that. Nothing to see here.


44 posted on 02/15/2012 7:34:16 PM PST by elvis-lives
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To: steve86
The young man, in rejecting dhimmitude (surrender to Islam) apparantly objected to THIS HORSE CRAP.
45 posted on 02/15/2012 7:44:15 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum is worth a good second look, my friends. Why is it the media and White House hate him so?)
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To: beaversmom

Was any of this kind of bull crap going on before 9/11?

Bin Laden and his muslim jihadis succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.


46 posted on 02/15/2012 7:46:58 PM PST by CaptainKrunch
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To: beaversmom

Got a better link? That brings us back to your post.


47 posted on 02/15/2012 7:51:44 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: beaversmom

separation of church and state is different with muslims?????


48 posted on 02/15/2012 7:53:16 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: elvis-lives
Nothing to see here.

LOL! You may be on the wrong site.

Conservatives can see a lot here.

49 posted on 02/15/2012 7:53:48 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yeah right.


50 posted on 02/15/2012 7:57:56 PM PST by elvis-lives
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